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[billy the squid]

Barge6000 wrote...

you cannot be serious... you cant base your opinion on a weapons state of balance based on playing it with a Tsol.

So which then. 

Human Sol. Oh Adrenaline rush
Turain. oh Marksman and passives.
Turian Sent. Passives
Destroyer..yeah destroyer mode.
Batarian huge ammo capacity.
TGI/ GI/ Drell. riiiight, highest DPs classes in the game
Any infiltrator. 80% damage boost.

Almost any weapons class you put the Saber on it's going to perform well on, your point is moot. Unless you want to put it on a power class and then complain it doesn't perform like the Harrier and kills your recharge rate. It's like putting the Typhoon on an annihalation field fury and then complaining it's not as good as it is on a destroyer. 

[Necrotron]

TJLenz wrote...

You took the words right out of my mouth John.
The Saber is amazing.

That avatar.  Haha.  One of the best moments in ME3.

[Barge6000]

something like a krogan or batarian soldier, no massive weapon buffs, relys on weapons for bulk of damage output. Seriously tho, "try it on a Tsol" in a balance discussion should be banned around here

[Chi_Mangetsu]

Barge6000 wrote...

something like a krogan or batarian soldier, no massive weapon buffs, relys on weapons for bulk of damage output. Seriously tho, "try it on a Tsol" in a balance discussion should be banned around here

The weapons are designed for different types of play styles. The Saber isn't a caster weapon. Problem?

[lightswitch]

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Barge6000 wrote...

something like a krogan or batarian soldier, no massive weapon buffs, relys on weapons for bulk of damage output. Seriously tho, "try it on a Tsol" in a balance discussion should be banned around here

The weapons are designed for different types of play styles. The Saber isn't a caster weapon. Problem?

Saber is light enough to be a caster weapon at level 1, it's even better as you level it up. Any weapon that gives you 100% cooldown or better is light enough to be a caster weapon.

edit: and 100% isn't even that important...

Modifié par lightswitch, 17 février 2013 - 10:17 .

[cowwy]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Princess Rolf wrote...

Saber X and always Piercing mod and Extended barrel. Yes Mag upgrade gets slightly higher DPS, but then then you miss out on the ammo-mods that makes the Saber kick ass! Cryo, Inci, Warp, Disr.

Why anyone would opt out of 25 % extra damage, is beyond me. Makes it way to heavy with HVB, for an already heavy piece.

If I see a player with a scoped Saber in the lobby, I kick or leave. That´s just plain stupid mod for a AR.

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Kick me with my AJA and scoped Saber sis! You will save yourself considerable embarrassment.

EDIT: as lightswitch said, the dissing haterz have posted in the thread. I think that the last shred of credibility I thought cowwy had was torched in this thread. Sry bro, you crazy.

You thought I had credibillity before? I'm flattered. Maybe I spoke a little too strongly of my opinion then. My point is not that the Saber sucks, but that it sucks in comparison to the myriad of other options that Marksman and the stability bonus opens. You can make the Incisor perfectly workable on the Turian Soldier but does that make it a good gun? Absolutely not. Even though it is my favorite sniper rifle I'm not kidding myself into believing it is a good gun, it is massively outclassed by just about every other sniper rifle in the game.

Modifié par cowwy, 17 février 2013 - 10:36 .

[ssltrain]

I like the Saber. Buff it's rate of fire to be faster and it'd be my favorite AR.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

capn233 wrote...

Nobody says the Saber sucks.

 exactly, wonder wtf are these people who say it sucks? I rock it on my tgi all the time, sometimes my other infiltrators too. Maybe on my tsol but i have too much fun melting stuff with a typhoon on him instead.

[jandrewcepticon]

CptGingerbread wrote...

I can't fully get to grips with it on PS3, maybe them PC headshots help.

Saying that whenever i play with Jandrewcepticon, he beasts with the Geth Engi + Saber.

The Saber is awesome. It took me a while to get it's rythm, but as soon as I got it, it easily became one of my favorites. 

[Lucius Aelius]

The Saber is one of my three favorite guns in this game (also CSR and PPR, though PPR's ramp-up means I don't use it on most characters), and I use it on several characters (Geth Engineer, Human Soldier, Quarian Marksman, even on my Volus if I get tired of putting up with the CSR's scope). I can honestly say it doesn't matter which character I use, the Saber always kicks ass. I always use AP mod and extended mag (HVB instead of AP if I don't care about weight).

Anyone who says the Saber isn't one of the single best guns in the game should learn how to shoot, and console players are not excused; I play Xbox and as annoying as auto-aim and poor sensitivity are to deal with, they can indeed be managed and it doesn't stop me from getting at least 20 headshots every game, usually a lot more (except on Platinum, still doable but I never get as many headshots as on Gold).

EDIT: And stability mods/passives are completely unnecessary with this gun unless you don't know how to shoot, so anyone relying on them to make this gun work is doing it wrong and very badly needs to learn how to handle recoil properly.

Modifié par Lucius Aelius, 17 février 2013 - 11:12 .

[XxX1000Corpses]

Saber is awesome on caster classes. I use it on my Fury, Asari Adept, Engineer, even my Volus Adept to name a few. It's a multi-purpose weapon. (To those who know how to use it correctly)

[lightswitch]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

I think that the last shred of credibility I thought cowwy had was torched in this thread. Sry bro, you crazy.

Yeah he's crazy, but he's a great player though...

[leminzplz]

I don't think I've met anyone who thought the Saber was rubbish, but I have to say it is one of my favourite guns

[Princess Rolf]

RedJohn wrote...

Princess Rolf wrote...

Saber X and always Piercing mod and Extended barrel. Yes Mag upgrade gets slightly higher DPS, but then then you miss out on the ammo-mods that makes the Saber kick ass! Cryo, Inci, Warp, Disr.

Why anyone would opt out of 25 % extra damage, is beyond me. Makes it way to heavy with HVB, for an already heavy piece.

If I see a player with a scoped Saber in the lobby, I kick or leave. That´s just plain stupid mod for a AR.

Saber X and always Piercing mod and Extended barrel. Yes Mag upgrade gets slightly higher DPS, but then then you miss out on the ammo-mods that makes the Saber kick ass! Cryo, Inci, Warp, Disr.

 
 What?

Why anyone would opt out of 25 % extra damage, is beyond me. Makes it way to heavy with HVB, for an already heavy piece.

If I see a player with a scoped Saber in the lobby, I kick or leave. That´s just plain stupid mod for a AR.

:blink:WHAT?

Yes RedJohn (and you others that clame "to scope a Saber is the way to go"), if you don´t put 25 % extra damage on the Saber, you´re not utilizing the rifle to it´s full potential, and when you do use the EB, you need/should/have to equip the Piercing mod. If you can´t kill almost every single enemy, within the Sabers 7 shot clip, then you need practice.

Scoping a AR, when there´s Sniper rifles already scoped, is beyond comprehension. Yes they do make moore damage then the Saber. Yes I rarely use a SR on my Infils. Headshots with my scopeless Saber is way better. If you need a scope on the Saber, to make headshots across any map, then you know you need to practice.

And to say one last thing. Arguing on the internet is like .......

You can love the Saber, but to not use it to it´s full potential, seems stupid, to say the least...

[RedJohn]

Princess Rolf wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Princess Rolf wrote...

Saber X and always Piercing mod and Extended barrel. Yes Mag upgrade gets slightly higher DPS, but then then you miss out on the ammo-mods that makes the Saber kick ass! Cryo, Inci, Warp, Disr.

Why anyone would opt out of 25 % extra damage, is beyond me. Makes it way to heavy with HVB, for an already heavy piece.

If I see a player with a scoped Saber in the lobby, I kick or leave. That´s just plain stupid mod for a AR.

Saber X and always Piercing mod and Extended barrel. Yes Mag upgrade gets slightly higher DPS, but then then you miss out on the ammo-mods that makes the Saber kick ass! Cryo, Inci, Warp, Disr.

 
 What?

Why anyone would opt out of 25 % extra damage, is beyond me. Makes it way to heavy with HVB, for an already heavy piece.

If I see a player with a scoped Saber in the lobby, I kick or leave. That´s just plain stupid mod for a AR.

:blink:WHAT?

Yes RedJohn (and you others that clame "to scope a Saber is the way to go"), if you don´t put 25 % extra damage on the Saber, you´re not utilizing the rifle to it´s full potential, and when you do use the EB, you need/should/have to equip the Piercing mod. If you can´t kill almost every single enemy, within the Sabers 7 shot clip, then you need practice.

Scoping a AR, when there´s Sniper rifles already scoped, is beyond comprehension. Yes they do make moore damage then the Saber. Yes I rarely use a SR on my Infils. Headshots with my scopeless Saber is way better. If you need a scope on the Saber, to make headshots across any map, then you know you need to practice.

And to say one last thing. Arguing on the internet is like .......

You can love the Saber, but to not use it to it´s full potential, seems stupid, to say the least...

1. I don't put scope on saber, i don't like snipers.

2. If I use Extended Barrel and AP mod then I wouldn't be able to equip Phasic Rounds and 1 shot some mooks , because instead of that I would have to equip AP ammo or warp ammo. Also, HVB is better even with the weight, because it ignores 90% of armour with reduced 40% of damage, against the 65% armor ignored and 40% reduced damage of AP mod, so that means, if you don't equip HVB you will have to use AP ammo and say bye bye to the idea of killing centurions or even phantoms ( sometimes ) with 1 single headshot.


3.

If you can´t kill almost every single enemy, within the Sabers 7 shot clip, then you need practice.

I don't it would be clever to tell me that , but btw, if you don't use Extended mag you are wasting Marksman potential with it.

[HinDae]

Saber is pretty amazing, I can never get it to really work, but thats due to me not being good with it.

[Silvair]

billy the squid wrote...

Barge6000 wrote...

you cannot be serious... you cant base your opinion on a weapons state of balance based on playing it with a Tsol.

So which then. 

Human Sol. Oh Adrenaline rush
Turain. oh Marksman and passives.
Turian Sent. Passives
Destroyer..yeah destroyer mode.
Batarian huge ammo capacity.
TGI/ GI/ Drell. riiiight, highest DPs classes in the game
Any infiltrator. 80% damage boost.

Almost any weapons class you put the Saber on it's going to perform well on, your point is moot. Unless you want to put it on a power class and then complain it doesn't perform like the Harrier and kills your recharge rate. It's like putting the Typhoon on an annihalation field fury and then complaining it's not as good as it is on a destroyer. 

Slap it on a Quarian (preferably female) and don't use powers, only passives.  As in, no Cloak.

That's my way of figuring out whether a gun is good or not.

I've recently been playing my FQI as a soldier with only cloak and sab, mostly just using Sab and not cloaking for damage, and running different guns like that.

Modifié par Silvair, 19 février 2013 - 03:48 .

[Striker93175]

RedJohn wrote...

 

I used Turian soldier, and yes, i know Turian soldier makes every weapon much better but I wouldn't get this result with some other weapons on the same turian guy and with only 2 launchers.

I was testing some stuff with the Phasic rounds 3, it was awesome, but I still don't know couple of stuff like if it is a waste to use phasic rounds 3 when I use AR rail III and vulnerability V and instead of that I should use AP ammo ( i also use Heavy Barrel )

So, Saber is an amazing gun, doesn't need to be buffed, doesn't need to be nerfed it is just perfect now.

Saber only needs a good hand to handle it, mainly under marksman and in fact it takes some time to get used to it if you want to take advantage of the high rate of fire with mooks and is hard.

But with enough practice............ just amazing.

I put it on the FQE with high end disrupter ammo.

Cryo to debuff armor units.  Shoot, incin to set off massive amounts of tech bursts all over.  I take this kit into plat.  Saber is a great weapon all in all.  Bursting on top of it makes it even crazier.

Plus, da sounds


EDIT
If you have trouble aiming with this gun or handling recoil, quick scope each shot.  Zoom+ fire same time.
Zoom and boom, zoom and boom, zoom and boom.

Modifié par Striker93175, 19 février 2013 - 05:03 .

[RedJohn]

With Cryo ammo?