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[o Ventus]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Yes and no. I desribed how all these people act during romance scenes.
I was not serious in all of them but some of them, have this type of character development, which is sad and yes i consider Miranda to be one of them.

What is "this type" of character development?

In regards to Miranda, you only (poorly) described the culmination scene. There is a very minimum amount of characterization in the scene, so how is it a good example of her romance? Have you actually romanced her at all?

[fiendishchicken]

Without reading the OP, I'm going to assume that this thread exists to bash romances.

I will answer the question though:

I think the best romance is Male Shepard and Miranda, both from preference and in growth of the characters.

I think the worst romance is Jacob for growth in the story, and Tali.

[Argentoid]

Best: Liara / Miranda

Worst: Ashley

[jijeebo]

The Good: Kaidan, Steve, Jack, Liara

The Bad: Allers, Jacob

The Ugly: Morinth

[Tommyspa]

Best: Tali/Miranda
Worst: Ashely/Jacob

[Eshaye]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Without reading the OP, I'm going to assume that this thread exists to bash romances.

I will answer the question though:

I think the best romance is Male Shepard and Miranda, both from preference and in growth of the characters.

I think the worst romance is Jacob for growth in the story, and Tali.

Seriously WTF? This examplies what is fundamentally wrong with forums and online communities today, people do not take the 2 mins required to actually read an OP BEFORE commenting on it. Why even go on forums at all if you can't bring yourself to read? MUST you be heard whithout having the decency to listen (read) to others? 

<_< *grumpy pants* 
 Excuse the off topicness, I had to say that. 

Though I could also add on topic, that it doesn't get worse then Jacob, which is sad considering I actually liked Jacob as a character, his romance was not well handled at all. 

Modifié par Eshaye, 16 février 2013 - 11:48 .

[Blooddrunk1004]

o Ventus wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Yes and no. I desribed how all these people act during romance scenes.
I was not serious in all of them but some of them, have this type of character development, which is sad and yes i consider Miranda to be one of them.

What is "this type" of character development?

In regards to Miranda, you only (poorly) described the culmination scene. There is a very minimum amount of characterization in the scene, so how is it a good example of her romance? Have you actually romanced her at all?

Yes i did. Before you do her loyatly mission everything is this:
- "i want to put a control chip into your brain"
- "TIM is right about everything"
- " your decisions are wrong"
- " no talking, we must act as professionals"
- "im not looking for friends"

After loyalty mission:
- screw TIM
- let's be friends
- revealing everything about myself and my past
- sex time

That's character development for Miranda right there and yes i heard  her every line and i didn't miss anything.
The sudden change of heart is just stupid. Not to mention her whole character was represented as a sex tool, especially considering she is wearing latex space suit and every time i speak to her camera focuses on her ass or anywhere else but not her face. But this conversation is going off-topic so i will stop right here.

People just don't notice that, but Miranda's romance arc is one the same level as Jacob "raises flameshield".
She is not in love she just want to ****.
The only difference is that people like Miranda because she is voiced by Strahovski and because she doesn't dump you.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 17 février 2013 - 12:07 .

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

 Best:Liara,Tali,Kaidan 
Worst:Miranda,Ashley,STEEEEEVE

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 17 février 2013 - 12:10 .

[o Ventus]

Wow. Judging by how hilariously incorrect your assessment of Miranda's romance is and her characterization, I'm going to assume you're trolling.

I needed that laugh. Thank you my good man.

[Sc2mashimaro]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Yes i did. Before you do her loyatly mission everything is this:
- "i want to put a control chip into your brain"
- "TIM is right about everything"
- " your decisions are wrong"
- " no talking, we must act as professionals"
- "im not looking for friends"

After loyalty mission:
- screw TIM
- let's be friends
- revealing everything about myself and my past
- sex time

Garrus's plot development in Mass Effect 2 is this:

- I killed a lot of mercs
- I got my whole team killed
- I remember we used to do cool stuff together
- Help me kill me ex-co-worker

Garrus after loyalty mission

-You should upgrade the guns
- I need to calibrate the guns

Look he has no plot development!

<_< You can do this with anyone, it doesn't mean anything. Miranda's development is strong because she moves (for the player) from being percieved as cold and calculating to slowly showing who she is, and, if you romance her, that - behind her facade - she really cares about people and wants to care about Shepard. In ME3, her development is stunted because she doesn't move on from the "sister/daddy" plot line to show us something new and interesting about the character. More than most other chacters, an open "I love you" moment would mean a lot from her, because it shows her really letting her guard all the way down (she does this if she dies, I understand, but I would never let that happen). Other than that, she had plenty of material with her background at Cerberus and history of genetic engineering and personality traits that could have been used to great effect, even if they were not in the course of ME3. But in ME2, definitely a strong character.

In contrast, Jacob is a weak character. He is 1-dimensional. We see a situation with his father that promises to open up something new, but instead he seems to be over it (no signs that he is secretly broken up about it or anything) and still just says "cool guy" stuff without any substance or personality. Jacob is a blank slate with very little written on his character.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

o Ventus wrote...

Wow. Judging by how hilariously incorrect your assessment of Miranda's romance is and her characterization, I'm going to assume you're trolling.

I needed that laugh. Thank you my good man.

www.youtube.com/watch

[Walsh1980]

1. Liara. It is obvious she is the intended main romance, but I don't hold that against her. Her romance makes the most sense to me, given the personal interactions she has with Shep in ME1.

2. Tali. She's my favorite since ME1, and when ME2 came out, I didn't see that one coming. I thought she'd be more of the little sister type and that certain species were just too incompatible. Love conquers all I guess.

3. Garrus. Much like Tali's, didn't see it coming. Considering female Shep's limited options, Garrus's turns out the best imo.

I won't say any of the others are exactly bad, so I'll just name the most disappointing.

1. Jack. Probably my favorite of the ME2 romances. Getting through to the person inside all... that worked really well for me. I was really looking forward to seeing it go further, but it really fizzles out. At least Miranda gets more than 2 interactions.

2/3. Jacob and Thane. I don't mind that Thane dies, it was expected, and I find it pretty funny that Jacob couldn't wait for her. The problem with both of them happening is that a Female Shep's heterosexual relationship options are left down to 2, one of which isn't even exclusive to female play throughs anymore.

Modifié par Walsh1980, 17 février 2013 - 12:43 .

[Sc2mashimaro]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Wow. Judging by how hilariously incorrect your assessment of Miranda's romance is and her characterization, I'm going to assume you're trolling.

I needed that laugh. Thank you my good man.

www.youtube.com/watch

What has the internet done?

[nrobbiec]

I think there's something going on between Traynor and Allers

[Scorpion1O1]

Jack was great but I was disappointed with how it played out in Mass Effect 3

[kalasaurus]

Best: Garrus, with Kaidan as a close second

Worst: Jacob and Allers

[renishii]

best.....mrs Diana Shepard (formally miss Allers)....yep,we are married....i lived through the destruction of the citadel....i just loved the way she teased me after one of the interviews in my cabin,from then on i was hooked.

worst...none.....i didn't romance anyone in the series until Allers came along.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Best: (From "Personally" Experiencing the Game) Miranda

WORST: (Just by watching YouTube Videos) Diana Allers

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 17 février 2013 - 01:05 .

[Stalker]

Best: Miranda.
Probably the only female character who is on the same level as Shepard. Great tension and harmony there.

Worst: Tali.
No offense, I really like her as a character, but to me the romance couldn't get more awkward.
Oh, and Jacob/Allers. But that was just too obvious.

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 17 février 2013 - 01:15 .

[NovaBlastMarketing]

Favorite - Tie

Ashley - Awesome person in every way
Her ME3 makeover (not saying she wasn't already hot) and new outfits was one of the only things that Bioware got totally  right

Miranda - equally an awesome person in unique ways too bad Bioware totally screwed her in ME3

The romances in all three games were adequate they could have been so much more if Bioware had not treated them like an afterthought. Although ME3 was such a epic fail it put a stain on the entire series.


Top no desire to pursue or complete romance

Liara - no romantic connection at all but with more content than any other li in the game she is Bioware's favorite proven again by the fact they used her in the happy v day card  and the answer hq graphic

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 17 février 2013 - 01:42 .

[Diurdi]

ME1: Liara
ME2: Jack (if you haven't done this one, you really need to!)
ME3: Everything was crap. Maybe bromance with Anderson.

Modifié par Diurdi, 17 février 2013 - 01:41 .

[samgurl775]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...
Yes i did. Before you do her loyatly mission everything is this:
- "i want to put a control chip into your brain"
- "TIM is right about everything"
- " your decisions are wrong"
- " no talking, we must act as professionals"
- "im not looking for friends"

After loyalty mission:
- screw TIM
- let's be friends
- revealing everything about myself and my past
- sex time

Wut. If that's how you characterize her romance than I doubt you've ever actually played through it. The "before loyalty" description is only how she acts before Freedom's Progress. She opens up during your first talk back on the Normandy. And the only time she says anything close to "screw TIM" is if you destroy the Collector Base - she defends him and Cerberus quite strongly even after her loyalty mission.

[Battlebloodmage]

Best:
Kaidan
Garrus
Cortez
Worst:
Thane
Liara
Jacob

[nrobbiec]

Can I just say how much I love your avatar, Battlebloodmage

[Battlebloodmage]

nrobbiec wrote...

Can I just say how much I love your avatar, Battlebloodmage

Tell me something I didn't know. 

J/K, thanks. 

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 17 février 2013 - 02:29 .