humes spork wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
The story treats his leavetaking as analogous to death.
Which is an interesting case all to its own, consdering any potential outcome of the suicide mission in which Legion "dies" is treated the same, well before the game establishes Legion's identity as actualized. Of course, in those instances its platform and/or runtimes are in fact destroyed, which makes it more a death than what occurs on Priority: Rannoch.
We are told that Legion's independent personality had fully actualized [...] Legion's identity is not metaphorical any longer.
These points do not logically follow, at least in my opinion. Because Legion was then capable of understanding its own gestalt as unique, does not mean it was necessarily a higher order, or more literal, existence. Do minds exist in the physical world? There was still nothing in fact lost when Legion disseminated its runtimes into the consensus. We simply take it on faith what we (and Legion, obviously) know as Legion had intrinsic value beyond the sum of its runtimes, platform, and experiences.
What in fact happens at that point is not interpretation, by the way. It disseminates its runtimes into the consensus to push the update, and its platform shuts down. That's what Legion tells you needs to happen, what does happen, and is corroborated by the geth prime that speaks to you after the fact even as it seems to impart intrinsic value to Legion's "identity".
I don't think this question can be answered. We know our minds exist because, as per Descarte, "I think therefor I exist." The question then is is our mind a spiritual manifestation or a physical manifestation? Is it the collective work of our brain that gives us the ability to have self-awareness or is it spiritual? Or is it both?
These questions applied to Legion's existance are not really answered. We do take on faith that Legion's value is beyond the sum of his individual gestalts. But if we view Legion as a life form, then those individual gestalts and their shared experiences make Legion a distinct entity.
The definition of death is "the end of the life of a person or organism" The definition of organism is "The material structure of an individual" In Legion's case, I suppose it would be "The material structure of 1183 runtimes" Indeed, we are told that the name "Legion" identifies the unique platform in which 1183 geth runtimes operate on.
In Legion's "death" scene, we see his platform shutting down. His runtimes are not shutting down but his platform has ended. Therefor, it was "the end of the life of the platform for 1183 geth runtimes." We constituted that platform as "Legion" Therefor, Legion died, in a physical sense.
Now we have to ask an even more perplexing question.
What defines life? Is it the collective individual 1183 runtimes that gave Legion life? Is this life? Or is his platform not actually living? Is it the individual geth runtimes that are alive? I suppose that you could say that Legion never died because his platform was never actually alive. But if you consider his life as the physical collective of 1183 runtimes, then indeed he died when his collective was disseminated.
I'm not sure if the answer to this question is given in the game.
Modifié par mvaning, 19 février 2013 - 09:50 .
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Legion also uses a piece of Shepard's armor for a "hole". And I don't think Legion would put on a piece of armor that was completely destroyed. So point being. While Shepard obviously have been in terrible condition, there is reason to believe that it wasn't THAT bad - (as in practically being obliterated). 
