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Is DA3's Main Plot Going to be Only About Mages and Templars?


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Cerbrus operative

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So far all I'v heard about DA3 story that it is going to be about "saving the world from it self" and the mages and templars will be involved, is that it?

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It's going to be centred around the mage-templar conflict most likely, considering how DA2 ended in sort of a cliffhanger.

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Kenny Da Finn

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I highly doubt it. But nobody knows all we have is rumor and speculation.

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We don't know.

Other then the title and what various material (game novel comic) have alluded too we still do not have any idea.

Yes most likely the mages and templers will have a role whether its a major or sidebar is unknown.

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whaddy'a mean, "only"?

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The mage/templar conflict is a huge issue in and of itself, but I think it's safe to say that it will feature heavily in the game.

But we truly don't know anything for sure yet.

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From how it sounds it's about saving Thedas from itself. This is probably mostly about the conflict, but any other things that could be troublesome (The elves, for instance) will probably be brought up.

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I hope its about more than just that.

The Witcher (first one, not the second one, I haven't played that yet) is a good example of what I mean...there are just so many things happening in the storyline. I hope TW2 is the same way.

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I doubt it will be, though I expect it will be a focus.

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meh with all the cartoon movies (dragon age: Dawn of the Seeker) books and more, I see it being basically about this definitely. Even the title pretty much rings it out loud. But then, there could be more too it. I miss being the savior to be honest , the last game felt like I was one person in a mass of others that "Did their part" , Eh I don't know I play these games to do epic heroic things at least, that's for me.

PS. the movie wasn't bad ;) if you where wondering and I have a feeling it's almost a prelude or at least has relevant in the game. I mean it's all about blood mages etc, so stretch? don't know, it would seem to fit to the title of the game here.

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I think it will be like the Blight honestly, sort of the main reason we're doing what we're doing, but not really as important gameplay wise. I mean we participated in the battle of Ostagar and Battle of Denerim, but besides a few skirmishes we didn't really take part in the Blight. It was all about the Ferelden Civil War and the Armies Plot lines.

Besides the M/T War, I expect the Orlesian Civil War (Alistair if he is king says something, Asunder took place in Orlais and the two surveys fake or no mentions Orlais), something to do with the elves (see, concept art of that large field and aravels), a plot to do with the Grey Wardens, (Stroud and Alistair in DA2 mention something regarding Orlais) and if the survey leaks hold any water than some kind of investigatory mission.

That's just my thoughts anyway.

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I think everyone is going to be going batsh!t. Since the mage/templar conflict leads to borderline civil war, I wouldn't be surprised it the qunari attack, Tevinter attacks and everyone else is attacking each other. Basically I just see havok in Thedas future.

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Stories usually have sub-plots...So yeah, the main story will probably be the magevtemplar thing, but there should of course, if you look at the past Dragon Age games, a lot of side quests and sub plots.

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it should be "Mages, Dragons, and Templars, Oh My!!"

=)

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This was leaked in the survey

"The great nation of Orlais, the most powerful empire in Dragon Age, tears itself apart in civil war. The stout men and women of Ferelden struggle to recover and reclaim their nation from the horde of vile Darkspawn that lay waste to its lands a decade ago.  The Templar order has broken away, claiming the church has become too lax in policing the dangerous powers of the mages. The Mage circleshave rebelled, believing the Templars have become too strict, too zealous in their duties, and too quick to slaughter those who step out of line.

"The world of Dragon Age is one on the brink of collapse, and when a desperate gathering in the name of peace becomes the epicentre of a magical blast that decimates the Chantry's leadership, it becomes clear that someone or something is manipulating events to drive the world into chaos.

"From the ashes of that explosion, something new rises: The Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, it falls to you to build up your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten spaces, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the fabric of the world."

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Modifié par Liamv2, 16 février 2013 - 12:38 .


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There's a lot of foreshadowing in DA2, the books (although they are not 100% canon) etc. that no, the M/T war is not going to be the be all and end all of everything.

There's the Orlesian civil war, and maybe even Ferelden figures into it somehow (since Ferelden used to be part of Orlais, so I'd expect they want some payback/try to grab some land and expand their territory).

Then there's the Architect and Corypheus, so maybe there'll be some insight into the whole Blight/Maker business as well.

Also since the lyrium idol that drove Meredith insane was found from the Primeval Thaig, which we know pretty much nothing about, so possible ancent lore there concerning the dwarfs/time before Blights? I also remember someone theorised in the BSN ages ago how the Primeval Thaig might actally be the sunken ruins of Arlathan, which would be pretty awesome, particularly if it tied into DA3's plot about the world falling apart. Ancent elven gods/ghosts rising up to revenge on behalf of the elves? Awesome.

Then there is Kirkwall's Band of How Many? who were looking into the blood rituals and the weird architecture of the place and commented on how thin the Veil was around Kirkwall and then when you go and destroy the evil tomes you meet Xebenkeck, who is according to the codex entry one of the demons who taught magisters blood magic. Also one of the demons mentioned in the same codex entry is Gaxkang the Unbound who you can fight and kill in DA:O. This might tie into the M/T war somehow (ie. mages getting desperate and summoning one of the remaining demons, which will naturally not end well).

So there's plenty of stuff they can (and probably will) include, but the amount of lore the DA universe has they have enough stuff for several games, so I guess its impossible to guess what exactly they are going to pursue in addition to the Mage-Templar war and Orlais.

Modifié par MissOuJ, 16 février 2013 - 01:44 .


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Yup, I would say so ¬¬ If I knew I was playing from DA:O to Mages v Templars to Holy War

I think I would of just stopped at DA:O. Something about fighting holy wars DOES NOT sit well with ME AT ALL.

If... that indeed is where the game going, but come on INQUISITOR >_< INQUISTION. pppaaaaaahhhhhh

Maybe they *will* have something different, but so far just looking at the title makes me cringe thinking its gunna be a holy war >:T

stupid anders.

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It will but don't forget about what Morrigan said at the end of Witch Hunt. Flemeth will be the MAIN antagonist in DA3, trust me. Also, she said something to Hawke after she was ressurcted that made me think this,Image IPB

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Liamv2 wrote...

This was leaked in the survey

"The great nation of Orlais, the most powerful empire in Dragon Age, tears itself apart in civil war. The stout men and women of Ferelden struggle to recover and reclaim their nation from the horde of vile Darkspawn that lay waste to its lands a decade ago.  The Templar order has broken away, claiming the church has become too lax in policing the dangerous powers of the mages. The Mage circleshave rebelled, believing the Templars have become too strict, too zealous in their duties, and too quick to slaughter those who step out of line.

"The world of Dragon Age is one on the brink of collapse, and when a desperate gathering in the name of peace becomes the epicentre of a magical blast that decimates the Chantry's leadership, it becomes clear that someone or something is manipulating events to drive the world into chaos.

"From the ashes of that explosion, something new rises: The Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, it falls to you to build up your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten spaces, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the fabric of the world."

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I like the sound of that as long as the person who is trying to destroy the world is Flemeth.

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The mage/templar thing is one of the weakest elements of Dragon Age so I hope it plays as small a part as possible. I'm still holding out for the plot of Dragon Age 3 to revolve around an invasion of vengeful, evil elves from beyond the veil.

In my head that's what Witch Hunt was setting up and I'm sticking to it until proven otherwise (I know it's not going to happen.)

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I want to find out what the Grey Wardens were up to at the end of Act 2 in DA2 since it was an obvious set up for something in the future.

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As much as I hate the Mage-Templar war I actually hope the focus most of the game on it so we can wrap up the damn thing.Because i'm definitely not gonna buy a third game based on Mages and Templars XP...I'm not even sure if i'm gonna buy this game :/

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It might be, but I doubt it.  

Consider DAO.  You spend the game gathering forces for one battle.  What you're actually doing in the middle act is 1) resolving a conflict between elves and werewolves 2) curing an ailing man 3) taking sides in Dwarven politics 4) ridding a mage tower of abominations.

What about DA2?  You are 1) earning money for an expedition and then going on it 2) trying to defuse a conflict between Qunari and Chantry 3) Hunting down mages for Meredith in an attempt to see her perspective before she ultimately becomes suspicious of the mages and then all that happens.

What about Skyrim?  Well, in between Oblivion and Skyrim 1) demons invaded Summerset 2) the Thalmor rose to power due to being useful against the demons 3) Thalmor invaded and nearly conquered Cyrodil 4) Cyrodil gave up half of Hammerfell to High Elves (which is effectively led by Thalmor faction now) 5) Hammerfell rebelled and ended up fighting Thalmor to stalemate and is now no longer part of Emprie 6) Skyrim in civil war and might leave Empire 7) Black Marsh leaves Empire and invades and destroys part of Morrowind 8) Elsweyr divides into two countries and joins Dominion 8) Valenwood leaves Empire and joins Dominion.  

What's noteworthy is that none of that happened in a game.  It happened between games.  Skyrim does have a war storyline.  It's three quests and a bunch of flavor for NPC's to talk about though.  The core of the "crit path" is a chosen one fighting dragons.

And consider the Star Wars prequels.  People hear about the Clone Wars back in the Original Trilogy.  They assume the Clone Wars will be a very big deal and that it's what the prequels will be about it.  What was it in reality?  One battle at the end of Episode II, and it was mostly fought off screen between Episodes II and III.

A story about small groups of people and their personal conflicts against the backdrop of a war need not deal too heavily with the war itself.  Though when people don't know what to expect and are aware of a war they think "Well, war is a big deal.  So that must be what it's about."

It might be.  But I doubt it.  I imagine it will be something going on that informs events and gives people something to talk about.  But I imagine the Inquisitor will be doing something else.  He's in a party of four.  He can't fight a war with those numbers.  I suppose he could assemble some forces.  But I imagine it's more likely that there will be some bigger fantasy threat and that the mage-templar war will serve to distract people from another issue.  Loghain was distracted from the Darkspawn by Orlais.  And so the Warden was off on his own.  Shepard was always on his own as the Council generally ignored whatever he thought was important.  The mage-templar war could be a reason for people to ignore the Inquisitor and cause him to grit his teeth over how he's surrounded by morons that fight when they don't need to.

It's been hinted that there's a lot of traveling in the game.  True, going from flashpoint to flashpoint in a war could indeed allow for traveling.  But it could also be a chase or search plot where the protagonist has to chase the antagonist around, as in Baldur's Gate II or the first Mass Effect.  Or maybe it will be a mystery where the clues are what cause you to travel around.

I have no idea what the story is, though I'm certainly curious.  The presence of a war though doesn't mean that's going to dominate what you (as protagonist) are actually doing.

Modifié par Giltspur, 16 février 2013 - 09:22 .


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Calob wrote...

 I like the sound of that as long as the person who is trying to destroy the world is Flemeth.

I like the sound of that, as long as the person who's trying to destroy the world isn't Flemeth.

One of us is going to be unhappy. :lol: