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[vonSlash]

Zjarcal wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Since I would say the best all around gun would be modless and not carried around on the best DPS classes, Id say the Paladin would be the best, all around utilitarian weapon. If you gotta slap mods on it to make it the best, well then I guess it isn't.

Why the hell would you not use MODS on weapons?!?

It's one thing for people to not want to use equipment, but mods? Seriously?

Weapons that are unusally good unmodded shouldn't matter, but the best weapon in the game should be good with a wide variety of different mod combos and not rely on one specific setup.

[Original Twigman]

vonSlash wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Since I would say the best all around gun would be modless and not carried around on the best DPS classes, Id say the Paladin would be the best, all around utilitarian weapon. If you gotta slap mods on it to make it the best, well then I guess it isn't.

Why the hell would you not use MODS on weapons?!?

It's one thing for people to not want to use equipment, but mods? Seriously?

Weapons that are unusally good unmodded shouldn't matter, but the best weapon in the game should be good with a wide variety of different mod combos and not rely on one specific setup.

there is a difference in relying on a setup and using the best set up...

This is like the "Power classes are better than Weapon classes cuz they don't rely on guns"

lol, why the hell would you not use a powerful gun?

Its a game. I'll use everything I can to my advantage, within the rules. Others can stick to their biased standards.

[Zjarcal]

vonSlash wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Since I would say the best all around gun would be modless and not carried around on the best DPS classes, Id say the Paladin would be the best, all around utilitarian weapon. If you gotta slap mods on it to make it the best, well then I guess it isn't.

Why the hell would you not use MODS on weapons?!?

It's one thing for people to not want to use equipment, but mods? Seriously?

Weapons that are unusally good unmodded shouldn't matter, but the best weapon in the game should be good with a wide variety of different mod combos and not rely on one specific setup.

That's... not the point.

Besides, discussing weapon performance without mods is quite frankly pointless, no one is gonna use them without mods unless they are new at the game (or for the lulz).

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Zjarcal wrote...

vonSlash wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Since I would say the best all around gun would be modless and not carried around on the best DPS classes, Id say the Paladin would be the best, all around utilitarian weapon. If you gotta slap mods on it to make it the best, well then I guess it isn't.

Why the hell would you not use MODS on weapons?!?

It's one thing for people to not want to use equipment, but mods? Seriously?

Weapons that are unusally good unmodded shouldn't matter, but the best weapon in the game should be good with a wide variety of different mod combos and not rely on one specific setup.

That's... not the point.

Besides, discussing weapon performance without mods is quite frankly pointless, no one is gonna use them without mods unless they are new at the game (or for the lulz).

Your missing the point actually, some weapons are great even without mods, Black widow, valiant saber. While some NEED a mod or special ammo just to compete (harrier, all shotguns besides crusader. all SMGs) if you don't put some form of armor piercing on a RoF gun, or pellet shotty, its trash vs armored targets. Your not talking about the best weapon if its only good when you boost it, your talking about a combo.

[mybudgee]

Claymore by a clear margin

[Oggy666]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Your missing the point actually, some weapons are great even without mods, Black widow, valiant saber. While some NEED a mod or special ammo just to compete (harrier, all shotguns besides crusader. all SMGs) if you don't put some form of armor piercing on a RoF gun, or pellet shotty, its trash vs armored targets. Your not talking about the best weapon if its only good when you boost it, your talking about a combo.

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This is about best all around weapon, not best weapon.
It surely isn't Black Widow just because of weight.

And unmodded gun isn't standard for anything, gun with 2 mods and maybe a gear is the lowest for consideration.
Its about gun with good to great performance on every character in any situation.

For me it is CSMG....and clearly Hurricane is better gun, but not as all around gun.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Oggy666 wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Your missing the point actually, some weapons are great even without mods, Black widow, valiant saber. While some NEED a mod or special ammo just to compete (harrier, all shotguns besides crusader. all SMGs) if you don't put some form of armor piercing on a RoF gun, or pellet shotty, its trash vs armored targets. Your not talking about the best weapon if its only good when you boost it, your talking about a combo.

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This is about best all around weapon, not best weapon.
It surely isn't Black Widow just because of weight.

And unmodded gun isn't standard for anything, gun with 2 mods and maybe a gear is the lowest for consideration.
Its about gun with good to great performance on every character in any situation.

For me it is CSMG....and clearly Hurricane is better gun, but not as all around gun.

A few of you guys are missing that I also listed the valiant as a tie with the black widow for #1. The black widow IS the best weapon overall for classes that dont suffer weight problems, for the ones that do, the valiant makes the #1. Both are snipers, both drop shields, both drop armor, both drop barriers, both are pinpoint accurate. (headshots). Both also have absolute range, wherever the crosshairs meet is where your bullet will land when you pull the trigger, hurrican, harrier, they have reticule spread. The saber is close to valiant for performance, but wieght and RoF can't match valiant, same with paladin, although light, rof is very slow and reload speed is slow.

[DarkseidXIII]

is............ Krogan Forehead! RRRaaaawwwwgggghhh!!!!

[kitty209]

mattock, uncommon and same samage as harrier, if you have marksman for fire rate and fast trigger finger/macro/moded controller, its basicly the poor man/woman harrier only hold a bit more ammo

[Soldier86]

On characters where weapon weight is no issue, I still love me some Typhoon. I know the Harrier is popular on the Turian Ghost but tbh I prefer the build I have currently for platinum runs. Totally ignore Overload for a shield/health upgrade. Almost never die even on platinum.

[joker_jack]

mybudgee wrote...

Claymore by a clear margin

nope. wraith by a lightyear.

[GallowsPole]

Zjarcal wrote...

vonSlash wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Since I would say the best all around gun would be modless and not carried around on the best DPS classes, Id say the Paladin would be the best, all around utilitarian weapon. If you gotta slap mods on it to make it the best, well then I guess it isn't.

Why the hell would you not use MODS on weapons?!?

It's one thing for people to not want to use equipment, but mods? Seriously?

Weapons that are unusally good unmodded shouldn't matter, but the best weapon in the game should be good with a wide variety of different mod combos and not rely on one specific setup.

That's... not the point.

Besides, discussing weapon performance without mods is quite frankly pointless, no one is gonna use them without mods unless they are new at the game (or for the lulz).

Post was about all around weapon. If you're going to talk mods, then why stop there? Lets talk kits that would make the weapon even better.

[Dream-Maker]

Wraith, even if it may not be the best weapon for every single character in the game it's still one of the best choices overall and its extremely good damage to weight ratio makes it excellent on any class of the game. Plus it's very easy to hide reloads behind almost any power with it, and most cooldown powers mix well with it's firing cycle.

The Talon comes close and has several advantages over it the Wraith, but the superior single shoot damage of the Wraith makes it better IMO.

[Oggy666]

GallowsPole wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

vonSlash wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Since I would say the best all around gun would be modless and not carried around on the best DPS classes, Id say the Paladin would be the best, all around utilitarian weapon. If you gotta slap mods on it to make it the best, well then I guess it isn't.

Why the hell would you not use MODS on weapons?!?

It's one thing for people to not want to use equipment, but mods? Seriously?

Weapons that are unusally good unmodded shouldn't matter, but the best weapon in the game should be good with a wide variety of different mod combos and not rely on one specific setup.

That's... not the point.

Besides, discussing weapon performance without mods is quite frankly pointless, no one is gonna use them without mods unless they are new at the game (or for the lulz).

Post was about all around weapon. If you're going to talk mods, then why stop there? Lets talk kits that would make the weapon even better.

2 mods + gear, no point talking about unmodded (almost never used weapon)...
and with Paladin, maybe I am mistaken but I feel like its almost useless on bosses (worst UR for me).

[nicethugbert]

Graal, if you are hosting.

[GallowsPole]

If I developed a mod that made my turds smell like roses every time I defecated, are my turds better? They might smell better, but in the end, its still a turd.

[Clips7]

It might not hit that hard, but i love my phaeston X.....great balance and with some ammo mods, it'll do decent damage...

[GallowsPole]

Flaming Snake wrote...

Wraith + HVB + SC

Mkay?

Id still take my Paladin with HB and AP mod. Double the penetration of that Wraith setup which allows me to pretty much kill anything at distance, behind walls. Great on Glacier and shooting from LZ into the lab. Ooooo Guardian across the map, bang dead. Oh another one. Band Dead. Wraith users still waiting for them to come into effective range.

[Ina_srn]

Oooh, a tough one... If i had to pick one gun and have all others taken away... Torn between Paladin and Crusader.
Paladin: light enough for casters, excellent for headshots, good damage output. But can't slap an omni-blade on it so not really good for melee chars as can only offer 25% bonus max.
Crusader: good for headshots, excellent damage, good for melee classes. Too heavy for casters:(
...
Where did my love for automatic guns go?!...

[SirDieAL0t]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

The Talon.

I dare anyone to disagree with an intelligent argument.

cobra !!!