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Bethany Hawke as a companion and romance option in DA3


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the fact that OP is turned on by "virgin" doesn't bother me at all. "We all have our fantasies" This notion doesn't stir me in anyway. People who are creeped out by this are probably secretly turned on as well, just too shy to admit it. Not that there's any reason to. Anyhow.

Just wanted to comment on how realistic it is to implement what OP is suggesting: both the your siblings in DA2 changes appearance based on your character, while that might not be a huge problem, it just doesn't seem like a priority to the devs. Unless the hawke siblings have a big role in DA3, I just don't see them making the effort.

A half assed cameo would even be worse I'd argue. I used appearance mod for DA:O, but when they make a cameo in DA2 it just seemed weird, especially Leliana. I'm actually kindda glad Morrigan didn't make it in DA2 for that reason.

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Personally, I would love to see Bethany as a returning character (being properly retconned since it could always be said that "Varric lied about what happened to protect her.."). I really liked her as a kid sister - a lot more in fact, than my real life one...

Furthermore I would love to see her as a "potential" LI, but when you flirt with her she says, "You remind me too much of my brother/sister and that would be too creepy..."

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Everybody has fetishes. Legs, redheads, cougars, virgins. Totally normal. The OPs mistake is what we like to call 'Oversharing'. People are not making fun of you because they 'can't handle' your craaaaazy opinions, they're doing it because you revealed something of yourself - while common - you should've kept to yourself. TMI.

As to the topic, too many possible outcomes. Cameo's the best anyone'll get to the siblings.

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Charade will be in the next game. I'm pretty certain of it based on how she was introduced.

Bethany = noooUUUUP!

Also, this thread will get locked. Someone is going to go berzerk if the OP himself doesn't have the banhammer dropped on him. Either way, it's happening.

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Yes i am for Bethany to come back in Dragon Age 3

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I have been wanting/hoping/asking for SiblingHawke to be a returning companion in DA3. I don't think they got nearly enough time or content in DA2. Getting more time with SiblingHawke, specifically away and out from the shadow of ProtagonistHawke would be great. I want to see how these characters are growing and developing into adults. I think we got a bit of that with DA2 DLC, but I'd like to see an entire game with SiblingHawke as a companion.

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I like to see her again in the next game.

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No.

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WHY?!

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Bethany was cute, but not what I would call a dynamic NPC. I think sometimes we like the familiar so much we forget that to the designers they are just stepping stones. I would hope by DA3 they have come up with women that are a bit more evolved. I also wish they would include attribute tradeoffs that better fit female players.

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*Enters thread*

*Sees OP's reason for wanting to romance Beth*

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Too many variables. Some people have her dead, have Carver, she was in the circle or a Warden. Too many variables.

Besides, I'd like her to wind up with finding GW love with Alistair.

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Corvus I wrote...

Bethany was cute, but not what I would call a dynamic NPC. I think sometimes we like the familiar so much we forget that to the designers they are just stepping stones. I would hope by DA3 they have come up with women that are a bit more evolved. I also wish they would include attribute tradeoffs that better fit female players.


I totally agree with this--I just didn't find her very interesting, and I didn't think she had much depth of character. But, then again, you only see her for (less than) half of the game (even assuming she's alive), so I'm not surprised they didn't give her as much depth as the other companions.

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Calob wrote...

I must have said something to make everybody think I want her as a companion/romance option because she is a virgin

Indeed: "SInce Bethany is a virgin, she would be all sweet and innocent, but very intimate and can be made to be "naughty":o "

You didn't list any reasons about why you want her as a companion/romance option - such as describing why you like her personality or her fighting skills - beyond "she is smoking hot" and she "is a virgin".

Calob wrote...

, no, I said that because she was asked by Isabella has she ever had sex, Im just describing how it should go, I'm not fantasizing over her being a virgin, just thought she was good looking video game character and liked her character.

That dialogue with Isabela was in Act 1 of DAII, wasn't it? Isn't DAIII set like, six-twelve [or more? I can't remember the exact amount] years later? I think it's unlikely that she would still be a virgin at this point in time and that believing she'd still be a virgin is quite an assumption.

You appear to primarily like her looks and the virginity you perceive her to have.

Modifié par Carbon-based, 17 février 2013 - 12:50 .


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No! No, no, no.

If any of the DA2 characters were to return it should definitely be none of them.

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Hey incest is not that bad. I mean, look at all the Greek gods. All those folks were conceived from incest and that turned out okay! Right? Right? :lol:

Edit: I might as well add the Lannisters to that list as well.:wizard:

Modifié par Milan92, 17 février 2013 - 01:01 .


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I'm not opposed to it as i think this sort of thing worked fine with Kaiden/Ashley and i think most of the reasons against it are fairly ridiculous and immature. "Oh noes! She can't be a LI cause she was Hawke's sister in the last game! Ewww! Icky!" Still I don't see it happening though.

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She is boring. And dead.

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She's dead, sorry.

Then again they could just throw continuity and save-importing to the wind and make the Hawke twins, who are both Grey Wardens for some reason, joinable companions. I'd be cool with that.

Edit: I know she's kind of boring but I actually kind of liked Bethany. I think it was purely because she was the only sane character in Dragon Age 2.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 17 février 2013 - 01:05 .


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iOnlySignIn wrote...

She is boring. And dead.

Yep. She died as she lived. As a virgin.


Too soon?

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Hadeedak wrote...

Regarding the OP, having read it.... Yes, Bethany was sweet. Yes, a lot of guys like sweet girls and they're a popular fiction wifey. But could you PLEASE phrase it in a less creepy way? I can get why this'd be up there. Both siblings are likeable and good looking in their special ways. I've made some smashingly handsome Carvers by accident. There's one time I went back and rolled mage because Carver was too pretty to die... Actually, that was the first time I was a mage. I'm not sure I'd .... I dunno. It just seems weird.

Not least of all because knowing my Hawkes, I'd expect her to kick the door down the second making out started and beat my new protagonist up for messing around with her kid brother/kid sister.


I have NEVER had an attractive Carver--I didn't even know it was possible! I always thought the devs made something "off" about his appearance on purpose because he's so unbelievably annoying and antagonistic. For some reason, mine always has a huge forehead and chin and little tiny beady eyes, no matter what my Hawke looks like.

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DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Everybody has fetishes. Legs, redheads, cougars, virgins. Totally normal. The OPs mistake is what we like to call 'Oversharing'. People are not making fun of you because they 'can't handle' your craaaaazy opinions, they're doing it because you revealed something of yourself - while common - you should've kept to yourself. TMI.

As to the topic, too many possible outcomes. Cameo's the best anyone'll get to the siblings.

I didn't reveal anything about my self. I said she was a good looking character and said what her character WOULD BE LIKE as a romance option for DA3.

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Carbon-based wrote...

Calob wrote...

I must have said something to make everybody think I want her as a companion/romance option because she is a virgin

Indeed: "SInce Bethany is a virgin, she would be all sweet and innocent, but very intimate and can be made to be "naughty":o "

You didn't list any reasons about why you want her as a companion/romance option - such as describing why you like her personality or her fighting skills - beyond "she is smoking hot" and she "is a virgin".

Calob wrote...

, no, I said that because she was asked by Isabella has she ever had sex, Im just describing how it should go, I'm not fantasizing over her being a virgin, just thought she was good looking video game character and liked her character.

That dialogue with Isabela was in Act 1 of DAII, wasn't it? Isn't DAIII set like, six-twelve [or more? I can't remember the exact amount] years later? I think it's unlikely that she would still be a virgin at this point in time and that believing she'd still be a virgin is quite an assumption.

You appear to primarily like her looks and the virginity you perceive her to have.

No, you're interpretting it alll wrong,

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Ugh.. please no, she has the personality of a lettuce leaf

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Calob wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Everybody has fetishes. Legs, redheads, cougars, virgins. Totally normal. The OPs mistake is what we like to call 'Oversharing'. People are not making fun of you because they 'can't handle' your craaaaazy opinions, they're doing it because you revealed something of yourself - while common - you should've kept to yourself. TMI.

As to the topic, too many possible outcomes. Cameo's the best anyone'll get to the siblings.

I didn't reveal anything about my self. I said she was a good looking character and said what her character WOULD BE LIKE as a romance option for DA3.


First, you have no idea what she would be like. :P  Second, your entire thing is based on how she is in Act I.  It's been years since then - either years in the Grey Wardens, living life on the edge of death, which will take the innocence out of anyone right quick; or years in a Circle infamous for the abuses its mages suffer.  As a captured apostate, Bethany would have recieved the attention of a lot of Templars - including guys like Alrik.  While she seemed happy enough in the Circle, that doesn't mean she didn't suffer any abuse; just that she felt what she did suffer was tolerable when it also meant she was finally someplace where she's 'normal'.  Also, Isabela sneaks her erotica.  Even if she still has her magical, mystical, coveted hymen, that doesn't make her innocent, or even naive about sex.