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[spaletz]

 I think it was Chris Avellone from obsidian who said he was working on trying to socialize the single player RPG. I feel like if done properly this could be a good thing for the genre.

If Dragon Age III had an app for my phone that allowed me to organize my inventory, character equipment, and even buy things from merchants (like in game things, not DLC), I feel like that could be a fun way to track my progress and do some micromanaging that I wouldnt need to then do when I played the game next.

Also I think it would be cool to have a trading marketplace Valve style with in-game items that you can trade with other players online.

Just some thoughts. What do others think?

[Renmiri1]

An auction House like WoW or Diablo III. Those things are addictive! 


I dread finding the perfect mage staff on my warrior playthrough. If I could sell  / trade it online it would be fun.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 17 février 2013 - 06:36 .

[AlexJK]

I don't think any kind of auction house or online trading system belongs in a story-driven single player game. If a DA MMO ever came out then sure, but doesn't really seem relevant to the DA series so far...

[LinksOcarina]

So...I just want to point out is that you will get socializing aspects in Dragon Age: Inquisition, mainly because of EA's "mandate" of using social services in their franchises.

This is also why multiplayer is a possibility, one that I think will work out well if BioWare is able to sell folks on a RPG multiplayer. I said this earlier but the flashpoints in ToR are a good example of how to do it, at least in terms of storytelling. It would need some tweaks of course to fit into Dragon Age, but it would be really cool to implement.

[AppealToReason]

NOOOO! THIS RUINS MY IMMERSION! DO NOT RUIN MY GAME WITH NEW IDEAS!

[Wulfram]

So does this mean that gold will be distributed from each according to his ability and to each according to his need? Rather than the capitalist PC hogging it all?

More seriously, I have no desire to socialise the single player RPG. Aside I guess from talking about it on forums. I want to vanish into a different world, I have no desire to tie it to this one.

[LinksOcarina]

AppealToReason wrote...

NOOOO! THIS RUINS MY IMMERSION! DO NOT RUIN MY GAME WITH NEW IDEAS!

So go play Ultima on your Amiga 2 then. 

[BouncyFrag]

I wonder how long it would take for EA to consider this idea before they ponder incorporating micro-transactions into it.

[Blazomancer]

The app sounds cool but I'm not quite sure about the trading system. I probably wouldn't want it, and wouldn't use it even if such a system is introduced in DA3.

[Belmond01]

The trading system would ruin the sweet rpggoodness and turn it into a hack n'slash experience... It just doesn't fit the universe and I hope they understand that, before it's too late.

[Knight of Dane]

I don't see the point. In the past Dragon Age games there was nothing in your game that I could not get in mine on my own.

[Blazomancer]

@Knight of Dane - Exactly, i was wondering about it too. Unless they introduce equipments with random bonus specs and/or large number of randomly generated legendary gear, I can't really see a trading system to be of much value.

[Fast Jimmy]

Meh.

If the inventory in a game is so complex I feel the need to download an app to do it on my break, or that things such as crafting or leveling up takes so much time that I would need to not do so in the normal game, then that is bad design.

If there is an auction house, that requires an always-online mode in order to prevent people from creating their own weapons offline and then selling them. Also, the chances of an auction house not charging with real money, or having a way to buy in-game gold with real-life cash, is slim to none. Couple it with the fact that any support for mods that would exist without a mod kit out would be actively fought against by the developer, to prevent people from making extremely over-powered weapons to sell in said auction house.

And, as far as Facebook updates about me leveling up or Twitter tweets when I sleep with an LI... I have no desire to be incentivized to use these social media outlets, nor would I want to advertise my gaming choices to the world, either.

So... pretty much no to this. Chris Avelone is a smart designer, but on this front, I completely disagree. Trying to turn everyone in the world into a hardcore gamer is like trying to turn everyone into a soccer fan, or turning everyone into a mystery-novel reader. The marketing techniques are usually fairly ineffective at capturing new fans. Word of mouth from a quality product is the number one way to bring new customers into your genre.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 17 février 2013 - 07:55 .

[cindercatz]

Yeah, I don't like the trading system.

So.. how to socialize it... ... ... I don't really want to. If I had to, I'd imagine some mp where you can battle players from other factions, only they see you as enemy stand-in characters and you see them as same? If we're socializing single player. Win or lose and your story changes in some small, immediate way. If you don't like the change or want full control of it, then you have a toggle in game to replace the other player character enemies with npcs.

Also, you could have a player character market similar to the Pawn market in Dragon's Dogma, where you can hire other players' created characters as castle guards or an officer to send out on missions or something. That might be cool.

[Chiramu]

DA3 will not be an MMO so any mobile app function that intrudes in the game would not make any sense.

If anything they could make a Diablo 3 styled AH if that's what you're getting at. But I doubt Bioware would be planning to do something like that.

And also, "socialise the RPG" the thread title has nothing to do with what you've written in your post OP. Socialising the RPG is what they did with Skyrim, they gave the players people that you can interact with rather than Oblivion where you are wandering the landscape alone. Bioware games have never ever been like an Elder Scrolls game, so this thread really is pointless.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

I don't mind micromanaging my inventory in-game, but I like this idea, especially the part where we could trade items with other players (on XBL or PSN, hopefully it would be a REAL marketplace, where we can trade with strangers, not just friends who also own the game). This would be especially cool if a proper crafting system where we can customize armor and weapons down to the colour scheme and being able to name items happens in DA3.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Am I the only one that likes playing singleplayer games as a singleplayer?

[LinksOcarina]

DinoSteve wrote...

Am I the only one that likes playing singleplayer games as a singleplayer?

No I like it too.

That said, I also like playing online with people. If I get to choose between the two within one game, and if its implemented properly, then I see no issue with it. 

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 17 février 2013 - 08:54 .

[Fredward]

As long as I don't HAVE to do it (since I don't really want to) go mad.

[Rawgrim]

Belmond01 wrote...

The trading system would ruin the sweet rpggoodness and turn it into a hack n'slash experience... It just doesn't fit the universe and I hope they understand that, before it's too late.

This.

[nightscrawl]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

As long as I don't HAVE to do it (since I don't really want to) go mad.

I feel this way about most systems that aren't related to the story aspect of the game. As an example, I'm not really keen on crafting in these games. The very limited involvement in DA2 suited me just fine as I didn't have to think about it at all beyond buying the occasional recipe. My OCD for looting everything took care of the materials aspect of it. I know that other people enjoy crafting, though, so I won't begrudge them of it. If people want a phone app so they can organize their bags or respec their PC/followers while standing in line at the bank, go nuts, as long as I can avoid it if I want.

[Kingthlayer]

I don't see a point in a trading system. I can't recall ever having a gold problem in any Dragon Age game, hell I don't recall having any type of currency issue in any RPG I played.

So that means the in game currency is worthless, which means they'll throw up some real money auction house, something I have no interest in. Microtransactions are bad enough, but paying another player money to get an item, that type of idea is so bad that it isn't worth me talking about it so I'm just going to stop.

[Ex Tenebrae Lux]

An App for Dragon Age? I imagine a war between templars and mages... I have to choose one side and then gather ressources (assets) for the war... To get them fully equipped for the war, (for example to train them) I have to play the multiplayer part or download an app and play... somehow I've seen this before somewhere.

I don't want DA:I to look and play like ME3. A single-player RPG is a single-player RPG and I really would like to play one.

[MichaelStuart]

I just want to play games in peace.

[xAmilli0n]

MichaelStuart wrote...

I just want to play games in peace.

^ This right here.  If I want to play with friends, I'll play an appropriate game.  Don't tamper with my single player experience.

Modifié par xAmilli0n, 17 février 2013 - 09:48 .