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[Mathias]

(I would just like to stress that "dead" does not mean "broke". Of course there's still money to be made with Mass Effect. But if you asked me what's more important, how much money a franchise makes or how good it is, i would tell you the quality is more important. And Mass Effect definitely is having an issue of quality with a lot of people.)

 I'm sure we've all heard people say Mass Effect was the Star Trek or Star Wars of our generation. Before ME3 i felt like that was somewhat accurate, because it definitely had a rich enough lore and universe to become the next big thing. One of the most popular franchises in gaming, and who knows, perhaps it could've stretched out into other forms of media like television and film. The potential for it was certaintly there.

But then the ending happened, which quickly and effectively split the fanbase into two. On one side you have fans who feel like the franchise is ruined, and on the other side you have people who decided to remain fans, regardless of whether they hated or loved the ending. But it's pretty clear that the franchise and it's fanbase took a colossal hit, and really hasn't made a significant enough recovery. It does look like the future of Mass Effect rests on the success of the next game, but I feel that whatever they do is gonna end up getting overshadowed by ME3's ending, unless maybe if they did some sort of reboot.

Do I think it's a dead franchise? On a personal level and as of right now, I believe it is. However I know as a whole it still has fans. But the way I see it, any chances Mass Effect had to become a massive franchise on the level of something like Star Trek, has been destroyed. That doesn't mean it won't make a comeback, but I don't see that happening.

And believe me, I want nothing more than to Mass Effect to make a comeback.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 17 février 2013 - 10:43 .

[BizkitRebellion]

I wouldn't say Mass Effect is a DEAD franchise because it still has potential, but the endings did/still cause me to worry about the future of the franchise.

[phillip100]

I don't think the franchise is dead, but I'm hoping that it will make a comeback with their next Mass Effect game.

Modifié par phillip100, 17 février 2013 - 10:31 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Yeah, I'd say the poor handling of ME3--especially the ending--kind of ruined the appeal of the franchise for me. It made me feel like nothing mattered anymore, that the soul of the IP had been thrown out the window for the sake of some last-minute need to make an out-of-place philosophical point.  I can't see Mass Effect regaining its former glory after that.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 17 février 2013 - 10:26 .

[Mazebook]

no..why would it.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Of course not. Most people on here will pre-order the next ME game after a few trailers and screen shots. They just don't want to admit it yet.

[Iakus]

I'm not so sure it's dead yet, but I think it is on life support. The next game will determine if it can recover or not. Frankly I'm shocked they're not shelving the universe for a while so people can forget.

Personally, I think reboot/alternate universe is the only viable path to take. Plenty of people can't even play the old games anymore, knowing where it inevitably leads.

[Mouton_Alpha]

Please. Of course it could be used for decades, providing the circumstances are right.

[Reap_ii]

i used to think i was a die hard fan. then this ending for mass effect 3 made me question. i purchased leviathan, but wont purchase the other dlc's because my hope for an actual change to the endings faded with leviathan. i wont purchase the next ME until after i complete extensive research of gaming reviews posted both professionally and on these forums and other places like youtube, blogs, and the like. but, to answer the question directly...."i...dont know."

[Mouton_Alpha]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Do I think it's a dead franchise? On a personal level and as of right now, I believe it is.

On a personal level, you are posting here one year after the game was released. You can try to ignore the math, but it is there.

[liggy002]

Probably though I would say yes. Time will tell.

[liggy002]

Mouton_Alpha wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Do I think it's a dead franchise? On a personal level and as of right now, I believe it is.

On a personal level, you are posting here one year after the game was released. You can try to ignore the math, but it is there.

Just because he's posting here doesn't mean he's providing financial support to the company and perhaps he is waiting to see what this DLC will bring.

[Clayless]

Nope.

I don't even understand the mentality behind your post OP. Because some people aren't fans it means the franchise is dead? That would be like saying the Star Wars franchise is dead because some people aren't fans of the prequels.

[Konfined]

The ME franchise will continue to exist as long as there are people who would pay to play it. Just like every other cash cow on EA's docket.

[RenatoDep]

It didn't ruin it for me, the ending was indeed very weak, but the franchise as a whole is very strong. I think personally no matter what they did with the ending of the game, people would find something to complain about. But the fact that people still keep coming back to these forums just shows how much of an alive franchise it really is. Obviously this is my personal opinion

[ruggly]

It's probably not dead, though it came close to being so with me. I know better than to pre-order now (I think), and will hopefully have the willpower to wait for reviews.

[AlanC9]

Too early to tell. But if something like this can kill the IP, it deserved to die anyway.

[Huyna]

For as long as rEApers are happy with profit from ME-franchise, series will not stop.

p.s.

 I'm sure we've all heard people say Mass Effect was the Star Trek or Star Wars of our generation.

Always found it puzzling. ME is good, yes, but to compare it with ST, SW, Babylon 5... well, "opinions differ", obviously.

Modifié par Huyna, 17 février 2013 - 10:48 .

[DirtySHISN0]

Don't really want it to be the next star wars; -its a shattered mess that no longer resembles its original self.

Disney does ME6.

no thank you.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 17 février 2013 - 10:37 .

[Mathias]

liggy002 wrote...

Mouton_Alpha wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Do I think it's a dead franchise? On a personal level and as of right now, I believe it is.

On a personal level, you are posting here one year after the game was released. You can try to ignore the math, but it is there.

Just because he's posting here doesn't mean he's providing financial support to the company and perhaps he is waiting to see what this DLC will bring.

Thank you liggy.

[themikefest]

For me bioware is not dead. Far from it. I still play the games and enjoy them. Curious to see what this upcoming dlc will add.

I will continue to buy and play their games. More then likely will pre-order the collectors edition for the next ME game.

[DC111]

Here's the word!. Mark it!.. Carve it in stone!.

The story, mythology, universe that is ME1 and ME2, was so great that I (as well as many others) Proclaimed that it was the best entertainment driven scientific universe available to man (in the same breath if not intellectually better than Star wars) to date. "!".

After playing ME3 my heart sunk to the low disappointing bowls of depth unknown prior to discovery.
I could no longer recommend it as I once have...
I could only say that it was a good ride.. "jump off before the end"


let me put it to you this way.. Star Wars sold for 4 billion dollars (I'm a 40 year old PM.. I understand, from multiple aspects of what this means);
and I thought that at one time the ME universe would one day rival that of Star Wars.

It is beyond functional compression why EA/Bioware would allow this ending (original perception of ME3) to preset without rebuttal or clarification for so long. They have damaged the brand of ME tremendously!

I just hope that they have enough good sense to make it right..... Pride and bad PR advice is a Terribly drug .

Modifié par DC111, 17 février 2013 - 10:42 .

[chemiclord]

I don't think Mass Effect was going to be a giant, long lasting, unforgettable series no matter what. It was a fairly formulaic space opera with fairly general Lovecraft-lite type villains based off of themes and premises of sci-fi's past.

It simply wasn't THAT good, even from the start.

[Mathias]

DC111 wrote...

Here's the word!. Mark it!.. Carve it in stone!.

The story, mythology, universe that is ME1 and ME2, was so great that I (as well as many others) Proclaimed that it was the best entertainment driven scientific universe available to man (in the same breath if not intellectually better than Star wars) to date. "!".

After playing ME3 my heart sunk to the low disappointing bowls of depth unknown prior to discovery.
I could no longer recommend it as I once have...
I could only say that it was a good ride.. "jump off before the end"


let me put it to you this way.. Star Wars sold for 4 billion dollars (I'm a 40 year old PM.. I understand, from multiple aspects of what this means);
and I thought that at one time the ME universe would one day rival that of Star Wars.

It is beyond functional compression why EA/Bioware would allow this ending (original perception of ME3) to preset without rebuttal or clarification for so long. They have damaged the brand of ME tremendously!

I just hope that they have enough good sense to make it right..... Pride and bad PR advice is a Terribly drug .

Noted...

And well said.

[Fixers0]

Well, taking into consideration that Mass Effect 3's pretty much "ended" the Mass Effect universe as it was established and that through the context of Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3 and the various supplemental works it becomes clear that pretty much everything that happens in this universe is directly tied to building up to the inevitable Reaper invansion, it's not that much of a stretch that now that conflict is over, there's nothing left to do in the universe. Surely there is the rebuilding after the war as well as other trivial stuff such as Biotic extremism and racial conlficts, neither of these subjects are really solid cornerstones for new Mass Effect games simply because they aren't directly tied to the heart of the Mass Effect series: The Reapers, The Cycle, AI's, The Mass Relays.

Of course they could reboot the series, and establish another coming galaxy-wide threat (the simplist type of stories). But please don't resovle it in three games and a bunch of non-essential works so that we need to once again reboot the universe.