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spudspot wrote...
What I'm currently asking myself is how your aim as a client is hampered by the host's fps?
Isn't that rather a lag issue?
SavagelyEpic wrote...
Oh, okay. So when someone else says literally the exact same thing as I've been you agree with them but suddenly I'm accused of being a "noob"?
As for my group affiliations - At this point your assumptions are just making you out to be an ass. Especially when a fair number of those players are in all likelihood better than you. And for the record? We've both been playing long enough for any comparison between our experience to be a moot point.
I don't have to be in the game with you to recognize that the possibility of your host being desperate enough to intentionally cap his FPS is low compared to the far more likely possibility that he's a gamer on a budget. Especially if he didn't have a mic, which supports what you're describing. Maybe you should've asked him?
Congratulations on making yourself out to be a total ass.
Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...
Ultner wrote...
No sane person would freely lock their fps to 30. On my computer ME3 runs only at 15-30 fps and I tell you, it does NOT make the game easier at all. Try it! And of course I do not host.
OK.
This is a legitimate possiblity, that the host was hosting on a toy.
As you yourself said... "of course I do not host." Good on you....
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As Air Quotes has said then, this game for PC is actually fundamentally broken. There is no normalization in gameplay, and not enough of a minimal requirement on the user-end.
I still contend that it was exactly the case I describe... The host of that match did lock his FPS, there is no other explanation that fits. I would prefer to never play in a match like that again, thus this thread.
Air Quotes wrote...
spudspot wrote...
What I'm currently asking myself is how your aim as a client is hampered by the host's fps?
Isn't that rather a lag issue?
Unreal engine calculates every enemy action depending on FPS. The more FPS - the faster they react and the faster they find you and shoot you.
This game was made for consoles - meaning - 30 FPS. At 60 - you're already playing against a harder A.I. with much better accuracy.
it is really kit dependent. Tank classes are easier. Playing 120 as host is actually not bad. Playing it off host sucks, even local LAN. But that could be the second macine I was using is a crappy computer. But at 120 the more lag to host you have the worse it gets.Air Quotes wrote...
HolyAvenger wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
On the opposite end - people who play 120 FPS make this game a nightmare for everyone else.
Played it. Not thaaaaaat bad.
For a seasoned player. But it's no way the intended difficulty.
Feneckus wrote...
How do you know the host capped his FPS ?
Besides, if you had a three shot raider, that had nothing to do with his framerate. Just lag.
Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...
SavagelyEpic wrote...
Oh, okay. So when someone else says literally the exact same thing as I've been you agree with them but suddenly I'm accused of being a "noob"?
As for my group affiliations - At this point your assumptions are just making you out to be an ass. Especially when a fair number of those players are in all likelihood better than you. And for the record? We've both been playing long enough for any comparison between our experience to be a moot point.
I don't have to be in the game with you to recognize that the possibility of your host being desperate enough to intentionally cap his FPS is low compared to the far more likely possibility that he's a gamer on a budget. Especially if he didn't have a mic, which supports what you're describing. Maybe you should've asked him?
Congratulations on making yourself out to be a total ass.
In this thread, their are two players I can say are definitively better players than myself: Feneckus and Bolo_Xia. I am not the worlds best, but I hang with anyone just fine.
As for my assumptions.... I see you did nothing to disprove them. Perhaps because they are not assumptions at all but actually fact? There is a burden of proof now on you, if you want to call me a total ass prove I am wrong.
Congratulations on getting yourself butthurt in a BSN forum
Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 17 février 2013 - 08:02 .
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Modifié par llandwynwyn, 17 février 2013 - 08:15 .
llandwynwyn wrote...
Oh, let's stop being naive, BSN. In my experience there are a lot of pc players with subpar pcs hosting, but...
Running with the pizza started with comments on bsn -> someone made a video -> most pugs now know how to do it.
FBW? I remember people from here talking about how easy it was. A thread explaining how to farm. Vids on youtube. Pugs farmed until Bioware changed the map.
And Glacier's room. Before pugs started to farm, surprise surprise, BSN was talking about it.
Someone explained how to cap fps on the ini in that thread and people on the very thread said they were going to /did it.
Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...
I gave credence to said poster because he has a system that cannot handle the game at 60fps, which did back up your point and made me recant slightly. I conceded that point to you and him, how you failed to notice escapes me. I guess I should have said something in that quoted post "Oh I am so sorry SavagelyEpic!!!1!"
I am not engaging in an e-peen fencing match. I believe that I know what I am experiencing in-game and you chose to argue with me about that. This is an argument you cannot win, since you were not there and (probably very happily for you ATM) we do not share a mind. I bring up your in-game time and experience as a way to tell you: hey dude, I know what I am talking about here, since you weren't there and I have probably played a lot more, and and a higher level, than you.
This is not me saying I am the better player. It is me saying that I am probably the more experienced player that has probably seen more of the game and its craziness than you have. It is possible that you can run circles around me in-game - it wouldn't be the first time I have been pimpslapped on the scoreboard. I have threads upon threads in this forum illustrating myself getting woefully outscored. And vice-versa, of course.
Nursing past grudges confuses me.... What are you talking about?
If you do not want to show me your manifest, that is fine. My point was that your opinion cannot be more valid than mine; by definition they are both opinions.
Regarding credibility: My experience in this game is an open book. I have 100 friends on my list, and many of them are on the BSN. I have opinions, I state them freely. I generally try not to make blanket statements, but there are cases where I am not perfectly objective. Seems that while you are happy to point out that I cannot be objective (which I find lacking in truth frankly) - your saying that I cannot read and comprehend posts based on merit of words is bs, and you are the one that started name calling here. I am not rich, I work hard in a well-paid blue collar world of heavy lifting, dirt and sweat. How was that an objective statement and not a opinion based on.... ???
Bolo Xia wrote...
@Savage
sure it is possible that the dude is a budget gamer, but also doesnt mean people should get hostile about it.
what kind of responce did you expect after saying "Congratulations on making yourself out to be a total ass."
just because not everysingle player comes to the forums does not mean that everyone we run into doesn't, nor does it mean they do.
argueing over the chance possibility of either is kinda silly, the OP described what could be considered symptoms of FPS capping, you argued that it is a budget gamer.
but it seems like to me, that the OP is calling out to people and asking them not to use a 30 FPS cap while hosting, which he believes he came across based on the symptoms.
could it be a budget gamer instead? sure, but i see no reason to get nasty about it.
Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 17 février 2013 - 08:25 .
nanotm wrote...
yeah not to mention its actually possible to solo plat with a low level kit useing crappy weapons when you cap your fps below 30, i always wondered how bronze was harder than plat (as seen in vids) till i read about capping the fps, i then checked mine out and discovered my pc is running at 120 nativley (which is why i stopped hosting games very often) its better if everyone plays at defualt fps because it stops a lot of the weird syncro errors, and helps people who end up in a laggy game aim off for kills.....
oh and yes i have played on the xbox and the frame rate is nice and slow and plat on the xbox is like silver on the pc in terms of difficulty based on how the enemy target you........
lightswitch wrote...
I honestly can't believe some of you don't think people will be hosting with capped frame rates. The player base at large has proven over and over that they will use whatever tactics they can to make the game easier. If they think capping the frame rate makes the game easier, word will get out, and they will do it. No question.
The more I think about it, the more I'm worried there will be an epidemic.
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