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#51
Qui-Gon Glenn

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KevWestBeats.com wrote...

He's still the best Vanguard in the game.

I love the big fella.... but really?

AsariGuard and Drellguard torch him on the scoreboard all day long. He is a beast, he's my buddy, he is a tank. 
Well-played Manguard torches him..... VolusVanGod can compete or out-point him.

Just sayin....

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YouAreHorse wrote...

Weapons have a "statistic" that is called "weapon weight".

The"weight" of the weapon will adversely affect cooldown of most powers (exceptions to this are the grenade-type powers, they are not on cooldown per se".

So the heavier weapons you equip your character with, the longer the time before Biotic Charge is ready for use again.

Remember: The shorter cooldown on the kroguard, the more you can charge.
More charging = survivability.

Hope this helps:)

I feel like every single person replying to this thread either can't read or is just plain idiotic.
I'm not talking about the cooldown rate, if  I was, I would of mentioned it. I didn't say it, because this thread is not about that at all.

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If you're not going read what I said then don't reply with something that I either didn't say or blame Lag. When I specifically said on HOST.

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What part of the charge "takes forever"?

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CaballoGallo wrote...

If you're not going read what I said then don't reply with something that I either didn't say or blame Lag. When I specifically said on HOST.


I'm gonna reply that you're high then :P

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Well then i would recommend you get your head checked. That should work. Might not fix it though.

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CaballoGallo wrote...

YouAreHorse wrote...

Weapons have a "statistic" that is called "weapon weight".

The"weight" of the weapon will adversely affect cooldown of most powers (exceptions to this are the grenade-type powers, they are not on cooldown per se".

So the heavier weapons you equip your character with, the longer the time before Biotic Charge is ready for use again.

Remember: The shorter cooldown on the kroguard, the more you can charge.
More charging = survivability.

Hope this helps:)

I feel like every single person replying to this thread either can't read or is just plain idiotic.
I'm not talking about the cooldown rate, if  I was, I would of mentioned it. I didn't say it, because this thread is not about that at all.


Now now, don't be like that when people are trying to help!

Are you sure that you keep your cooldown-bonus around 150%-200%(you can check this on the screen where you equip weapons)?
The kroguards BC(biotic charge) has a tad longer cooldown than other vanguards, so they can really feel the CD(cooldown)-hit from heavier weapons.

Also, some of the weapon-mods add weight! Be sure to pay attention to this when putting mods in your weapons.

Hope this helps:)

ps: don't insult people, that is not how one requests aid;)

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

If anything he has gotten better. He was buffed a while back. His charge has always been that way.l2p

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CaballoGallo wrote...

 Why is it so bad now, even host, It's charge takes forever. It's so slow and it just feels squishy now. 
What the hell happened to it?


Squishy?  My Kroguard solo from last week.  10 waves survived.  With a Disciple.  L2P

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This is a weird question OP but is every class slower? On a few occasions I have had a bug where every single animation my character does from running to spell casts is slower. I have no idea what causes it but its happened on 4 occasions now. Even the time goes slower, I was extracting with 20 seconds left on the timer, the first time it happened I thought I was going insane.

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Kalas321 wrote...

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

If anything he has gotten better. He was buffed a while back. His charge has always been that way.l2p


I know, right=]

We are trying to teach the op how to play, but he is being really rude about it.....

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There's been no change to him.

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CmnDwnWrkn

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I play him on Host a lot and I've seen no change whatsoever with charge or anything else about him.

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Qui-Gon Glenn

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Funniest.thread.evar

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He has always been like that. You probably just played another biotic for a while. Then he feels awfully slow when charging.

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I used to feel dirty using the kroguard, now the ghost has taken that shameful 'refuse to use' class I think I'll whip out the old kroguard again. Might help conserve depleting medigel supplies.

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KevWestBeats.com wrote...

He's still the best Vanguard in the game.


Eh, while this might (!!) be somewhat true with a Reegar (which other Vanguards can use as well), without it, he's really nothing special compared to the Drell and the Slayer, which are both flat out better.

I'm also pretty convinced that I'm doing better with both the Slayer and the Drell than with the Reegar Kroguard. 

On topic, nothing about him has changed (well, besides a big buff), charge has always failed to work at times, maybe this got worse with the patch, but in that case I didn't notice it and it wouldn't be exclusive to the Kroguard.

Modifié par spudspot, 18 février 2013 - 05:28 .


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It's still fun to play but those insta grabs, mid charge elbows, insta grabs and insta grabs, did i mention insta grabs? And this was as host... Oh and charge not working on enemies standing in the middle of a field.. then when you get the most stupid situation where you end up in some corner where you can't escape from charge works.. like wtf..

I mean come on, a Krogan like that lifted up by a banshee.. and becomes helpless? Insta kills should not be possible on a Krogan, specially if you got barrier on and specced for damage reduction, i can stand still for like 20 seconds enemies shooting at me and it barely scratches me... and a Brute/Banshee/Stupid lol bubble praetorian can 'sync kill' me? Not even mentioning the Phantom... a Krogan would take that tooth pick and beat a phantom to death with it or eat the phantom and use that tooth pick as it was ment.

Modifié par SiIencE, 18 février 2013 - 05:46 .


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The OP seems like a nice, relaxed fellow.

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Now that his rage is fixed, he's better than he was before. His BC was always slow but that's due to having the most damaging one in the whole vanguard group, if you went with the power synergy evo on barrier along with max power damage in the passive, you would have the most powerful BC in the game. Having awesome power like that there's gonna be drawbacks.

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Op asks a question, gets a reasonable answer, doesn't like it, calls everyone idiots.

Gotta love bsn sometimes.

Bioware did not sneak Nerf the kroguard. He's the same as always. It's either lag or all in your head.

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SiIencE wrote...

It's still fun to play but those insta grabs, mid charge elbows, insta grabs and insta grabs, did i mention insta grabs? And this was as host... Oh and charge not working on enemies standing in the middle of a field.. then when you get the most stupid situation where you end up in some corner where you can't escape from charge works.. like wtf..

I mean come on, a Krogan like that lifted up by a banshee.. and becomes helpless? Insta kills should not be possible on a Krogan, specially if you got barrier on and specced for damage reduction, i can stand still for like 20 seconds enemies shooting at me and it barely scratches me... and a Brute/Banshee/Stupid lol bubble praetorian can 'sync kill' me? Not even mentioning the Phantom... a Krogan would take that tooth pick and beat a phantom to death with it or eat the phantom and use that tooth pick as it was ment.


I've always had a problem with this myself.  The sync kill rate should not be the same for every character.  Another issue I have - that a Kroguard takes the same time and effort to get a Husk off of him that a Quarian Female Engineer does. :pinched:

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This topic: "Everyone is wrong but me"

Welp, OK

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Personally I didn't find Kroguard's charge really all that different but I usually play off-host so I'm probably dealing with more of a delay when charging then someone on Host.

With that said I did notice that the Kroguard seems a fraction of a bit slower than before but I'm chalking that up to playing as other vanguards for a while and seeing the discrepancy between their charge times.

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CaballoGallo wrote...

If you're not going read what I said then don't reply with something that I either didn't say or blame Lag. When I specifically said on HOST.


Still waiting for your respons on the weapons loadout on your kroguard, but after delving into the problem at hand I came across another possible culprit:

The kroguard has, like any class, three active powers.
One of these powers are marked "Barrier" and has an inherent cooldown penalty when active. The penalty might be quite significant, especially if you carry heavy weapons(they are cumulative, I think!) or equip any of the mods that increase weight.

So be sure to make a note of wether you have "Barrier" activated or not while playing your kroguard!