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[Jadebaby]

Abraham_uk wrote...

 The next DLC:

I recon it will be 6 half hour co-operative missions involving the characters from multiplayer plus a few additions.
Some new weapons.


That's all.

No vehicles.
Very little actual story.
No decisions.
At best a couple of references to stuff that happened in single player campaign.
Won't expand, change, alter, improve the endings.

Every single thing you expect from this DLC is NOT going to happen.


However. If you're one of those people who feels that there should be more to multiplayer than just hoard mode, these new multiplayer missions might satisify you.

But don't expect more single player campaign.

*snipped*

This is the stupidest speculation and rationale i've seen for this next dlc, no offense.

BitBomb wrote...

I love nostalgia as much as the next guy but .......Mako??

Yes, the Mako.

Modifié par Jadebaby, 15 février 2013 - 08:52 .

[Kabooooom]

I don't know, I kind of agree with him in that we will we get almost nothing that people want from this dlc, but I do think it will have a story- probably on par with Leviathan would be my guess. I have very little faith that Bioware will send mass effect off with a bang instead of a sputter, but I hope they deliver.

Modifié par Kabooooom, 15 février 2013 - 08:47 .

[Jonata]

Abraham_uk wrote...

 The next DLC:

I recon it will be 6 half hour co-operative missions involving the characters from multiplayer plus a few additions.
Some new weapons.


That's all.

No vehicles.
Very little actual story.
No decisions.
At best a couple of references to stuff that happened in single player campaign.
Won't expand, change, alter, improve the endings.

Every single thing you expect from this DLC is NOT going to happen.


However. If you're one of those people who feels that there should be more to multiplayer than just hoard mode, these new multiplayer missions might satisify you.

But don't expect more single player campaign.

We had From Ashes (which was followed by fan rage)
We had Extended Cut (which was followed by fan rage)
We had Leviathan DLC (which was followed by fan rage)
We had Omega DLC (which was followed by fan rage)
We had weapon and alternate appearance packs (that few people care about)

So no! Hand on heart, there will be no more single player campaign related DLC for Mass Effect 3.
Hardcore fans are the individuals who are likely to purchasse single player DLC.
The hardcore fans are feeling angry and betrayed so I can guarantee Bioware WILL MAKE A FINANCIAL LOSS!

Woah hold on a sec dude. Where the hell did you get all those insights on the next DLC?

[Abraham_uk]

Robosexual wrote...
Thing is most people think "listening to feedback" = exactly what they want. 

Everybody messes up. Doesn't mean they're not listening.

Robosexual wrote... Some assumptions I'm going to make about that statement, the knowledge that Joker and Kaidan (and therefore most likely all your other ME3 crew) recorded lines, and the level of writers involved in it: 

I'm not sure what part those characters are going to make.
I'll assume it's a pretty small part. The next DLC is exclusively multiplayer.

Robosexual wrote...Lots of people complained about the combat in relation to story in Omega. I'm assuming there's going to be more story in relation to combat in this next DLC. 

I enjoyed Omega. Dumb fun action flic. It was exciting and enjoyable.
No. There won't be much story in the next DLC. It's combat orientated like in Omega.

Robosexual wrote... I also assume that this DLC will impact the story more. Not massively obviously, it's still DLC and I'm not even sure if Microsoft will allow them to do things like that, but maybe on the scale of something like a pre-ending Broken Steel or Arrival or LotSB.

It won't impact the story very much.
If the previous DLC's didn't affect the story very much, neither will this one.

Robosexual wrote...There you go. That would be listening to feedback for example, it's just likely that most people would ignore something like that, just like they ignored all the feedback Omega incorporated.

I don't want you to get the idea that I hate Mass Effect 3.
I love the game. I love all the DLC.
I love both single player and multiplayer.

I just want to temper down people's excitement levels by greatly lowering their expectations.
I'm tired and sick of all the whining about Mass Effect 3.
If you didn't like the game you'll hate this DLC.

This is an exclusively multiplayer DLC with some references to the single player campaign.

[Abraham_uk]

Jonata wrote...

Woah hold on a sec dude. Where the hell did you get all those insights on the next DLC?

Pure guessing!
I was under the impression that people loved to speculate here.
So I decided to provide some speculation of my own.

I bet you [nothing because I'm poor] that I'm right.

[Kabooooom]

There are likely two dlcs- one MP and one SP that will be released near each other. It won't be 'exclusively multiplayer', although after this SP dlc we will get no more SP dlc. I will literally bet someone money that we will not.

[Clayless]

Abraham, you don't need to get my expectations down, I enjoyed all the DLC and ME3 and I'm looking forward to this DLC. Can't wait for news on it.

[RedCaesar97]

Kabooooom wrote...
...although after this SP dlc we will get no more SP dlc. I will literally bet someone money that we will not.

I will take you up on that bet. I figure we should be good for at least one more weapons pack or another alternate appearance pack.

[JamesFaith]

liggy002 wrote...
3.  You're Bioware and you know that a lot of your fans love this character.... it makes absolutely no sense to me that they wouldn't use him again.   Also, they never flat out denied using that character.  They denied  more ending DLC so why wouldn't they deny using Harbinger if they weren't going to use him again.

If so much people love this character where is some long active Harbinger thread with hunderds posts on BSN?

All endings have one, IT had one, Puzzle theory has one. Many threads are active months. But Harbinger threads are dying after few days and most of them are started by few same persons, you included.

So if I was BW and looked on BSN to check Harbinger popularity, it would look just like obsession of few people to me, not super popular character.

Modifié par JamesFaith, 15 février 2013 - 09:08 .

[liggy002]

JamesFaith wrote...

liggy002 wrote...
3.  You're Bioware and you know that a lot of your fans love this character.... it makes absolutely no sense to me that they wouldn't use him again.   Also, they never flat out denied using that character.  They denied  more ending DLC so why wouldn't they deny using Harbinger if they weren't going to use him again.

If so much people love this character where is some long active Harbinger thread with hunderds posts on BSN?

All endings have one, IT had one, Puzzle theory has one. Many threads are active months. But Harbinger threads are dying after few days and most of them are started by few same persons, you included.

So if I was BW and looked on BSN to check Harbinger popularity, it would look just like obsession of few people to me, not super popular character.

Let me ask yet another question... if nobody gave a damn about him, why would they even add him in the SP campaign at all?  Why reference him in the campaign?  Why add a close up scene with him in the extended cut if people did not ask for it?

  Or, better yet, why use him to market one of your multiplayer DLCs if he was not a major selling point?  All of those threads do not instantly die out.

Modifié par liggy002, 15 février 2013 - 09:11 .

[Mcfly616]

BitBomb wrote...

I love nostalgia as much as the next guy but .......Mako??

blows the hammerhead out of the water

[tanisha__unknown]

liggy002 wrote...

   A lot of people tell me not to get my hopes up about this latest DLC and I agree that I'm not going to get my hopes up.  However, you should bear in mind that you could very well be wrong about this latest DLC and what it has to offer.  Even Priestly, if you believe what he says, tells us that the DLC has grown by taking fan feed back into account.

I am not aware that he ever said that. Could you provide me with a link? I mean, I am a huge fan of more content and am ready to pay a higher price, but after all the DLC size limit is 2 GB (from xbox live, if I am right, I am no expert on consoles. This limits stuff that demands a lot of disk space, like cinematographies. More boomboom is  in there, since the files with AI enemies are essentially there and you 'just' need new maps.

 

If that's anything to go by then perhaps we will see the Mako again.  Perhaps Harbinger and the Collectors will return and we will see more meaningful choices with a few more ME2 squad mate appearences.  And who knows...maybe somewhere down the line they will re do priority:Earth or even Mass Effect 3 itself.

I would love to see that, but I have my doubts. Except for the ending sequence they never changed anything totally and that happened after a massive ****storm on the forums.

  Why don't you flush out your negativity and think positive for once?  Perhaps with Leviathan and Omega they already had that DLC planned out and so there was no time to address the feedback but now with this DLC they do.

I am not pessimistic, I am realistic. Omega was a pretty sure thing, Leviathan was probably planned and got canned for a while to make EC, you could be right, then again they said they had roughly a year of content planned ahead, which includes this DLC.

 

  I know I'm likely to see responses such as "Don't get your hopes up" or "Have you seen Leviathan and Omega?"  Well, have you considered asking yourself the question "What if I am wrong?"   Yes, I understand that they have hyped ME3 up and we were mislead into thinking the game was more than it is.  Still, I think that Bioware still understands the importance of fan feed back.

  It's just unfortunate that they are not doing anything else with the ending unless that is misinformation as well, but I don't think so.  Again, I'm not getting my hopes up, but I'm just saying that you could be wrong.   I do find it peculiar that they are keeping this DLC tightly under wraps and are mum about it.

  DLC for ME3 has been very good (from Ashes and Leviathan) or at least decent (Omega), so you needn't worry that it is going to suck. But don't get your hopes up[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie].

[Iakus]

Mcfly616 wrote...

BitBomb wrote...

I love nostalgia as much as the next guy but .......Mako??

blows the hammerhead out of the water

In every sense of the phrase.

[JamesFaith]

liggy002 wrote...

Let me ask yet another question... if nobody gave a damn about him, why would they even add him in the SP campaign at all?  Why reference him in the campaign?  Why add a close up scene with him in the extended cut if people did not ask for it?

  Or, better yet, why use him to market one of your multiplayer DLCs if he was not a major selling point?  All of those threads do not instantly die out.

Because he was in prevous games? 
Or do you think that appearance of Gavin Archer and his close up scene was results of his great popularity? Or Balak? Or Din Corlack?

And why they used his voice in MP DLC? 
Maybe just because his voice was connected with Collectors, the main feature of this DLC?

You are seeing too much in it. 

[frostajulie]

OP I come to this forum daily in THE HOPE that I AM WRONG.

If a DLC could just make the ending right, make it fit within the framework of the preestablished narratives, make it feel as meaningful and uplifting as the end of any of biowares previous games I will be ecstatic to have been wrong and I will happily and joyfully plunk down cash on every one of their ME3 DLC's because regardless of their quality they are now part of ME3 and if the ending is fixed then I want the full ME3 experience.

So I return here hoping I am wrong and hoping we'll see war assets in action, get a successful refuse, maybe get a Harbinger boss fight.

I hope. But I won't hold my breath because I believed in this company once and they really f**ked up.

[sr2josh]

The DLC will purely involve gambling at the Quasar machines in Flux for Schells again.

[AlexMBrennan]

Even Priestly, if you believe what he says, tells us that the DLC has grown by taking fan feed back into account.

I don't, don't see why I should and "DLC has grown" is a meaningless statement to begin with.

However, you should bear in mind that you could very well be wrong about this latest DLC and what it has to offer

Yes. I could also win the lottery tomorrow but I won't hold my breath.

Why don't you flush out your negativity and think positive for once?

It's called "experience". When you you've burned your fingers a couple of times you learn to stop touching the red hot stove.

Have you asked yourself "What if I am wrong?"

Yes - I'd be pleasantly surprised. Beats wasting $20 on DLC I don't like.

[Iakus]

frostajulie wrote...

OP I come to this forum daily in THE HOPE that I AM WRONG.

If a DLC could just make the ending right, make it fit within the framework of the preestablished narratives, make it feel as meaningful and uplifting as the end of any of biowares previous games I will be ecstatic to have been wrong and I will happily and joyfully plunk down cash on every one of their ME3 DLC's because regardless of their quality they are now part of ME3 and if the ending is fixed then I want the full ME3 experience.

So I return here hoping I am wrong and hoping we'll see war assets in action, get a successful refuse, maybe get a Harbinger boss fight.

I hope. But I won't hold my breath because I believed in this company once and they really f**ked up.

Indeed.

It doesn't matter how much feedback gets implemented into the dlc if the endings still taste like ashes

[liggy002]

Makai81 wrote...

The DLC will purely involve gambling at the Quasar machines in Flux for Schells again.

Believe it or not, that would be fairly entertaining.  I enjoyed the side mission with Schells very much.

[Abraham_uk]

frostajulie wrote...

OP I come to this forum daily in THE HOPE that I AM WRONG.

If a DLC could just make the ending right, make it fit within the framework of the preestablished narratives, make it feel as meaningful and uplifting as the end of any of biowares previous games I will be ecstatic to have been wrong and I will happily and joyfully plunk down cash on every one of their ME3 DLC's because regardless of their quality they are now part of ME3 and if the ending is fixed then I want the full ME3 experience.

So I return here hoping I am wrong and hoping we'll see war assets in action, get a successful refuse, maybe get a Harbinger boss fight.

I hope. But I won't hold my breath because I believed in this company once and they really f**ked up.

Bioware said there will be no ending/post ending related DLC.
Extended Cut was that DLC.

Harbinger is finished. No more. Done and dusted.

Your probably annoyed with my rampant speculation on this thread. One could say "this hurts you".

But I'll make it fair.
If I'm wrong about so much as one of the things I've said, you have permission to make a "In your face victory dance" which can be posted on youtube for the whole world to see.

[Reth Shepherd]

iakus wrote...

frostajulie wrote...

OP I come to this forum daily in THE HOPE that I AM WRONG.

If a DLC could just make the ending right, make it fit within the framework of the preestablished narratives, make it feel as meaningful and uplifting as the end of any of biowares previous games I will be ecstatic to have been wrong and I will happily and joyfully plunk down cash on every one of their ME3 DLC's because regardless of their quality they are now part of ME3 and if the ending is fixed then I want the full ME3 experience.

So I return here hoping I am wrong and hoping we'll see war assets in action, get a successful refuse, maybe get a Harbinger boss fight.

I hope. But I won't hold my breath because I believed in this company once and they really f**ked up.

Indeed.

It doesn't matter how much feedback gets implemented into the dlc if the endings still taste like ashes

Pretty much those, though I'd like to change frostajulie's line, "regardless of their quality they are now part of ME3 and if the ending is fixed then I want the full ME3 experience" to "regardless of their quality, Bioware will have made an effort to make things right and I want to thank them."

[JamieCOTC]

Based on fan feedback, this is what I expect, possible interaction w/ ME2 squadmates (if only it is a sentence or two), another hub level on the Citadel (though possibly only for that mission), more romance (again, a sentence or two at best), and more MP weapons in SP. And that's about it. I don't expect Harbinger. I don't expect the auto-dialogue to go away (actually I expect that to be worse as Omega was chastised for lack of story and auto-dialogue is the only way they seem to be able to tell a story now). I don't expect to find out who built the Crucible and I certainly don't expect the endings to change in any way, not even as w/ Leviathan.

Yeah, BW is listening to fan feedback, but the thing they never say is that a lot of time the answer to that feedback is "no."

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 15 février 2013 - 09:55 .

[CynicalShep]

I'm pretty sure the new SP DLC will include more dialogue and interaction than pew pew. Call it logic (Leviathan was more popular than Omega and they called most story-writers and VAs for it), gut feeling or whatever you want to call it but I'm willing to bet you [something valuable] that I'm right.

[JamesFaith]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Yeah, BW is listening to fan feedback, but the thing they never say is that a lot of time the answer to that feedback is "no."

In fact Chris and Stan were repeating exactly this over and over again in many threads about "BW ignores fan's feedback".

[chemiclord]

frostajulie wrote...

OP I come to this forum daily in THE HOPE that I AM WRONG.

If a DLC could just make the ending right, make it fit within the framework of the preestablished narratives, make it feel as meaningful and uplifting as the end of any of biowares previous games I will be ecstatic to have been wrong and I will happily and joyfully plunk down cash on every one of their ME3 DLC's because regardless of their quality they are now part of ME3 and if the ending is fixed then I want the full ME3 experience.

So I return here hoping I am wrong and hoping we'll see war assets in action, get a successful refuse, maybe get a Harbinger boss fight.

I hope. But I won't hold my breath because I believed in this company once and they really f**ked up.

Here.  I'll save you and people like you time.

Just leave.  Save yourself the grief and the pain.  YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT.  EVER.

The line has already been drawn.  That you refuse to see that is not Bioware's problem anymore.