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[Pyth the Bull]

Might be worth noting that there are successful publishers and developers that don't use micro-transactions, online passes and day 1 withheld content.

[ryoldschool]

Lol that Dlc is free. Many threads about if people spend money on packs- if they were not getting money from micro transactions they would have to charge for the new content.

[DullahansXMark]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

I don't. I'm not wasting money on stuff I can get by playing the game I enjoy. If they want to though, go ahead. Those boys at Bioware deserve a pay-raise for how awesome ME3 was(yes, I just said it. I think ME3 is the best game of the decade. Kill me if you must.)

[Silvair]

 I have a job.  Spending about 5 bucks on a pack once in a while isn't a big deal.  It's not hurting me anymore than picking up a bag of chips and a drink at the gas station.  Only this will last longer.


That said, I only do it when I get absolutely nothing in a few packs I just spent a couple hours saving up for.  One last shot, only this time, i'm not wasting time for it.

Modifié par Silvair, 16 février 2013 - 10:14 .

[SaltBot]

MrStoob wrote...

The only thing it supports is gaming micro-transactions. If that's what the payers want, fill your boots. Unfortunately it has an impact on the rest us.

Bad news: micro-transactions are not going anywhere anytime soon.

More bad news: until the day slot machines stop making money, RNG stores are here to stay.

Good news: unless the product is terribad or it was built using enslaved children, I will continue to pay real money for BW products and thus hopefully enable some other folks to get more free content in the future.

I deserve neither thanks nor derision for the ways in which I choose to spend my disposable income.

[mpompeo27]

Yes because sometimes my time is worth more than my money.

[Wasabininja]

Well hey we all went to that burger place and swallowed cheaper things havent we?

[Savage Baird]

Oh, so you're in charge of how I spend my money now?

You're welcome for the free DLC douche.

Modifié par Savage Baird, 16 février 2013 - 10:17 .

[Savage Baird]

Heri wrote...

Schachmatt wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

I shed no tears for those dumb enough to pay for my DLC.

Oh look, one of the idiots who really believe MP is free.

Thank you to all of you who spend money. Without you there would be no 'free' dlc and probably no MP at all anymore

Oh really? How in-depth of a view do you have into BW/EA's finances, pray tell? Because the "no people paying extra = no free DLC" argument gets bandied around a LOT here, and yet I'm pretty sure you have no idea if that's true or not. You do know that BW made a lot of money from the outright sales of ME3, right? Do you think it's conceivable that the money they made there was more than enough to pay for the MP DLCs, and that the money people spend in the store is pure profit for them? Maybe?

Actually I do see where you're coming from but without microtransactions, we would've had to pay for DLC.

Modifié par Savage Baird, 16 février 2013 - 10:23 .

[JaimasOfRaxis]

EA is a multi-billion dollar company. Is spending a few greenbacks and making the game suck less really such a tall order?

To hear the community tell it, yes. How dare we tell the devs to fix things like the spawn system or health gate or the Geth being as fun to play against as ramming your genitals into wood chipper. We should all be good little sheep and bleat at how wonderful and magical the game is and turn a deaf ear to the litany of problems the game has. Surely that won't ever bite us in the ass in the long run.

[han shot shepard]

mpompeo27 wrote...

Yes because sometimes my time is worth more than my money.

this is how I feel and the time I do spend playing ME3 MP, I like to have half decent weapons and consumables, which results in earning more packs

[JG The Gamer]

Savage Baird wrote...

Oh, so you're in charge of how I spend my money now?

You're welcome for the free DLC douche.

Ignore him. He's looking for an excuse to hold himself above everyone else.  I say everyone can do whatever they want with their own cash. If they spend 5K on the RNG store, totally up to them.

[Zero132132]

Tokenusername wrote...

I shed no tears for those dumb enough to pay for my DLC.

Suppose you consistently clear Platinum in 20minutes. You get, what, 160k per Platinum game? So that's 480k per hour. That's enough for about 5 PSPs. Each PSP can be bought for $3. That's the equivalent of getting paid $15 per hour.

Some people work a lot and can't devote as much time to games, so the comparable cost of time vs. money in their lives doesn't work the same way it does in yours. Someone isn't stupid for valuing out-of-game time more than in-game time.

[YouAreHorse]

Another one of these threads?

Awesome, 'cus they are all so original and stuff.

And gotta love the ****hats that think "pay-wut-u-want" translate into "free-stuff-for-my-greedy-face-because-people-dumb-amirite".

That is why we never will have nice things.


Oh, and stop making these threads!

[shnig_1]

When I bought mvc2 and burnout paradise, I had like 8 bucks left over on my account. I wasn't planning on buying any dlc or games for a good while, so I just used the rest on packs

[YouAreHorse]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

EA is a multi-billion dollar company. Is spending a few greenbacks and making the game suck less really such a tall order?

To hear the community tell it, yes. How dare we tell the devs to fix things like the spawn system or health gate or the Geth being as fun to play against as ramming your genitals into wood chipper. We should all be good little sheep and bleat at how wonderful and magical the game is and turn a deaf ear to the litany of problems the game has. Surely that won't ever bite us in the ass in the long run.

What have you taken? And can you get me some?

[JaimasOfRaxis]

YouAreHorse wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

EA is a multi-billion dollar company. Is spending a few greenbacks and making the game suck less really such a tall order?

To hear the community tell it, yes. How dare we tell the devs to fix things like the spawn system or health gate or the Geth being as fun to play against as ramming your genitals into wood chipper. We should all be good little sheep and bleat at how wonderful and magical the game is and turn a deaf ear to the litany of problems the game has. Surely that won't ever bite us in the ass in the long run.

What have you taken? And can you get me some?

Nothing actually, I've simply run out of Fs to give.

[Tokenusername]

Zero132132 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

I shed no tears for those dumb enough to pay for my DLC.

Suppose you consistently clear Platinum in 20minutes. You get, what, 160k per Platinum game? So that's 480k per hour. That's enough for about 5 PSPs. Each PSP can be bought for $3. That's the equivalent of getting paid $15 per hour.

Some people work a lot and can't devote as much time to games, so the comparable cost of time vs. money in their lives doesn't work the same way it does in yours. Someone isn't stupid for valuing out-of-game time more than in-game time.

This is where your logic is flawed. If the game was entirely about aquiring stuff I would be inclined to agree with the idea that you're saving time by spending money. However it's not about stuff. Stuff is a means to an end, the end being enjoyable gameplay with replayablity. I don't particularly care about having the best equipment. Sure, it makes the game more funs sometimes when you can melt through brutes in a second with the PPR, but i'll go into a game with the Avenger and a freaking Predator and I can still have fun.

Contrary to the way you seem to see it, those that spend an hour a day playing Gold/Plat farming matches and spending whatever cash on extra packs care about the game a lot more than those that spend five hours ****ing around in sliver matches.

Modifié par Tokenusername, 16 février 2013 - 10:43 .

[Zero132132]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

EA is a multi-billion dollar company. Is spending a few greenbacks and making the game suck less really such a tall order?

To hear the community tell it, yes. How dare we tell the devs to fix things like the spawn system or health gate or the Geth being as fun to play against as ramming your genitals into wood chipper. We should all be good little sheep and bleat at how wonderful and magical the game is and turn a deaf ear to the litany of problems the game has. Surely that won't ever bite us in the ass in the long run.

u mad bro?

You act like they're making ridiculous profits. I was very briefly a shareholder, and it's a pretty unimpressive stock, truth be told. To a large extent, it seems like the stock market doesn't react to game releases at all, but thier profits aren't great for a company of their size. People imagine that just because they're big, they're profitable and can throw money at all manner of things, but they have a lot of expenses already.

[billy the squid]

Heri wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Facepalm.

No, no, no, no. It goes towards other company finance projects, servicing debts, overhead costs, expenses, new development projects. It does NOT go to a new DLC or cash fund to make new DLC.  This is how Company finance and accounts work.

Oh, so you're an accountant for BW? Great, thanks for the insider knowledge.

I have studied and know business and commercial law. Had to do tax, accountancy. Know company finance and how companies work due to my involvement in financial transactions, market investing and economics.

So yes I do know how internal company finance works and there's only so many ways that a company functions, paticularly a PLC. 

In short I know, you don't, so keep your mouth shut before you make a big fool of yourself.

Modifié par billy the squid, 16 février 2013 - 10:51 .

[YouAreHorse]

Tokenusername wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

I shed no tears for those dumb enough to pay for my DLC.

Suppose you consistently clear Platinum in 20minutes. You get, what, 160k per Platinum game? So that's 480k per hour. That's enough for about 5 PSPs. Each PSP can be bought for $3. That's the equivalent of getting paid $15 per hour.

Some people work a lot and can't devote as much time to games, so the comparable cost of time vs. money in their lives doesn't work the same way it does in yours. Someone isn't stupid for valuing out-of-game time more than in-game time.

This is where your logic is flawed. If the game was entirely about aquiring stuff I would be inclined to agree with the idea that you're saving time by spending money. However it's not about stuff. Stuff is a means to an end, the end being enjoyable gameplay with replayablity. I don't particularly care about having the best equipment. Sure, it makes the game more funs sometimes when you can melt through brutes in a second with the PPR, but i'll go into a game with the Avenger and a freaking Predator and I can still have fun.

Contrary to the way you seem to see it, those that spend an hour a day playing Gold/Plat farming matches and spending whatever cash on extra packs care about the game a lot more than those that spend five hours ****ing around in sliver matches.

Please don't apply your standards of enjoyment from the game as an objective standard everyone has to adhere to. What each individual derives in terms of enjoyment from me3 should be irrelevant to you.

As such, don't ever use the word logic again without actually knowing what that would entail. You make baby jesus cry, y'know;)

[Zero132132]

Tokenusername wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

I shed no tears for those dumb enough to pay for my DLC.

Suppose you consistently clear Platinum in 20minutes. You get, what, 160k per Platinum game? So that's 480k per hour. That's enough for about 5 PSPs. Each PSP can be bought for $3. That's the equivalent of getting paid $15 per hour.

Some people work a lot and can't devote as much time to games, so the comparable cost of time vs. money in their lives doesn't work the same way it does in yours. Someone isn't stupid for valuing out-of-game time more than in-game time.

This is where your logic is flawed. If the game was entirely about aquiring stuff I would be inclined to agree with the idea that you're saving time by spending money. However it's not about stuff. Stuff is a means to an end, the end being enjoyable gameplay with replayablity. I don't particularly care about having the best equipment. Sure, it makes the game more funs sometimes when you can melt through brutes in a second with the PPR, but i'll go into a game with the Avenger and a freaking Predator and I can still have fun.

Contrary to the way you seem to see it, those that spend an hour a day playing Gold/Plat farming matches and spending whatever cash on extra packs care about the game a lot more than those that spend five hours ****ing around in sliver matches.

If the purpose of the game was only to acquire stuff, then you'd do that by playing the game. If the purpose of the game is to have fun, then since most have fun with more options in terms of characters, weapons, and potential loadouts/builds in general, acquiring more in less time generally means you're going to be able to have more fun.

If the point was just to acquire stuff, then you would get less of what you wanted out of a game by spending money. If your point is to enjoy the game, then the opposite is true.

[YouAreHorse]

billy the squid wrote...


In short I know, you don't, so keep your mouth shut before you make a big fool of yourself.

I am totally buying that you know what you are talking about!