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My Insecure Feelings Towards "Best of the Best" Players (help)


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#76
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To reiterate the elitist manifesto:
- Score is meaningless
- N7 is especially meaningless
- Challenge points are meaningless

How to recognize the skill and attitude of a player:
N7 level:
N7 < 120 => noob. not promoted yet.
N7 = 120 => elite player. has never promoted and never will. Mocks those who do.
N7 > 120 => sad epeen fetishist. never plays a lvl 20 character.

Banners / challenge points:
Low CP, no banner => noob. Hasn't finished any challenges yet.
High CP, no banner => elite player. Only plays the most difficult, most elite kits, so has none of the aliens and weapons challenges, but probably has nomad and the 4 factions done 100 times each.
High CP, nice banner => sad epeen fetishist. All challenges done. Has done grinding challenges such as Combat Mastery several times.

The only true measure of a player is how many UR's they have unlocked.

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Don't worry about BotB. Neither I nor any of my friends with this ever kick or insult anyone for being anywhere from new to BotB or inbetween. The few people I've seen who do kicks are generally the people who don't really know what they are doing and are either insecure about whether they themselves have the skill to play without allies being great, or are just outright snobs who think more of themselves than they deserve. I remember long ago playing with someone who had the highest PC N7 rank and was one of the first people to attain BotB and finding out there was no competition at all...just laughing my head off over someone that had more fun than most. I can't even begin to tell you how much more enjoyable it is to join a game with a new guy or unskilled guy than it is to join a game with an elitist snob.

Modifié par .458, 15 février 2013 - 02:11 .


#78
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I used my BotB banner for about six games, then took it off.

You come across a lot of players without it who do the stupidest
things to outscore you. The bottom line is, everyone can have it
with an investment of TIME, not necessarily SKILL, and it's supposed
to be about FUN, not cawk stroking.

Do objectives, don't shoot possessed abominations in front of
squad mates, don't flamer from behind your squad mates, don't
try to hold the LZ for the entire extraction wave, medi-gel if a squad
mate can't get to you, don't be a shockwave spammer and you'd get
by in any game, methinks.

Modifié par ComicComet303, 15 février 2013 - 02:17 .


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July R. Legend wrote...

 And how do I stop it? 
: (


Get the Lone Wolf, it is actually imo a very suitable mesure of experience, it shows u kow the game, its mechanics and are cpable of soloing waves in a clutch if necessary.

Easiet way to get it is Solo Geth with a Kroguard or Geth Trooper

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TriniWarlord wrote...

July R. Legend wrote...

 And how do I stop it? 
: (


Get the Lone Wolf, it is actually imo a very suitable mesure of experience, it shows u kow the game, its mechanics and are cpable of soloing waves in a clutch if necessary.

Easiet way to get it is Solo Geth with a Kroguard or Geth Trooper


I really hope this is a troll post.

#81
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all those banners have really added to the epeen culture :P


i barely played for a half a year just to return to see all of this

Modifié par khazkhaz, 15 février 2013 - 02:18 .


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Only thing BotB banner shows is that you have time to spare.

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mykejm wrote...

TriniWarlord wrote...

July R. Legend wrote...

 And how do I stop it? 
: (


Get the Lone Wolf, it is actually imo a very suitable mesure of experience, it shows u kow the game, its mechanics and are cpable of soloing waves in a clutch if necessary.

Easiet way to get it is Solo Geth with a Kroguard or Geth Trooper


I really hope this is a troll post.


Obviously a troll post. Geth? Kroguard? You trying to get OP killed?

Everyone knows the cheesiest and easiest way of soloing gold is with a melee volus against Collectors on London.

Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 15 février 2013 - 02:17 .


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Jesus, just try playing the game. Even people with the banner just try to have fun.

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SavagelyEpic wrote...

Obviously a troll post. Geth? Kroguard? You trying to get OP killed?

Everyone knows the cheesiest and easiest way of soloing gold is with a melee volus against Collectors on London.


:)

Well, that wasn't the part I thought was trolling. It was the part suggesting that if you've got the Lonewolf banner (by doing Gold Solo the easiest way possible, no less) then you're by definition a good player.

Modifié par mykejm, 15 février 2013 - 02:20 .


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OP, think of it like this:

I've outscored every Best of the Best I've ever come across. And I did it without being a jackass.

You can do the same, I'm sure. Yeah, baby!

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I spent most of the last few months having no idea what any of the banners meant.

The only one I could see myself getting anytime soon was Dog of War, so I got it. I've been rocking it ever since, and couldn't really care less about which ones other people are using.

But I smile whenever I see freckle-face in the lobby. I never see the maleshep one anymore.

Really, not since the Femshep came out.

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DullahansXMark

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mykejm wrote...

TriniWarlord wrote...

July R. Legend wrote...

 And how do I stop it? 
: (


Get the Lone Wolf, it is actually imo a very suitable mesure of experience, it shows u kow the game, its mechanics and are cpable of soloing waves in a clutch if necessary.

Easiet way to get it is Solo Geth with a Kroguard or Geth Trooper


I really hope this is a troll post.


Edit: Never mind, that's what you meant.

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 15 février 2013 - 02:23 .


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TriniWarlord

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Mzzl wrote...

The only true measure of a player is how many UR's they have unlocked.


Not true as I've had  4Mill + drought and started buying more JEPs also I've met new players who throw money at the game and bought I dont know how many packs and have some maxed URs... heck they dont eve know a time when the missile launcher needed to be charged before it could be fired and saving some1 who got grabbed by a Banshee with a rocket was a true accomplishment

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tMc Tallgeese wrote...

Been in a few lobbies where everyone has the banner.


Awkward.

This is like when you go out with your friends and you realise that you're all wearing the same clothes. :pinched:

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Honestly, when I get in a lobby with a player who has BotB on, I’m happy, because I know for sure that at least one other person there has enough experience to extract on a difficulty higher than Silver.

With that being said, in my limited time playing with people with said banner (I do exclusively PUG on Xbox, so I rarely see these types of players), they’re not usually the best person on the team, or if they are, it’s because they’re the only one in the lobby rocking a X level UR and level IV ammo.

Regardless, I wouldn’t worry about your N7/Challenge points/banner/whatever, because they really don’t mean a whole lot. I generally top the scoreboard when I PUG, and my challenge points are in the mid 3000s, and my N7 is 570. I’m not saying I’m the greatest player in the world, but the point is, I’ve outscored players ranked wayyyyyyyy higher than me, because rankings only mean one thing: How long you’ve been playing.

In short: Don’t stress it; if you can play, it’ll show.

Modifié par Dark Tlaloc, 15 février 2013 - 02:26 .


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Twinkles DeVere wrote...

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

Been in a few lobbies where everyone has the banner.


Awkward.

This is like when you go out with your friends and you realise that you're all wearing the same clothes. :pinched:


That's cuz the mental hospital has a dress code.

:innocent:

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do you have fun when you play? if so, then don't worry.

it's a game. as such, it is supposed to be fun. if you're having fun playing, you're doing it right.

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OMG OP My ego is validated!!!!!!!1!!1!1

I feel you're a troll though XD You can get it if you put your time in.

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This is why I have no banner.

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Twinkles DeVere

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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Twinkles DeVere wrote...

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

Been in a few lobbies where everyone has the banner.


Awkward.

This is like when you go out with your friends and you realise that you're all wearing the same clothes. :pinched:


That's cuz the mental hospital has a dress code.

:innocent:


PJ's & slippers baby yeah =]

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Kuato Livezz wrote...

This is why I have no banner.

Why would the OP's insecurity bother you?

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DullahansXMark wrote...

mykejm wrote...

TriniWarlord wrote...

July R. Legend wrote...

 And how do I stop it? 
: (


Get the Lone Wolf, it is actually imo a very suitable mesure of experience, it shows u kow the game, its mechanics and are cpable of soloing waves in a clutch if necessary.

Easiet way to get it is Solo Geth with a Kroguard or Geth Trooper


I really hope this is a troll post.


Edit: Never mind, that's what you meant.


Well kroguard vs geth is the easiest for a gold solo in my experience.  I've mixed it up a bit and that one worked for me best. 

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July R. Legend wrote...

This problem goes beyond simple jealously. In fact, I don't even think it is jealously. I'm not upset when I see someone with Best of the Best & knowing that it isn't one I have. And the banner by itself also isn't what is causing my insecurity. It's seeing other people with the banner combined with knowing that you have to have a high skill level to obtain it. That means all of those people I saw with Best of the Best have a high skill level! Inside, I should be happy whenever I team up with someone on multiplayer who has Best of the Best banner because it also means teaming up with an ally that's really strong... but I'm not. I should have the feeling of comfort that everyone always wants in a teammate, to play with someone that knows what they're doing in the game.... but I don't. This is what has been haunting me since I found out about Best of the Best banner. I get tortured mentally and I'm unsure as to what I'm supposed to do... 

I don't want to feel this way... I don't want to feel like everyone who has high accomplishments will look down on me for having so little. It's a painful heartache that shouldn't hurt, and I shouldn't care about what other people think. Yet, it's still there. Is it normal to feel this way? What is it that's causing me to feel like this? And how do I stop it? 
: (

 
You are trying to cover up jealousy with admiration. Do not do that. Accept that you feel both, and do not try to replace one with the other.

When you say that guys with Best of the Best banner look down upon you - you simply do not know it. The fear of unknown is replaced here with insecurity from the past. The truth is that there are good and bad guys with BotB banner. Simply accept that you fear the unknown.

Also, some people are just better than others. There are people that are better than you at the moment, but also a lot that have even worse skills than you. Remember that nothing is constant. If you keep playing your skills will improve naturally. Those people that have BotB banner are just ahead of you in the journey. Do not overthink this. Cherish every moment that you have and enjoy the journey.

Modifié par vlight, 15 février 2013 - 02:40 .


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P51Mus7ang wrote...

I have had the BOTB banner for some time however I did not use it in random games for a few reasons, I was concerned it sent the wrong message,,,,I didn't want people to think I am a better than you player, that was my number one concern, from my side I was concerned if I wear this banner is someone in this random lobby going to simply leech to see what I can do.

When Femship came out, I decided tp hell with it, I owe a lot to the female kits in this game, I am Proud of Bryan at BioWare for making this happen, on his own time no less, that is dedication to fans and the game, I don't really care what randome may think or how they may act, I have always said I will play with anyone at least once and I do.

There are many that I run into sporting this banner and I do wonder how they obtained it, there are glitches that allow some to get Lone Wolf for example by being able to simply solo one wave, however that is not my problem, I worked for mine, I did it by the book and will soon have it completed for a second time.

I have said I mainly play with friends and that is true, however I started doing at least three gold pugs a day in January, my goal was to simply help players out as most pugs need help in many ways, I have made quite a few friends this way, showed them the ropes, introduced them to BSN and players from BSN, the goal was to help inprove the quality of their game experience, it doesn't always work but I do keep at it.

I have also run into a tremendous amount of BSN posters and lurkers, added some of them also if they wish.

Now in a gold lobby do I look down on a random, no I do not. People who run with me will tell you even when we bring in a random that has a setup that I feel will not cut it, I do not kick, we will in a kind way make suggestions over the mic but they are not obligated to change anything.

I believe the majority of randoms have their heart in the right place, so any little thing I can do, I will at least try.

This is the internet, we will run into all kinds.....take the negative ones with a grain of salt and hold your chin high.


Everytime you post Mus7ang, It reminds me why I enjoy playing with you.

OP, honestly players good enough to get a BOB banner are also smart enough not to look at challenge points or N7 points as a means of seeing how good a player is.  I personally look at their loadout and equipment usage.