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[Eisberg1977]

I'm going to respec Morrigan to be a healer right when I get her.  But I'm not sure how much of a healer I want her to be.  Guess I am looking into her doing healing and also something else, whether DPS, controller, deliberator, support, ect, just not sure which or even if.

Can anyone give me some advice in how to build Morrigan?

My groupd is going to consist of Morrigan, Sten, Lilianna, and Me (warrior tank, Sword and board)

[KhaynOnisaga]

my friend went full healer for morrigan on his ps3 version and he says it works good, just set up her tactics for mainly healing but throw in some dmg or control spells if she gets surrounded easy

[KhaynOnisaga]

shes already got the basic attacks to support her healing so just focus on what you want for healing and set the tactics up to flow with it

[bas273]

Give her:

- All Healing spells

- All Spirit Healer spells

- Winter's Grasp + Frost Weapons + Cone of Cold

- Mind Blast + Force Field + Telekinetic Weapons (when fighting Revenants/bosses!) + Crushing Prison

- Mana Clash (enemy spellcasters)

- Hexes/glyphs/your choice

[Cybercat999]

I have all healing and rejuvenation spells, full SH line and Heroic including Haste on her. The only offensive spell I gave her is Mana Clash and using that one on mages is high on her tactics priorities.

Then I made her into AW and set her up with as much resistances/armor I could without hurting her with fatigue. I raised her will pretty high too so she doesnt chug on pots that much (tho she has that at will when she gets to <10% mana).



I am not sure how would CoC work in tactics, it can be pretty tricky.

[Akimb0]

I'd go with the entire "Heal" line, Spirit Healer up to Revival and perhaps the enhancement line. However I think I'd prefer debuffing with Entropy spells to buffing with Enhancement (Plus you have a Bard.). Then the cold line up to Cone of Cold. Everything else you could cherry pick to suit how you play.

Modifié par Akimb0, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:44 .

[Cybercat999]

Hexes are huge aggro magnet, I rather avoid that on NPC I dont control. Besides I respecced Leli out of bard as well and I am not sorry about that, she is really good for me now.

[Admiralce]

My morrigan got only Group Heal. I use her as crowded control, like Sleep and Waking Nightmare and Hex, too.

[Mr_Raider]

Admiralce wrote...

My morrigan got only Group Heal. I use her as crowded control, like Sleep and Waking Nightmare and Hex, too.

that's a viable option. Take the heal line to regen, and only the first SH spell. It's a nice option.

[SusanStoHelit]

I prefer only the first in Heal and then the whole Spirit Healer line - but that suits my playing style. I like entropy on Morrigan, especially the Sleep and Draining lines. The Telekinesis line is great too, as is the Glyphs line.

Edit: I love the Hex line for bosses, but generally give it to an AW.

Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 10 janvier 2010 - 10:39 .

[Sumkawps]

Eisberg1977 wrote...

I'm going to respec Morrigan to be a healer right when I get her.  But I'm not sure how much of a healer I want her to be.  Guess I am looking into her doing healing and also something else, whether DPS, controller, deliberator, support, ect, just not sure which or even if.

Can anyone give me some advice in how to build Morrigan?

My groupd is going to consist of Morrigan, Sten, Lilianna, and Me (warrior tank, Sword and board)

Some simple tips/considerations:

• If you want a heal +buffer/debuffer with occasional CC + DpS, you might want to build a bit like Wynne (i.e. invest in tactical slots and willpower).  For the willpower thing, remember that Wynne gets extra Will through approval rating, while Morrigan gets Magic.  On the other hand, you can always chug pots if she will be your only Mage;
• Consider range - Cone of Cold is great, but short range - do you want your healer near the mobs, or will you use longer range CC, or get your CC from traps instead;
• Mind Blast line is exceptionally good for a Healer in your group set-up, as Mind Blast is defence and an aggro dump, TK weapons is great with your two (maybe 3?) melee, and Force Field is the best single target CC available, bar none;
• Get Spell Wisp, whatever else you get;
• Try for one AoE CC, whatever your eventual build.

[TheMufflon]

Eisberg1977 wrote...
My groupd is going to consist of Morrigan, Sten, Lilianna, and Me (warrior tank, Sword and board)

IMO that group doesn't need healing, it needs more damage output.

[Cybercat999]

TheMufflon wrote...

Eisberg1977 wrote...
My groupd is going to consist of Morrigan, Sten, Lilianna, and Me (warrior tank, Sword and board)

IMO that group doesn't need healing, it needs more damage output.

Not really, if you set Leliana properly she is great dps. In my game now she is doing 38% party damage without any control over her, I play without pause only my PC. You can respec her as well and my suggestion would be to get tactics mods.
Sten can do some nice damage too if set/equipped decently.

Modifié par Cybercat999, 11 janvier 2010 - 05:38 .

[TheMufflon]

A warrior wielding a 2 handed weapon is always going to do less damage than a properly set dual wielder or mage.

Though my point isn't so much that your damage output is going to be low, as much as it is that your need for healing will be even lower. With a PC warrior tanking I've found that hardly any damage gets through to other party members, and with a high enough Con and Dex and enough stuns and knockdowns your warrior will hardly take any damage at all. Thus you don't need healing, which means that your need for damage is higher than your need for healing.

Also, pointing out that Leliana does 38% of your party damage doesn't actually say anything about your party's total damage output.

Modifié par TheMufflon, 11 janvier 2010 - 06:17 .

[Cybercat999]

If we go respeccing route what stops you to make Sten into dual wielder?.

I am lazy to log and check my total party damage output but my fights last pretty short, I can wipe whites with Blood Wound only at this point.

Of course, I could run around without a healer but I find it fun to have and set tactics for one.

[RobotXYZ]

I build her without respec mod so maybe I'd change some things if I had respec. But here's what I did with her vanilla game..



8 Cone of cold

9 Heal

10 Mana drain

Tome Mana whatever

Tome Spell Might

Note: at level 10 I afforded the tomes due to getting herbalism 4 and using the potent lyrium exploit

11 Mana Clash

12 Blizzard

13 Shock Cone

14 Lightning Storm (now storm of century)

Becomes Spirit Healer

15 Group Heal

16 Sleep

17 Waking Nightmare

18 Revival

19 Life Ward



Some of the names for spells might be off but I hope you know which spells I am speaking of

[Sylvius the Mad]

I don't like the respec mod because it doesn't make sense to me that someone could unlearn a skill like that.

However, the No Auto-Level mod (where every companion you get has no allocated stat points or skill or talents chosen) is wonderful. I like Sten dual-wielding.

But with Morrigan, the only change I generally make is to avoid spending a talent on Shapeshifting.

[Cybercat999]

You dont need a mod to stop auto-leveling, just turn it off.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Cybercat999 wrote...

You dont need a mod to stop auto-leveling, just turn it off.

You need a mod to stop the companions from being levelled up to your level when you meet them.  The no Auto-Level mod sets all the companions to level 1 when you meet them so you can choose all their talents from the start.

[Cybercat999]

Ah so. Sorry, didnt get it at first.

[dkjestrup]

For a Healer, take the Mass Rejuv line, Spirit Healer up to Lifeward, the Glyph Line, then whatever you want. You will have about 15 or so spells left. I'd get Blizzard, Tempest, Virulent Walking Bomb, Force Field, Sleep. You don't really need Crushing Prison/Telek weapons. Crushing Prison is just Forcefield with damage, but to be honest, it doesn't add much of a tactical advantage.

[Br0th3rGr1mm]

I have yet to figure out the attraction of playing a Tank PC

[Cybercat999]

Br0th3rGr1mm wrote...

I have yet to figure out the attraction of playing a Tank PC

Aggro management. Can be very interesting.

[flagondotcom]

dkjestrup wrote...
You don't really need Crushing Prison/Telek weapons. Crushing Prison is just Forcefield with damage, but to be honest, it doesn't add much of a tactical advantage.

Wha wha wha?

Cone of Cold is (even after 1.02 patch) the most crucial spell in the game.   After the 1.02 nerf Crushing Prison doesn't keep people frozen as long, but it still shatters white bad guys who've been frozen/petrified, and it also can be applied at range to keep mages etc. under control.  I use it *all* the time (when not on cooldown) and I simply don't understand the statement that it "doesn't add much of a tactical advantage".