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[Arbiter156]

the catalysts logic is still as screwed up as ever, the writing is as poor as it was before (efficitively telling me to disregard the entire series before so that i can make way for ERMAGERD GREEN LAZORS).

each of the endings violate one of the fundamental core themes of the series.

control; basically the freedom you fought for? nah dont matter now you're space reaper lord supreme. the right for civilization to choose its own path? nah just scare em with reapers if they don't do as they're told.

destroy: you fought for a civilization, that relys on the relays for travel, the codex sums it up "without them galactic civilization as we know it wouldn't exist". oh and you've just killed the geth (if you saved them or made peace) and edi, both of whom are examples which blow huge holes in the catalysts logic.

and as for synthesis;

it basically says "organics arent perfect so lets force perfection on them, tech = peace (step 4 profit?) and everyones happy". so what happens when the culture stagnates? is the galaxy just going to vegatate?

and not only that you built an alliance of diverse races and the game is specific that that diversity is extremely important in helping galatic civilisation overcome its obstacles.

dont matter now you've gene r*ped the entire galaxy so that everyone is the same now kthnxby.

and on a higher narrative level? it kills the entire universe; no advancement, no conflicts = no future for MEU.


and to top all of these options off each one is a tasty form of suicide. the breath scene is nothing but an easter egg (like halo legendary endings (except they actually continued)).

refuse? well sh*t we all died, goodbye.

at the end.....

"would you like another story?"

if thats how it will always end?... NO.

and all this doesnt even cover a 10th of my problems with the ending.

i fail to see how any dlc which doesn't adress the ending in some capacity can ensure a good future for the series which has been my all time favorite.

yes im quite mad.

bioware, i didnt ask for this, i doubt anyone asked for this, we asked for everything but this.

i'd be sad to see the end of shepard's journey in any event but i would want it to be a good, heartwarming and beautifull send off.... but not.... this...

[DeinonSlayer]

Sorry to hear that.

...that's all I've got.

[Mcfly616]

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[nrobbiec]

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[Wayning_Star]

I've never had that experience on playthrough or original/or EC'd. There must be something wrong with me...

[EnvyTB075]

*nods sagely*

Yep.

[davishepard]

Thanks for your feedback, but the endings are not changing. EC was the first and last time the endings were adressed. I thought this was painfully clear by now.

Now, I must only say that your visions of what Shepard-AI do in Control are just this: your pessimistic vision of the future, and is in no way portrayed like this in the game. You just chose to speculate the worse.

[sharkboy421]

Arbiter156 wrote...

each of the endings violate one of the fundamental core themes of the series.

That is my sentiment on them as well.  It sucks man .  But there is really nothing for it anymore.  Just pretend they don't exist?  Sorry wish I could tell you something more :/.

[Wayning_Star]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

*nods sagely*

Yep.

[I_Jedi]

Then WHY haven't you gone here yet:

http://social.biowar...ndex/14795358/1

You should get and install this mod ASAP.

[Eterna]

You feel violated by the ending to a videogame?

Alright then.

[clennon8]

After about 9-10 months of feeling pretty much the same way, I've become too exhausted to stay angry.

[Arbiter156]

davishepard wrote...

Thanks for your feedback, but the endings are not changing. EC was the first and last time the endings were adressed. I thought this was painfully clear by now.

Now, I must only say that your visions of what Shepard-AI do in Control are just this: your pessimistic vision of the future, and is in no way portrayed like this in the game. You just chose to speculate the worse.

so I did...

but if you had the choice between saving almost all of what you fought for (whether or not you survive) and controlling  the reapers as an immortal AI which one do you think most sane people would choose?

[Jenonax]

I'll probably go to the special hell for saying this, but I laughed my way through the EC.

Particularly the bit where theres about five seconds or so of the Normandy and Harbinger just staring each other down. I think its Harby's little smile that does it. Or the fact that the Normandy has Thannix Cannons and Harbinger has his lazer and neither of them fires for some unfathomable reason. I just sort of burst out laughing at that scene. Made the EC rather enjoyable actually.

And the Catalyst's logic just got worse and so I skipped even more merrily to Destroy.

It really didn't fix anything, but I did get a good laugh out of it, so I guess thats something.

[Tron Mega]

i find it funny when people try to convince themselves ME3 is worth another try.

good luck to those who make it past mars.

[Arbiter156]

I_Jedi wrote...

Then WHY haven't you gone here yet:

http://social.biowar...ndex/14795358/1

You should get and install this mod ASAP.

unfortunately the innate problem with the MEHEM is that first off I'm on Xbox, secondly it is still based on the broken idea that in order to save civilisation you must destroy it. I admire the effort put into it and its merrit. But ultimately it remains to me a proof of concept of building a much more sophisticated mod.

[H2Ape]

I just read Of Mice and Men again and I still feel just as angered and violated as the first time. George's logic is still as screwy as ever, telling me to disregard the 105 pages before so that he could make way for ERMAGERD SOMBER ENDING.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

It will never change man, sorry. I feel you and all, but you should pick up a good book and get into a different story.

[alsonamedbort]

Upset and angry maybe, but violated? Really?

[davishepard]

Arbiter156 wrote...

so I did...

but if you had the choice between saving almost all of what you fought for (whether or not you survive) and controlling  the reapers as an immortal AI which one do you think most sane people would choose?

It may sound strange, but I don't limit myself to "this choice is the only right one" when I reach the endings. I play as many Shepards (mostly female ones, I must admit), and I choose all of the options in various playthroughs, not just one. I find good and bad points in all the options, as well.

It's funny you trying to appeal to a "sane option". There's isn't one, as there isn't a insane one. All three options are valid, and end the Reaper threat.

I can imagine a future where one of my Shepards chose control, and took the place of the Catalyst. Somewhat and opposed to the Catalyst claim, she retained enough of her personality to make the same thing EDI made: put part of her consciousness in a robot body created by the Keepers according to her specifications. She continued to exist primarely on Citadel, but made a surprise to Liara by meeting her on Illium. In the beginning, Shepard kind of acted like she did in the epilogue, but the constant contact with her love made some of her old self "return". The end, though I could continue.

[devSin]

The ending hasn't changed, so I'm not sure why you'd expect your reaction of it to be different to any meaningful degree.

At this point, all you can do is keep it in mind, a cautionary tale for the next time BioWare tries to sell you something.

For sure, you definitely shouldn't be playing it anymore, at least not all the way to the end.

[spirosz]

Don't force yourself to try to enjoy it, if you really can't, then don't - there are many, many great games out there and still coming that you'll be able to enjoy and more importantly, feel positive about the experience.

[Auld Wulf]

@OP

Except that the Catalyst tells you that you can't force Synthesis? Except that it's established in the game's lore that Synthesis is optional per individual?

The amount of people who don't have "observation" as a personal skill, at all, is amazing.

[Ryuzetsu]

I get you, and understand fully. Played through three times now myself and each time still knowing the outcome I still destroy, every time. Blue equals space Stalin, Green/ Space Hitler. Feud Ex...er I mean Mass Effect was not supposed to flame out at the end, but shine brightly. Hard to believe it's been almost a year. Maybe we'll get lucky and Mrbtounge will make a new video something along the lines of, "Mass Effect 3- A year in Rage."

[spirosz]

Auld Wulf wrote...

@OP

Except that the Catalyst tells you that you can't force Synthesis? Except that it's established in the game's lore that Synthesis is optional per individual?

The amount of people who don't have "observation" as a personal skill, at all, is amazing.

Still going with the optional argument?