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[Tempest_]

Final Fantasy XIII was the first game of the series that I played.

I liked the story for the most part. I just don't think there is enough variation within the game itself to justify its length. I believe I stopped at the Gran Pulse chapter. I will return to it eventually but I just lost interest.

Though I did really like Sazh and never had a problem with Lightning.

[TheRealJayDee]

Orian Tabris wrote...

I really find it annoying how people don't like things that are different to what they are used to. It's hard not to think of them as racist or xenophobic.

Mother: Here's that all-time favourite pasta dish of yours. After all these years I decided to... enhance it a bit.
Me: Urm, well, it's... different. What exactly did you change? Definitely tastes pretty unusual...
Mother: Don't like it? Well, aren't you a little xenophobe again...!

Girlfriend: Hey look, I completely shaved my head and got a giant tattoo of the Pope in a diaper on my chest.
Me: Woah, ****... urm, I mean... okay?! You... I... why? I thought you... looked beautiful. This... I don't...
Girlfriend: Don't like it? Wow, you're always such a total racist!

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 16 février 2013 - 02:21 .

[ejoslin]

If I were to play FF7 today, I'd probably be unimpressed. However, in 1997, it was groundbreaking. It was the first video game I played that actually had me caught up in the story and caring about the characters. The story had twists to it, and Cloud was seriously flawed rather than just a great hero. When I stumbled across the hidden cutscene that explained what Zack did, I was completely blown away (not sure why that was so difficult to find). I even cried when Sepharoth killed who he killed -- and it was incredible watching Cloud struggle during that scene.

ETA: I think the proper term should be Gamerist.  Xenophobe and racist are just so, well, not applicable.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 16 février 2013 - 02:39 .

[Gatt9]

Skelter192 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...
I really find it annoying how people don't like things that are different to what they are used to. It's hard not to think of them as racist or xenophobic.

What the **** are you talking about?

Common response by a Japanophile when faced with a large number of people who regard some Japanese product as being of low quality.  It cannot possibly be that Japan made something less than perfect,  it must be that all of those people are racist!

[Eternal Phoenix]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

I really find it annoying how people don't like things that are different to what they are used to. It's hard not to think of them as racist or xenophobic.

Mother: Here's that all-time favourite pasta dish of yours. After all these years I decided to... enhance it a bit.
Me: Urm, well, it's... different. What exactly did you change? Definitely tastes pretty unusual...
Mother: Don't like it? Well, aren't you a little xenophobe again...!

Girlfriend: Hey look, I completely shaved my head and got a giant tattoo of the Pope in a diaper on my chest.
Me: Woah, ****... urm, I mean... okay?! You... I... why? I thought you... looked beautiful. This... I don't...
Girlfriend: Don't like it? Wow, you're always such a total racist!

Mate...

That's just racist and you should be ashamed of yourself you little xenophobe....

[The Hierophant]

Motomu Toriyama did well with the event planning, script, and character development of FFX but his work has been meh after he was promoted to lead director of the franchise.(luckily FF12 escaped his clutches, but Parasite Eve 3rd BD wasn't so lucky.)

[legion999]

Orian Tabris wrote...
I really find it annoying how people don't like things that are different to what they are used to. It's hard not to think of them as racist or xenophobic.

Get out.

[Seifer006]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Roflbox wrote...

Final Fantasy 13 is worse than Mass Effect 3!

Ah, you must be one of those people who think BioWare is ruined. I bet you also think Final Fantasy sucks from FFX and onwards (and probably think that FFVII is the best FF game).

I actually started playing Final Fantasy 13 again, for the second time (i.e. this is my thrid time) just two days ago. While it is shorter than most FF games, it's an awesome game. People are just idiots. FFXIII doesn't have the most interesting main characters overall, but they are memorable. Lightning is the most interesting protagonist in the FF series (way better than that pouncy Cloud - not that there's anything wrong with being a little Milhouse-esque). Rikku, Tidus, Balthier and Lightning are probably the most memorable Final Fantasy characters.

BTW, I reckon Sephiroth is overrated. Just because he is the only antagonist to actually kill a main character, doesn't mean he's any better than any other antagonists in the series.

I'll admit though, Square has promised a lot, and hasn't delivered much of the things people have been waiting patiently for (FFVsXIII and FFX HD). The quality of their games is nonetheless excellent.

Like I said, people are idiots (hence the link's complaintative writing).

P.S. They should have made FFXIII much bigger/longer, considering how long it takes to get round to all the tutorials and making Fang playable.

LMAO WOW

Everything I read from Orian Tabris represents the new gen of gamers. Also why you say from "FFX and on"????
FFX was made by SquareSOFT

secondly there's a Reason why Sephiroth is overrated and you're reason is so wrong and explodes with ignorance... it's obvious you have no clue why the classic FF series were far superior then the ones today.

You say "I'll admit though, Square has promised a lot, and hasn't delivered much of the things people have been waiting patiently"

yet you also say " The quality of their games is nonetheless excellent."

Then why would the President of SE would report this: www.develop-online.net/news/29862/Square-Enix-boss-worried-company-is-too-insular and classic Gamers like this guy make YT vids

you see I could go on and embarrass you, but I don't have anymore time to give you

Modifié par Seifer006, 17 février 2013 - 01:38 .

[Seifer006]

RedArmyShogun wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...
Square isn't the same as squareSOFT

I've know that for years.

same here man. it's why I posted that link and this thread

[Seifer006]

Lathrim wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...
You say "I'll admit though, Square has promised a lot, and hasn't delivered much of the things people have been waiting patiently" 

yet you also say " The quality of their games is nonetheless excellent."

Not delivering on their promises does not necessarily equal lack of quality. Flawed argument is flawed.

"flawed argument?" LOOOL

your logic is flawed.

Have you not read for the past oooohhhh since the days of FFXII that SE haven't delievered the same quality as the classic FF games? Yeah..........just that statement alone you need to meditate on

[ZEGABITES]

They have dragged the KH series out it's almost been ten years of spin-off games..

[Neoleviathan]

Yeah I was just thinking about that the other day, with the new system on the horizon... & the last real KH game was on the PS2. I remember believing KH3 would be the game I bought the PS3 for, now I just bought my PS3 & probably wont get the new one a half decade atleast.

Square has had some good games out. But I think they put KH3 off for far too long, & I haven't played a Final Fantasy game since ten that gave me that incredible epic feeling of pure awesome that the rest did. Liked twelve & thirteen enough. I didn't finish thirteen, I couldn't tell any of the characters apart really. So I was never really able to get some kindof emotional attachment to them. And I was creeped out by Lightning, when I see her I just see Cloud in drag... & that is something he has done before afterall.

[Orian Tabris]

Skelter192 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...
I really find it annoying how people don't like things that are different to what they are used to. It's hard not to think of them as racist or xenophobic.

What the **** are you talking about?

Not literally racist or xenophobic, just I see similarities to those. Just, if something is different to what people are used to, so it's like they are prejudice against those different things. I find it strange how people prefer older games, yet people prefer new technology.

Maybe I'm just too sensitive. xD

[Orian Tabris]

Quote the Raven wrote...

Final Fantasy XIII was the first game of the series that I played.

I liked the story for the most part. I just don't think there is enough variation within the game itself to justify its length. I believe I stopped at the Gran Pulse chapter. I will return to it eventually but I just lost interest.

Though I did really like Sazh and never had a problem with Lightning.

People newer to a series - they offer much more open opinions than those who have played older games.

[Chromie]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...
I really find it annoying how people don't like things that are different to what they are used to. It's hard not to think of them as racist or xenophobic.

What the **** are you talking about?

Not literally racist or xenophobic, just I see similarities to those. Just, if something is different to what people are used to, so it's like they are prejudice against those different things. I find it strange how people prefer older games, yet people prefer new technology.

Doesn't explain why people like Final Fantasy 12 then which I'd argue is the most different from all main FF games.

Orian Tabris wrote...
Maybe I'm just too sensitive. xD

I would say so. 

I don't like Final Fantasy 13 either and didn't care for FFX. FFXII is what made me buy a PS2 and I still play it on PCSX2.

Modifié par Skelter192, 17 février 2013 - 08:42 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Stop being a racist who hates JRPGs, Skelter.

[TEWR]

FFXIII had great characters and a story, but was far too linear. Even so, it doesn't top FFXII, which is in my personal view the best Final Fantasy out there in terms of story. In terms of characters, I couldn't say whether I liked X, XII, or XIII more.

Maybe they'd all be equal in the character regard. I dunno.

[TEWR]

Zanallen wrote...

For the people complaining about FFXIII being linear...Um, all of the FF games are linear. A couple have a choice or two in that you can choose not to recruit some optional characters, but the storylines have pretty much no variability. FFVI probably had the most "choice" out of any of the games in the series.

Linear in regards to level design, not story design.

FFXII, for instance, was not a linear game despite it having a linear story.

[Roflbox]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

For the people complaining about FFXIII being linear...Um, all of the FF games are linear. A couple have a choice or two in that you can choose not to recruit some optional characters, but the storylines have pretty much no variability. FFVI probably had the most "choice" out of any of the games in the series.

Linear in regards to level design, not story design.

FFXII, for instance, was not a linear game despite it having a linear story.

Just look at these maps and compare them to FFXIII.

[Dominus]

So, I read the article in the link. Avoiding the trap of "That Fantasy is better than This Fantasy!", I haven't been a big fan of the current-gen's take on Final Fantasy. Even if they're 'down', they're not out...for the moment. Let us hope it doesn't string along worsening sequels a la Sonic. FF Versus 13 looks promising, and it's hardly like I labelled a big fat "hate" on FF13. Furthermore, the article reminds me a great deal of gamers' bemoaning of BioWare's last 2 games. Taken from the article and edited:

This is not the Square BioWare that redefined and popularized an entire genre with a single release. This is not the Square BioWare that pumped out dozens of classic PlayStation RPGs year after year. This is not the Square BioWare that took creative risks during the PS2's PC's heyday, but backed every experiment with rock-solid gameplay and storytelling. No, today's Square Enix EAWare is almost unrecognizable; a facade of "excellence" that only masks ignorance. Where is Kingdom Hearts III Baldur's Gate III?

Modifié par DominusVita, 17 février 2013 - 01:09 .

[Seifer006]

Lathrim wrote...
I won't even start about the fact that you haven't adressed what I said at all.

???

who said I wanted too?

I posted the link didn't mean I came to argue with you lathrim. I don't argue with people who aren't going to see FACTS that the classic FF games are far superior then the **** SE putting out. If you want to argue, then use google, you can find a bunch of arguments and debates on FF series on which is better etc...