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****Edited title due to suggestion****

I've been reading around the forums for a good while now and been in with the odd post and have recently been reading about the differing views on each ending.  

I've read some really good arguments for each of the endings and why people have picked them which have made me think about them all in a different light to how I interpreted them.

However, there are a couple of people on here who feel the need to say that their ending is best and rather than say why, they feel the need to denigrate people who picked a different ending, calling them muderers, rapists, stupid or any other number of unpleasant terms.

Let's be honest, at the end of the day, everyone will have a different take on each ending and how it works out and have their own reasons for it.

What I'd like to do here is open up the discussion for each ending:
Why did you pick it? 
How did you see it working out past the slides?
What happened within the game that influenced your choice?
Why didn't you go for the other endings?

Please keep the discussion civil and reasoned, let's keep the bad writing stuff out of here and also please don't attempt to belittle others who did not agree with you, whether overtly or in a passive agressive manner.

Cheers!

Modifié par Obitim, 15 février 2013 - 11:15 .


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I agree with your outlook...

But cue the sarcastic ending hatred and whining: (hope you're prepared)

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Biotic Sage wrote...

I agree with your outlook...

But cue the sarcastic ending hatred and whining: (hope you're prepared)


I've been on here long enough to know a few may come out of the woodwork, that's why I've put the comment on the bottom!

Cheers for the support though!  it is much appreciated!

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I would like to say I am thankfully not one of those people. While I choose Destroy, I do love hearing about other players choice in the final part of the game and there reasons for their choice.

IMO there cannot be a right and wrong choice each player has their own opinions, canon and play style, so their interpretations of the game will either be similar to others or differ greatly.

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Everything after the confrontation with TIM is arbitrary and ridiculous and hence all the endings are meaningless to me.

Fighting over which one is best and arguing philosophical ideals in them not only validates them, but it also makes for some tedious topics. But there is a lot of comedy potential when the great thinkers of our time postulate their theories on themes and symbolism.

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It's the fact that the choices themselves are so controversial and none of them are clear-cut better than the others that leads to the fighting. It's like people who argue over political parties or video game consoles: they can only have one so they feel the need to justfiy making the right choice to themselves. Or it could just be bitterness and resentment over the endings themselves, but that just makes people look like whining babies.

It's not exclusively the ending choices - the geth/quarian dilemna sparks similar passionate discussion. As for myself, I've picked all three of the endings at least once in various playthroughs and I personally prefer Control. I was very happy with the Extended Cut version of that since it validated everything I had been saying about it - the Reapers fix the mass relays, clear up the damage, and nobody else has to die. Yes, you do end up doing what the Illusive Man said, but he's dead so who cares what he thinks?

I like the outcome of Synthesis, but it still feels ethically questionable to go ahead with. I would like Destroy a lot more if I hadn't become so attached to EDI and Legion. There's a lot of food for thought that comes out of this stuff.

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I picked destroy.

Why did you pick it?  Because it made sense and the explination was clear.

How did you see it working out past the slides?  I didnt, we dont have enough information to extrapolate what happens after the fact, which is another reason I picked destroy.  Plus the MEU isnt "mine" and I would prefer the setting to continue.

What happened within the game that influenced your choice?  Nothing specifically.  I didnt go into the game expecting a giant beam to solve all our problems, but that is what we got, so I made due.

Why didn't you go for the other endings?  They were horribly explained or expounded upon with what they supposedly did, and they were more...in-depth in terms of the effects they could or could not have.  When my choices are a coherent explination vs explinations hidiing behind alagory, when the fate of the galaxy is at stake, I go with the one with the most rational and explained choice.

Modifié par Meltemph, 15 février 2013 - 10:23 .


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Immediately after ME3, there was a lot of bitterness and resentment, primarily directed at Bioware, but a lot of it got thrown at anyone who disagreed with anyone else. That bitterness has lessened somewhat, but it's still here, which is why we've still got major arguements between the endings.


What I'd like to do here is open up the discussion for each ending: 

Let's see... I picked Control

Why did you pick it? 

Primarily to save the Geth (and the fragile peace with the Quarians). I also like the feel of the ending - there's a lot of potential for soul-searching, character development and questions of identity regaarding the Shep-AI, and I like  that. I like the idea of my Shepard struggling with too much power.

How did you see it working out past the slides?
I'll include 'during' too:

Shepard's initial plan was to take the Reapers and leave. Unfortunately, the Crucible wave damaged the Mass Relays, so instead he stayed around to repair them. During this repair period, on more than one occasion he directed the Reapers to protect vulnerable refugee or trader ships from pirates or slavers that were taking advantage of the Post-War-Chaos. It was from this that the EC narration idea of Guardianship came from.

The Shep-AI did eventually realise that the galaxy would never accept the Reapers as guardians (after a minor confrontation with the Alliance fleets - no casualties, but shots were fired). He also realised that some of the Reapers were struggling against his control - albeit not enough to escape. Harbinger was chief among these 'rebel' Reapers. So Shepard came to the conclusion that the best solution for everyone was to leave the galaxy and never return. There would be future confrontations between the Shep-AI, Harbinger, and the Leviathans, but the races of the galaxy would never hear of these events.
Meanwhile, the galasy was left in confusion over what exactly the Crucible had done. Shepard never revealed himself, and was presumed dead, whereas the Reapers had suddenly begun acting differently.
Nine months after the end of the war, Ashley Williams gave birth to baby girl: Cassandra Shepard. And remnants of Cerberus would soon threaten the fragile galactic peace, combined with a play by the Leviathans to take over the Council...

What happened within the game that influenced your choice?

Uh... primarily the Geth/Quarian peace. I wasn't willing to sacrifice that. Otherwise, I also liked that you've got the most freedom post-Control to headcanon whatever comes next...

Why didn't you go for the other endings?

Synthesis was a no on moral grounds - I do not have the right to make a decision that big. If Synthesis will happen, then let the galaxy get there on its own (in fact, by my headcanon, from co-operation between the Geth and the rest of the galaxy, helped by a young Cassandra Shepard, the galaxy does begin heading towards its own version of Synthesis).

Destroy... I'll admit, it was tempting. The Reapers are a massive threat, and Control is, inevitably, a gamble. In reality, I genuinely don't know which out of Control and Destroy I would pick. However, Mass Effect is a story, not reality, and I like the feel of the post-Control-verse more than post-Destroy.

Modifié par JasonShepard, 15 février 2013 - 10:05 .


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LineHolder wrote...

Everything after the confrontation with TIM is arbitrary and ridiculous and hence all the endings are meaningless to me.

Fighting over which one is best and arguing philosophical ideals in them not only validates them, but it also makes for some tedious topics. But there is a lot of comedy potential when the great thinkers of our time postulate their theories on themes and symbolism.


Well, if you feel that way then don;t feel the need to comment, the thread isn;t aimed at you, laters

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Destroy

Why did you pick it? Because reapers have to be destroyed, the logic of the catalyst is wrong, dangerous, stupid (imo), he's a war criminal, and I am very sad that synthetics are collateral victims. Obviously, considering that Shepard could survive is a plus. But I think that all solutions proposed are bad.

How did you see it working out past the slides? Speculation only, and imagination. Shep will do the necessary to be sure that organics won't repeat the same mistake... or won't create a new catalyst.

What happened within the game that influenced your choice? All the events within ME1, 2 and 3 (Eden Prime, Sovereign, how the human reaper has been built, zombis and other horrors which were before organic life, sacrifice of my team... If I dont destroy reapers, Kaidan, Thane, Mordin and co would be dead for nothing)

Why didn't you go for the other endings? The other endings play the game of the catalyst (except reject) and don't have any sense if I consider the 3 games. But the ending I want to go should be the destruction of the reapers without destroying synthetic life. The catalyst has the power to do that and my Shepard could challenge the catalyst considering the peace geth-quarians. But he can't. So when I pick a solution, whatever, I accept the fact that the player -me- is not Shepard : the game is not a RPG anymore.

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Obitim wrote...
What I'd like to do here is open up the discussion for each ending:
Why did you pick it? 
How did you see it working out past the slides?
What happened within the game that influenced your choice?
Why didn't you go for the other endings?


Here are my answers:

Why did you pick it?

I picked Synthesis because it creates the most exotic and interesting future for the galaxy, because the idea of a hyper-advanced transapient civilization is irresistibly appealing to me and, on a thematic level, because I believe embracing the unknown instead of rejecting it is the only way into the future. 

How did you see it working out past the slides?

I'm still working on that. It's a kind of future hard to imagine in detail. It's easier to say how I don't see it: it's not an utopia, and it doesn't necessarily end evolution, though post-Synthesis civilization would have the means to do that. It's also a gradual move towards an ascension, where people, if they want, can change themselves to break cognitive barriers in order to gain an understanding that wasn't possible for them to gain before. It is a hyper-advanced, transapient future, where much technology is miniaturized to the point that you can have things like a backpack stardrive. Giant structures won't be needed any longer to travel between the stars, and in everyday life, technology will become so advanced that it becomes invisible in many places. My short epilogue Homecoming (uses a headcanon where Shepard comes back after Synthesis) illustrates this some more, with an imagery intentionally reminiscent of the trope "Crystal Spires and Togas"

Why didn't you go for the other endings?

Control: I am uncomfortable with one thematic aspect of Control: it sends the message that we are too immature to rule ourselves and need a godlike guiding entity. If the premise of immaturity is true, then Synthesis at least changes our nature in a fast-track to maturity, so we won't need this guiding entity. Nonetheless, Control is interesting enough that I pick it with some of my Shepards, and try to work around the message I don't like.

Destroy: I do not want to destroy the Reapers. I suspected what they were since ME1, I want to understand them and profit from their knowledge and technology, and I've always seen making the Reapers friendly as the ideal solution. I didn't think we would get such an option, but ME3's ending surprised me in that. Thematically, Destroy also represents an affirmation of the human condition, while I would aim to transform it.

@OP:
I think it would be better to change the title of this thread if you want more good answers.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 15 février 2013 - 10:45 .


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CONTROL

Why did you pick it? 
I had two options - control or destroy. Destroying the geth would mean my choice to sacrifice the quarians, of whom I was incredibly fond, was in vain. Killing the geth was not an option. And I firmly believed synthetic life and organic life were, despite the reapers' (and, I'd later learn, the leviathans') beliefs, able to co-exist.

How did you see it working out past the slides?
The geth could live, the reapers would be vanquished, and not only
could Shepard finally see a galaxy at peace, but she'd be able to defend
it from threat for millenia to come. The war ends, and the galaxy wins.

What happened within the game that influenced your choice?
The death of the quarians was a big one. That hurt. I love quarians. But I couldn't save them, and the geth were in the right. The quarians sealed their own fate, I'd have saved them both if they could, but I was determined that no more species were going to die today. And, honestly? My conversations with the Illusive Man helped, too. His cool pragmatism would've been admirable from a more responsible leader. As he says in the Horsehead Nebula - we could've destroyed Eva Coré's body, but we chose instead to control it. His logic was faultless. Just because he's not trustworthy it doesn't mean he's always wrong.

Why didn't you go for the other endings?
I played my first Shepard making the same decisions I'd have made, and I was never fighting to kill things. I was fighting to preserve lives. I disagreed with the reapers' philosophies, and I disagreed with their modus operandi, but I was never going to destroy them if there was a better solution. More selfishly, if I'd destroyed the geth, Shepard couldn't survive. This way she still gets to keep watch over her beloved galaxy - albeit in a millions-of-cyborg-cuttlefish type form.

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Why did you pick it? 

I pick a different ending each time based on what I make that particular Shepard to be. Because Sheps life doesn't start on the run to Eden Prime (the backgorund choices show part of that) I tend to give him a set personality before i even begin. My last Shepard for example was a bit limp-wristed (for lack of a better phrase), and in my head he idolised Ash. He wasn't really strong enough for Control, and at the same time lacked the stones for Destroy, so he ran into the beam. Other playthroughs my Sheps have been domineering bastards, other times they've been the white knight in every sense of the word. Each time, they get a slightly different ending.

How did you see it working out past the slides?

Depends what was on the slides. I all playthroughs though, Zaeed becomes overlord of the universe.

What happened within the game that influenced your choice?

Not much to be honest, I tend to go into each playthrough with a 99% assurance of what I'll pick before I land boots on Eden Prime. I always have to stop and think with a smoke and a coffee before making that final choice.

Why didn't you go for the other endings?

Usually because I have a very good idea as to what I'm going to do from the moment i start playing.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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@OP:
I think it would be better to change the title of this thread if you want more good answers.


Cool, I'm open to suggestions! :)

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Toolbox 24 wrote...


How did you see it working out past the slides?

Depends what was on the slides. I all playthroughs though, Zaeed becomes overlord of the universe.


I really liked this!  Made me chuckle!

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Why did you pick it? Cause I'm not indoctrinated and the reapers and their overlords logic of 'the chaos of the cycles' and 'created will always rise above their creators' is flawed. Peace with turian and krogan. Peace with Geth and Quarian. Talking to leviathan. Reaper and catalyst logic is flawed. Must be destroyed.

How did you see it working out past the slides? Not good. None of the 'endings' choices are good. I loose EDI and the Geth. But I destroyed the Reapers and their non-existent now.. Plus, Shepard wakes up. It's a good thing

What happened within the game that influenced your choice? I played the previous games. Synthesis is proposed by Saren- he's kinda bad and kinda indoctrinated. Control was tried by the protheans, these protheans were indoctrinated. TIM also tried it. Guess what? He was indoctrinated. There's kinda a pattern here. Destroy is what EVERY single ally and friend of Shepard wants including the Geth. Legion's loyalty mission in ME2 showed that, through talking to other squad mates that rewriting (synthesis) the heretics is wrong. The dreams. The catalyst taking the avatar of the kid. Leviathan. Lots more but it's quite the list.

Why didn't you go for the other endings? Refuse you loose. As far as the other endings that let the reapers and reaper code exist. No thanks. Plus, I'm not indoctrinated.

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because all the endings suck, so people try to put down others to boost their own.

"mehem is the best, chuck out the rest."

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TurianRebel212 wrote...

Why did you pick it? Cause I'm not indoctrinated and the reapers and their overlords logic of 'the chaos of the cycles' and 'created will always rise above their creators' is flawed. Peace with turian and krogan. Peace with Geth and Quarian. Talking to leviathan. Reaper and catalyst logic is flawed. Must be destroyed.

How did you see it working out past the slides? Not good. None of the 'endings' choices are good. I loose EDI and the Geth. But I destroyed the Reapers and their non-existent now.. Plus, Shepard wakes up. It's a good thing

What happened within the game that influenced your choice? I played the previous games. Synthesis is proposed by Saren- he's kinda bad and kinda indoctrinated. Control was tried by the protheans, these protheans were indoctrinated. TIM also tried it. Guess what? He was indoctrinated. There's kinda a pattern here. Destroy is what EVERY single ally and friend of Shepard wants including the Geth. Legion's loyalty mission in ME2 showed that, through talking to other squad mates that rewriting (synthesis) the heretics is wrong. The dreams. The catalyst taking the avatar of the kid. Leviathan. Lots more but it's quite the list.

Why didn't you go for the other endings? Refuse you loose. As far as the other endings that let the reapers and reaper code exist. No thanks. Plus, I'm not indoctrinated.


Did you read my original post at all?

Not sure if you mean is like this but certain parts come across like you're talking to idiots:
What happened within the game that influenced your choice? I played the previous games - so did I but had a different interpretation playing through them

Synthesis is proposed by Saren- he's kinda bad and kinda indoctrinated. - have a quick look at my other post here for a different take on that bit:
http://social.biowar...0434/1#15900728

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Jadebaby wrote...

because all the endings suck, so people try to put down others to boost their own.

"mehem is the best, chuck out the rest."


Cheers Jade, but I did ask to avoid the bad writing bit...

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Obitim wrote...

Why did you pick it? 
How did you see it working out past the slides?
What happened within the game that influenced your choice?
Why didn't you go for the other endings?

Cheers!


I CHOOSE MEHEM. BUT IF IT WERE NOT FOR THAT THIS IS HOW IT GOES DOWN.

Why did I pick the ending: (I will paraphrase an ending from Deus Ex Human Revolution since that is what Hudson was playing)

"Do I trust the galactic civilization to save itself? That's what keeps gnawing in the
back of my mind. The truth is, I don't know. After everything I've seen,
all the fighting, and the chaos around me. I only know what I want to
believe: somehow, we will triumph. These past few months, I faced many
life-threatening situations. I could have given up many times, but my
need to know the truth, to uncover the secrets that others were hiding,
and to survive, forced me to keep on going. Most of the time, I tried to
keep my values in mind, knowing my actions did not have to harm others.
I held on to my humanity, resisting the urge to abuse power or
resources in order to meet my goals. And in the end, I got the job done.
But does this mean I have the right to choose for everyone? No. Because
it isn't up to me.

"It wasn't up to The Illusive Man's method which would control this army of death machines. It isn't up to Anderson who would destroy not only the machines, but the technology upon which our civilization has come to depend upon. Nor is it up to this Intelligence who wishes to impose a New Galactic Order by rewriting the genetic code of all life down to the molecular level and impose this genetic code on synthetic life as well. The hubris of those who created this thing is unfathomable. Are these things not up to the people who are living in the galaxy rather than one person?

"Ordinary men, women, and synthetics will have to decide
together what course galactic civilization should take. The kind of
people who, time and time again, have picked and chosen the future in
highly practical ways - slowing change when it's negative, speeding it
up when it's good. Can they do it again? I don't know. But I do know I'm
not about to let anyone, including myself, stand in their way.

"Here,
The Illusive Man is dead, Anderson is dead, and the Intelligence is all
that remains. It is forcing me to make a choice for everyone. It has
presented me with three choices: that of The Illusive Man, that of
Anderson, and its own choice. It told me early on that my choice which I just described is not
acceptable: that of keeping our own form and working out our own
differences.

"At this point the only thing standing in the way of
ordinary people is the Intelligence. There is only one choice I can make
to remove that obstacle from the people and give them that chance to
prove themselves again. The Intelligence must be destroyed along with its death machines. In the process a terrible sacrifice must be made so that this never happens again. It is the least of the evils. It is either this or everyone dies, advanced organic life and synthetic life alike, and these cycles continue. (*shoots tube*)"

* Original Ending == Shepard is in a pile of rubble holding her breath for 11 months waiting for a rescue.

* EC == Shepard is in a pile of rubble holding her breath since July waiting for a rescue.

* The reapers corrupt, turn people into grey goo, take loved ones away, and turn people into monsters. They've been doing this for over a billion years. They need die.

* All other endings leave the reapers around. The Geth never survived past Rannoch. I watched the other endings on Youtube.

Control: I saw Shepard die and the Intelligence absorb her mind. It doesn't mean that Shepard is going to be able to fly the Reapers into the sun. Shepard loses her humanity, her morals, she becomes a cold, logical machine with Shepard's value system. She has a problem: preserve organic life at all costs. It is her turn to find a solution. I see nothing good coming out of this long term.

Synthesis: Imposes a full rewrite on every living creature in the galaxy without their permission. They did not ask for this. Eventually, although synthesis advocates seem to gloss over this, natural stellar evolution will create new organic life, and eventually new intelligent organic life. Perhaps later advanced organic life. When they discover space travel and create synthetics, what will happen then? The reapers and the Intelligence are still around. Eventually the star systems with the older synthesized life will no longer support them. What will happen say in 100,000,000 years. Synthesis is yet another short term solution in the big picture. I see nothing good coming out of this in the long term.

Destroy: They had to go and taint it with destroying the Geth, EDI, and all other synthetics. Do not forget the race that uploaded themselves into a VI (I don't know if this would be affected since it is not reaper tech and ship VIs do not seem to be affected since they still fly). Tainting it with destroying the Geth makes this another Intelligence choice rather than an outside choice. It indicates that the Crucible might be designed by the Intelligence itself ("You would not know them and there isn't time to explain." = "I had one of my minions come up with the design."). This ending sucks, too.

* I do not self-sacrifice at the end of games.

So there you have it. MEHEM is the only one to use now.

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There's a vile cancer at the heart of the endings called the catalyst So why did i pick destroy. A) It is the only ending that is introduced prior to this atrocious plot device's introduction. A variant control is too but we are not allowed to support it. At least shooting the tube(boy that is stupid) might actually achieve destroy aim and is certainly better than doing nothing in refuse.
So i picked destroy and haven't finished again since EC playthrough.

Post slides i see a huge joint project springing up to understand and repair the relays.
Huge amount of resources will have to be gathered and unrest on worlds will have to be controlled.
Galactic council will have to expand to take on Quarians/Krogan etc. My Shep and his Miranda will form a group true to Cerberus's original mission statement, rather than TIM's skewed version.

Why didn't you go for the other endings?
If TIM control had have been an option one of my different Sheps(vicious renegade) would have taken him up on his solution. If synthesis was integrated into the narrative and with a proper proponent(maybe the geth) another Shep might have been interested in it despite reservations on making galactic chnages on that scale. While they are associated with the catalyst i will never pick them.

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Obitim wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

Why did you pick it? Cause I'm not indoctrinated and the reapers and their overlords logic of 'the chaos of the cycles' and 'created will always rise above their creators' is flawed. Peace with turian and krogan. Peace with Geth and Quarian. Talking to leviathan. Reaper and catalyst logic is flawed. Must be destroyed.

How did you see it working out past the slides? Not good. None of the 'endings' choices are good. I loose EDI and the Geth. But I destroyed the Reapers and their non-existent now.. Plus, Shepard wakes up. It's a good thing

What happened within the game that influenced your choice? I played the previous games. Synthesis is proposed by Saren- he's kinda bad and kinda indoctrinated. Control was tried by the protheans, these protheans were indoctrinated. TIM also tried it. Guess what? He was indoctrinated. There's kinda a pattern here. Destroy is what EVERY single ally and friend of Shepard wants including the Geth. Legion's loyalty mission in ME2 showed that, through talking to other squad mates that rewriting (synthesis) the heretics is wrong. The dreams. The catalyst taking the avatar of the kid. Leviathan. Lots more but it's quite the list.

Why didn't you go for the other endings? Refuse you loose. As far as the other endings that let the reapers and reaper code exist. No thanks. Plus, I'm not indoctrinated.


Did you read my original post at all?

Not sure if you mean is like this but certain parts come across like you're talking to idiots:
What happened within the game that influenced your choice? I played the previous games - so did I but had a different interpretation playing through them

Synthesis is proposed by Saren- he's kinda bad and kinda indoctrinated. - have a quick look at my other post here for a different take on that bit:
http://social.biowar...0434/1#15900728

It's my opinion and interpretation and justification of why I always will pick destory. You have your's, I have mine. To each their own. 

About Saren and synthesis, it's the exact same thing almost word for word what Saren say's to shep on the citadel in ME1 before the final fight with Saren and what the catalyst say's to shep in ME3 when talking about synthesis. 

Side point- control and synthesis endings sheps eyes turn to TIM and saren eyes and shep becomes husk like. But in destroy shep keeps shep's eyes intact. 








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Destroy pre and post EC (enjoyed Refuse though). I wish we could have avoided the super-weapon solution though.

1. Why did you pick it? 
Because I consider the Reapers to be the biggest troublemakers for 1 billion years. Since the cycles started the galaxy went in circles. No matter what the brat says, his solution(s) caused more infintely more damage than the hypothetical problem he was trying to solve. He and his pals represent the dangers of an absolute thinking, and a power that completely breaks the galactic balance.
The galaxy doesn't need an overseer. I fought the whole three games to preserve the difference, the right for every one to freely evolve the way they should, and the peaceful coexistence between species, organic or not.

2. How did you see it working out past the slides?

Not fond of slides. The aftermath of every choice (edit: except Refuse) should also have been represented a little less childish, imo.


3. What happened within the game that influenced your choice?

I didn't wait for Mass Effect to be set on freedom and self-determination. Genophage, Geth and heretics, dangers of indoctrination, the pathetic fails of trying to control the Reapers just gave me some more grist to my mill.

4. Why didn't you go for the other endings?
- Control is the paternalist solution. It also maintains the status-quo, i.e. the Reapers are still hanging around there and the whole galaxy is depending on the good will of Reapard. It solves nothing for me. I also told TIM that we're not ready for this kind of power and actually meant it.
- Synthesis is the radical solution and a shortcut. Organics and synthetics can't go along well? Let's make them all hybrids. Whether they want it or not, doesn't matter. Case closed. Not my taste.

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Picked Destroy.

I chose it because it is the only ending which gets rid of the Reapers, for good. I don't see the Reapers as "people", nor do I see any value in preserving them outside their technology. They are essentially robots constructed from puréed genetic material. There's no indication of anything left from the harvested species beside said material. Whatever is inside them died long ago.

Past the slides, I see the various species being confined to Earth for some time, quarians being an exception. The relays need to be repaired on both ends, so they will be there a while. Conflict may arise, but it will soon subside. Other than this, I see life returning more or less to the way it was before the Reapers arrived. In regards to Shepard, he reunites with Miranda.

In-game, there wasn't much that influenced my choice. The secondary codex entries and news clips did to a degree -- detailing how utterly brutal the Reapers were in their treatment of civilian.

I didn't go for other endings because I don't see them as viable solutions. As history is wont to prove, power corrupts those who wield it. An AI with Shepard's personality may actually be worse, because being the New Catalyst it is, it's possible that it may just use the Reapers on somebody who disagrees with the Shepardlyst's ideals. Synthesis just screams "bad idea" to me, disregarding the absurdity of the premise. Refusal is Shepard refusing to end the presented threat when he or she is given the opportunity, so that's off the table.

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cyrslash1974 wrote...

Destroy

Why did you pick it? Because reapers have to be destroyed, the logic of the catalyst is wrong, dangerous, stupid (imo), he's a war criminal, and I am very sad that synthetics are collateral victims. Obviously, considering that Shepard could survive is a plus. But I think that all solutions proposed are bad.

How did you see it working out past the slides? Speculation only, and imagination. Shep will do the necessary to be sure that organics won't repeat the same mistake... or won't create a new catalyst.

What happened within the game that influenced your choice? All the events within ME1, 2 and 3 (Eden Prime, Sovereign, how the human reaper has been built, zombis and other horrors which were before organic life, sacrifice of my team... If I dont destroy reapers, Kaidan, Thane, Mordin and co would be dead for nothing)

Why didn't you go for the other endings? The other endings play the game of the catalyst (except reject) and don't have any sense if I consider the 3 games. But the ending I want to go should be the destruction of the reapers without destroying synthetic life. The catalyst has the power to do that and my Shepard could challenge the catalyst considering the peace geth-quarians. But he can't. So when I pick a solution, whatever, I accept the fact that the player -me- is not Shepard : the game is not a RPG anymore.


Pick control and then fly the reaper forces into a sun. They're destroyed, Shepard can get a robo body and be immortal and the Geth and EDI are perfectly fine now :D