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[Alex Arterius]

Am I alone on this?

I found the squad pretty boring to say the least... minus Garrus, Liara and Javik really.

One thing I really liked about ME2 was all the awesome characters and i loved to do new play throughs using different charcters on different missions to hear what they had to say.

On ME3 i'm seriously limited on options though, EDI and James are completely uninteresting and the Virmire Survivor and Tali can hardly be held up to the likes of Mordin and Legion.

Anyone else think more squad mates should have been included + more interesting ones?

[o Ventus]

Some of the ME2 cast should have came back. Samara, Grunt, and Miranda have zero reason for not joining.

[fiendishchicken]

That's one reason. Another thing is that you never really get a different perspective on anything.

It's all so vanilla.

Javik is the only one that really qualifies. EDI was best as the talking blue vagina. James was ok as well, and Kaidan had an insightful moment or too.

Everyone else (Garrus, Tali, Liara) I'd replace.

I'd take Ashley if I could actually get some decent debating with her (nature of Cerberus, trolling her, telling her that our romance is over in a mean way...)

[DeinonSlayer]

Not really, no.

Javik is awesome. Garrus and Tali are must-have. James has funny moments. On subsequent playthroughs, I've actually found the talks with EDI very interesting, even if I have little use for her as a squadmate (and despise the character design).

Mix things up with her. Discourage her relationship with Joker, or push the "synthetics are machines" path. Her character development responds nicely. She may come out incessantly altruistic, she may only be on our side in the interest of self-preservation (it's rather alarming how quickly she reshapes her personality). She may view herself outside the Normandy's rank structure; unbound by it. Or, you might guide her to have a more balanced persona. Many directions. A shame she was the Catalyst's hostage in the end.

But yeah... both VS and Liara are boring, at least to me.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 18 février 2013 - 07:53 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

ME1 had the same number of squad mates. Why would it affect the replay value?

The characters seems to be affected by many more variables in 3 than they did in 2.

[Battlebloodmage]

I like both ME2 and ME3 squad, and while I like ME3 squad better, ME2 has more characters I can stand. In ME3, I hate James, Garrus, Tali, and Liara. My favorite squadmate is EDI, but I would just alternate between EDI, Kaidan, and Javik. In ME2, I have more choices in who I bring.

[Neria Rose]

I have all I need in Garrus, Javik, and James. And if I want to mix it up more, there's Tali and Kaidan. Works for me (though I wouldn't be opposed to getting Kasumi back).

[Mcfly616]

Nope. I don't have a problem with it. My favorite squadmates were the ME1 crew. Seeing as how I get almost all of them back in ME3 (plus Javik) I'm surprised I haven't lost count of how many playthroughs I have at this point.

Seems like I just start a new one right after finishing.....or I just go back to the start again and play through the entire trilogy.


Though, as much as I'm a fan of all 3 games.....ME2 is my least favorite for a reason (and its squadmates don't help its cause). Maybe that's why I'm happy with ME3

[Vlk3]

Did the mainly uninteresting squad/overall lack of squad mates ruin the replay value for me?
Yes, it did. As for ME1 - well, there's a reason why I have more playthroughs of ME2. Although at least everyone was interesting for me in ME1, and in ME3 not so much. EDI was good as a ship, but as a squadmate... boring and weak. James - well, I hate him and I think even Jacob was more interesting. How many times can one go through the game having Liara, Garrus, Tali and VS in the squad? Javik is the only bright spot here. Imagine how great would that game be if there was a mix of ME2 and ME1 squad in the final part. I know that expecting everyone to come back would be too much, but at least ME2 LI's could make it into the ME3 squad. But no, we have to come back to ME1 squad with a poor addition of EDI and Vega.

[Yate]

prothean avatar, quarian admiral, asari shadow broker, N7 candidate, unshackled AI, spectre, Garrus

lol

I'm sick of these hipsters that invent things to complain about.

also lol @ 'I hate the whole squad except for half of it' in the OP

[clarkusdarkus]

The game being mediocre is the reason i didnt do a 2nd playthrough

[Nightwriter]

Yep. Ruined it. I don't care about number of squadmates, just wish the team hadn't been so disappointing. I'd've been fine with it if they had given my faves some Mordin-like treatment where appropriate, but they dumped everyone but him and Legion content-wise.

Haven't replayed the game sense.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 18 février 2013 - 08:10 .

[AdmiralCheez]

I'd say ME3's squad is about as engaging as ME1's (actually, it basically IS ME1's). I wish Miranda was on it and James had a little more character development, but it's not bad.

You know what really killed the replay value for me, though? Dat ending.

[Yate]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

The game being mediocre is the reason i didnt do a 2nd playthrough

omg guiz look at this dude he hates me3 yet posts in the forums to complain he's such a rebel

[Yate]

squad is better than me1/2

it actually feels like you're bringing different PEOPLE into combat, instead of just extra powers

ME1 was the worst, but ME2, for all the squadmates, they all felt identical.

you had biotic crowd control (Jack/Samara/Thane)

anti-shield/armour/barrier (Miranda/Garrus/Mordin/Kasumi)

techs (Tali/Legion)

and tanks (Grunt/Zaeed/Jacob)

Modifié par Yate, 18 février 2013 - 08:22 .

[Mcfly616]

Yate wrote...

prothean avatar, quarian admiral, asari shadow broker, N7 candidate, unshackled AI, spectre, Garrus

lol

I'm sick of these hipsters that invent things to complain about.

also lol @ 'I hate the whole squad except for half of it' in the OP

+1

[CynicalShep]

I wouldn't say that the ME3 squad is the reason for reduced replay value. In fact, it wasn't all that bad - Javik was interesting. EDI was not bad (except her new body was a little "extreme"). Main problem is that a lot of the ME2 characters got shoved under the rug and most of them were interesting enough not to warrant such treatment.

ME3 had many issues (imho) and this is but one of them. Not the main reason but definitely part of it.

[Yate]

CynicalShep wrote...

I wouldn't say that the ME3 squad is the reason for reduced replay value. In fact, it wasn't all that bad - Javik was interesting. EDI was not bad (except her new body was a little "extreme"). Main problem is that a lot of the ME2 characters got shoved under the rug and most of them were interesting enough not to warrant such treatment.

ME3 had many issues (imho) and this is but one of them. Not the main reason but definitely part of it.

yeah yeah, just like when ME2 came out and all you people wanted was the old squad

same old same old

[TurianRebel212]

This and the, shall we say, less than stellar endings.

But yes, 6 squad mates and most of them are lame and forced. Liara, James and Edi. Javik and Garrus are the best. But Javik and Garrus wouldn't even be in the top 3 if you compare them with ME2 squadies. Tali is always awesome. And I really like Liara, but she is a bit of a creeper.

ME1- 6 squadies, ME2 12 squad mates, ME3 6 squad mates. I'm sure we can find a middle ground, say 10. The 6 that are given now in ME3 and then 4 optional surviving squad mates from ME2- including a romance- so 3 that the player picks. That would bring it to 10.

I would pick Miri (romance), Thane, Legion and Grunt.

[o Ventus]

Yate wrote...

prothean avatar, quarian admiral, asari shadow broker, N7 candidate, unshackled AI, spectre, Garrus

lol

I'm sick of these hipsters that invent things to complain about.
 

Yah, who the hell do people think they are, disliking something?

[spirosz]

Nightwriter wrote...

Yep. Ruined it. I don't care about number of squadmates, just wish the team hadn't been so disappointing. I'd've been fine with it if they had given my faves some Mordin-like treatment where appropriate, but they dumped everyone but him and Legion content-wise.

Haven't replayed the game sense.

Modifié par spirosz, 18 février 2013 - 08:27 .

[spirosz]

Yate wrote...

squad is better than me1/2

it actually feels like you're bringing different PEOPLE into combat, instead of just extra powers

ME1 was the worst, but ME2, for all the squadmates, they all felt identical.

you had biotic crowd control (Jack/Samara/Thane)

anti-shield/armour/barrier (Miranda/Garrus/Mordin/Kasumi)

techs (Tali/Legion)

and tanks (Grunt/Zaeed/Jacob)

Hey look at you, being opinionated, are we not allowed to express the same?  

"Better than 1 & 2" Oh hey, didn't know you spoke for everyone, but yourself.  

Please.   Calling people who dislike the squad "complainers" 

[CynicalShep]

Yate wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

I wouldn't say that the ME3 squad is the reason for reduced replay value. In fact, it wasn't all that bad - Javik was interesting. EDI was not bad (except her new body was a little "extreme"). Main problem is that a lot of the ME2 characters got shoved under the rug and most of them were interesting enough not to warrant such treatment.

ME3 had many issues (imho) and this is but one of them. Not the main reason but definitely part of it.

yeah yeah, just like when ME2 came out and all you people wanted was the old squad

same old same old

If you paint everyone with the same brush you might as well paint yourself with it. I like the ME2 squad better than the ME1 squad. A walking codex, a whiny ex-cop, a nihilistic merc, a horny-but-shy scientist, and the two complementary human LIs. Please

B*tching about b*tching is counter-productive. 

Modifié par CynicalShep, 18 février 2013 - 08:31 .

[Nerevar-as]

CynicalShep wrote...

Yate wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

I wouldn't say that the ME3 squad is the reason for reduced replay value. In fact, it wasn't all that bad - Javik was interesting. EDI was not bad (except her new body was a little "extreme"). Main problem is that a lot of the ME2 characters got shoved under the rug and most of them were interesting enough not to warrant such treatment.

ME3 had many issues (imho) and this is but one of them. Not the main reason but definitely part of it.

yeah yeah, just like when ME2 came out and all you people wanted was the old squad

same old same old

If you paint everyone with the same brush you might as well paint yourself with it. I like the ME2 squad better than the ME1 squad. A walking codex, a whiny ex-cop, a nihilistic merc, a horny-but-shy scientist, and the two complementary human LIs. Please

B*tching about b*tching is counter-productive. 

Vs a psychopath, a savage, a thug, a fangirl, a murderer, a lawful stupid huntress, a thief with severe mourning issues, a whiny design baby, a vigilante, an utterly boring guy, a cold genius and another fanboy. So yeah, you are kind of right.

And what we wanted was a better treatment of ME1 LIs. They went through severe derailment which ended up bringing nothing in ME3. The VI didn´t even get a DLC to fix issues.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 18 février 2013 - 08:39 .