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TO BE BLUNT: i just played the ending again.... and i still feel upset, angered and violated as i did the first time.


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MattFini

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Disconnected ending is disconnected.

Suddenly we're told about a conflict we never see, and are supposed to care about.

It's really not hard to understand why a huge chunk of players felt alienated by that ending.

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abch4

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MattFini wrote...

Disconnected ending is disconnected.

Suddenly we're told about a conflict we never see, and are supposed to care about.

It's really not hard to understand why a huge chunk of players felt alienated by that ending.


Yup, made me feel like I got shot by 10 bazookas, ran over by a tank, skinned and dipped in lime, tied to a car and dragged down a gravel track. Fankz Biofascist

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I really hope bioware gets back on its feet after all this is done. I fear though that without addressing the ending issue the series will just die a slow horrible death.

I would love bioware to prove me wrong, but I'm not getting my hopes up which is sad because I really want to see bioware succeed.

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Commander Wookie wrote...
but it just so happens the Reapers purposefully never fully destroy the multiple iterations of designs that become the super weapon of their own destruction ending the cycles. 


"Purposefully" is headcanon. The Catalyst explicitly says the opposite is true; they tried to eradicate it but failed.

You're free to think he's lying about that, of course.

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Arbiter156 wrote...

I really hope bioware gets back on its feet after all this is done. I fear though that without addressing the ending issue the series will just die a slow horrible death.

I would love bioware to prove me wrong, but I'm not getting my hopes up which is sad because I really want to see bioware succeed.


Are you worried about Bioware in general, or ME in particular? Bio's dumped IPs before without any particular problem.

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Cainhurst Crow

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MattFini wrote...

Disconnected ending is disconnected.

Suddenly we're told about a conflict we never see, and are supposed to care about.

It's really not hard to understand why a huge chunk of players felt alienated by that ending.


I don't quite understand what you mean there.

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Isn't there a milk & kittens mod for just your problem OP?

Get thee to it!

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Mcfly616

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MattFini wrote...

Suddenly we're told about a conflict we never see, and are supposed to care about.

really.....what trilogy did you play?

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Legbiter wrote...

Isn't there a milk & kittens mod for just your problem OP?

Get thee to it!


MEHEM, google it

#210
Texhnolyze101

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I agree OP but try to use a better choice of words next time.

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Arbiter156

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AlanC9 wrote...

Arbiter156 wrote...

I really hope bioware gets back on its feet after all this is done. I fear though that without addressing the ending issue the series will just die a slow horrible death.

I would love bioware to prove me wrong, but I'm not getting my hopes up which is sad because I really want to see bioware succeed.


Are you worried about Bioware in general, or ME in particular? Bio's dumped IPs before without any particular problem.




both really but at the end of the day biowares well being is more important, it's just a shame the series is in this mess and it would be an even bigger shame for it to fail because of this as it is the way I see it thier best ever franchise.

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MattFini wrote...

Disconnected ending is disconnected.

Suddenly we're told about a conflict we never see, and are supposed to care about.

It's really not hard to understand why a huge chunk of players felt alienated by that ending.


Why was it important for us to see or play the initial conflict between the Proto-Reapers and Reapers? It would have added clutter at the last minute. Overwriting an already bloated ending would have been much worse.

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I don't think that many people disliked the ending THAT much. I think a few loud people did, and the rest is all groupthink/internet mob/people who don't want to think for themselves jumping on a bandwagon. Whatever you want to call it you would think that after more than a year of whining about it people would get bored and move on. Apparently not.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Disconnected ending is disconnected.

Suddenly we're told about a conflict we never see, and are supposed to care about.

It's really not hard to understand why a huge chunk of players felt alienated by that ending.


I don't quite understand what you mean there.

Yes, this is seriously confusing. I may be wrong, but the current war might the latest iteration of said conflict, hmm

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Hes' probably talking about the whole creator vs created strawman argument of the brat.

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LineHolder wrote...

Hes' probably talking about the whole creator vs created strawman argument of the brat.


OP a brat? Agreed

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Nah, StarBrat.

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Renmiri1

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SoloShepard wrote...

I don't think that many people disliked the ending THAT much. I think a few loud people did, and the rest is all groupthink/internet mob/people who don't want to think for themselves jumping on a bandwagon. Whatever you want to call it you would think that after more than a year of whining about it people would get bored and move on. Apparently not.


Attitudes like yours help me get angry all over again.

What you are basically saying is that 

a) I have no idea what I like in a game, I follow the press
Then why didn't I follow the 74 "perfect score" reviews" ?

b)People like me don't exist or are a insignificant part of gamers
Then why did Bioware delay their paid DLC to give a EC for free?

c) The bad ending is "over" and done
How can it be if day after day Bioware and idiots like you refuse to listen ?

Modifié par Renmiri1, 16 février 2013 - 04:35 .


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"Violation" seems perfectly applicable to what BW did with Mass Effect 3. We trusted them to create an awesome ending for the trilogy we were invested in. They chose to trash it, violating that trust.

The righteous indignation poses some of you are pulling to get in on the bully action are looking a little ragged.

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Jadebaby wrote...

I'm with you OP, and I'm still just as angry as I was 11 months ago.



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Seriously, it's been almost a year now.

There is an it somewhere that is begging to be gotten over.

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LineHolder wrote...

Hes' probably talking about the whole creator vs created strawman argument of the brat.


You mean the one that's the reason an entire race was reduced from billions of inhabitances to just 17 million?
Or the one that almosted ended the prothean cycle all together?
Or the one that happened before that even?

You know, the one that stems from our need to dick around with nature but never take responsibility for our meddling, IE krogan getting uplifted, having their entire society altered, and forced into conforming to standards they had never needed to meet before, all thanks to the salarians. Or how the protheans forced the rachni into becoming highly hostile killing machines through eugentic selective breeding? Or even other conflict that's come about becasue people thought playing with forces they didn't fully understand was a good thing? Like a good 80% of all the conflicts we've seen play out.

Reason synthetics are so much more dangerous, in my mind, is their distinct advantages over organics, such as the ability to replenish their numbers in a matter of hours instead of years, their ability to communicate at near instant speeds, their not being held back by social weaknesses at all, that sort of thing.

That's all me though, and my interpretation that the creator/created conflict streches throughout all of history, but that synthetic vs organics will be the last stage of that conflict before total anihilation occurs. So yeah, that's my mindset, if you don't like it than alright than, we can all agree to disagree on that point.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

The righteous indignation poses some of you are pulling to get in on the bully action are looking a little ragged.


Indeed. Amusement or even pity would be more appropriate.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

LineHolder wrote...

Hes' probably talking about the whole creator vs created strawman argument of the brat.


You mean the one that's the reason an entire race was reduced from billions of inhabitances to just 17 million?
Or the one that almosted ended the prothean cycle all together?
Or the one that happened before that even?

You know, the one that stems from our need to dick around with nature but never take responsibility for our meddling, IE krogan getting uplifted, having their entire society altered, and forced into conforming to standards they had never needed to meet before, all thanks to the salarians. Or how the protheans forced the rachni into becoming highly hostile killing machines through eugentic selective breeding? Or even other conflict that's come about becasue people thought playing with forces they didn't fully understand was a good thing? Like a good 80% of all the conflicts we've seen play out.

Reason synthetics are so much more dangerous, in my mind, is their distinct advantages over organics, such as the ability to replenish their numbers in a matter of hours instead of years, their ability to communicate at near instant speeds, their not being held back by social weaknesses at all, that sort of thing.

That's all me though, and my interpretation that the creator/created conflict streches throughout all of history, but that synthetic vs organics will be the last stage of that conflict before total anihilation occurs. So yeah, that's my mindset, if you don't like it than alright than, we can all agree to disagree on that point.


Cool story brah.

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You know, there are a lot of video games out there which have crappy endings. Deus Ex 3 was also very crappy.