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[txgoldrush]

This is Tali's characterization in ME1....the talking codex entry. This was old school Bioware's problem, all tell, no show. Why show the Migrant Fleet in ME1 when you can have a talking codex entry thats a squaddie explain it to you.



And wow has the VA for Tali improved in ME2 and ME3.

[Addictress]

john-in-france wrote...

I missed Thane.

There was no reason to leave him out, as the characterisation from ME2 could have been taken into account. If you were just friends with him, he was still fatalistic and expecting to die (pretty much the scenario played out in ME3). However if you romanced him then he wanted to live.

The difference: During Shepards incarceration friend Thane survives by a thread, but is too ill to join you in ME3. Whereas LI Thane had a lung transplant ( mentioned as a possibility in LoTSB) and can join Shepard again.

They could still have him take on Kai Leng during Citadel II, but then it would have felt more like Virmire, or if you succeeded in saving Kirrahe, then Kirrahe could have snuffed it, leaving Thane alive.

They pretty much screwed the romance and characterisation. 48% of female players romanced Thane. He came in joint second, tying with Kaidan in Bioware Stats (Garrus came first).

The Life Support room remains empty, suggesting that someone was actually meant to be recruited and on the squad, that got written out due to the script leak.

Yes I'd support some romance development for the ME2 characters. However I think that Kaidan, Garrus and Liara all have enough already. Maybe the Citadel DLC will help, maybe not.

.... Oh my god. If there is going to be a Citadel DLC that gives Thane a chance to survive, I will drown in a vat of melted Nutella right now.

[avenging_teabag]

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Not really, no.

The moronic plot, poor writing, autodialogue, everyone in the game being suddenly retarded, the unbearable insults my Shepard suffered in the end, all prevented me from touching ME3 ever again. The squadmates being less colorful than in ME3 is a very minor concern. I actually liked Vega.

Look at ME1.....the entire Conduit thing was stupid...nevermind Shepard was an Ultima IX avatar retard in many places in ME1.

I rather have autodialogue than "stupid PC syndrome" that ME1 Shepard has.

Don't you try bring down ME1 to uphold this piece of relentless derp they call "conclusion to the epic trilogy". It won't fly.

ME1's plot was air-tight, by space opera standards, save for an occasional gaffe (english speaking citadel, Tali's quest and the like). Nothing plot-breaking though, and nothing that even compares to ME3's mountains of stupid.

Please.....ME1 was deus ex machina fest with very little character development with the worst script in the series, with a Shepard so retarded he compares the treatment of humans to the genophage in front of Wrex and can ask if Joker's disease is contagious. Nevermind Saren's search for the Conduit is utterly ridicoulous. Nevermind the Biowarian dark side where the writers are confused with what Renegade really is, stupidily making some parts evil. Please the phrase in which Shepard kills the Rachni queen is maybe the most laugable line in the entire series nevermind Benezia making Kai Leng look like an amazing villian.

Worst script in the series? LOL, gtfo, we're done here.

Renegade Shepard in ME1 takes the cake.....always whining about humans getting the shaft and then trying to act badass. Easily the worst dialogue in the series, especially Shepard.

Please spare me. There's debating opinions, and there is conversing with a person who plainly has no idea what he/she is taking about. Or maybe trolling. Either way, like i said, we're done here.

[Asch Lavigne]

I had no problem with the small amount of squadmates in ME3. ME2 had way too many. What do I need all those people for? After like a dozen playthroughs I have never used half of them unless the game makes me. I was happier to have a smaller squad, most of which were characters I had already known.

[txgoldrush]

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Not really, no.

The moronic plot, poor writing, autodialogue, everyone in the game being suddenly retarded, the unbearable insults my Shepard suffered in the end, all prevented me from touching ME3 ever again. The squadmates being less colorful than in ME3 is a very minor concern. I actually liked Vega.

Look at ME1.....the entire Conduit thing was stupid...nevermind Shepard was an Ultima IX avatar retard in many places in ME1.

I rather have autodialogue than "stupid PC syndrome" that ME1 Shepard has.

Don't you try bring down ME1 to uphold this piece of relentless derp they call "conclusion to the epic trilogy". It won't fly.

ME1's plot was air-tight, by space opera standards, save for an occasional gaffe (english speaking citadel, Tali's quest and the like). Nothing plot-breaking though, and nothing that even compares to ME3's mountains of stupid.

Please.....ME1 was deus ex machina fest with very little character development with the worst script in the series, with a Shepard so retarded he compares the treatment of humans to the genophage in front of Wrex and can ask if Joker's disease is contagious. Nevermind Saren's search for the Conduit is utterly ridicoulous. Nevermind the Biowarian dark side where the writers are confused with what Renegade really is, stupidily making some parts evil. Please the phrase in which Shepard kills the Rachni queen is maybe the most laugable line in the entire series nevermind Benezia making Kai Leng look like an amazing villian.

Worst script in the series? LOL, gtfo, we're done here.

Renegade Shepard in ME1 takes the cake.....always whining about humans getting the shaft and then trying to act badass. Easily the worst dialogue in the series, especially Shepard.

Please spare me. There's debating opinions, and there is conversing with a person who plainly has no idea what he/she is taking about. Or maybe trolling. Either way, like i said, we're done here.

No, you refuse to take the nostalgia glasses off...ME1 wasn't as good as you think it is.

Please, asking Joker if he is contagious is really retarded, but thats what Renegad Shep does in ME1.

[tonnactus]

The squadmates of Mass Effect3 actually deserve to be called characters.The Mass Effect 2 one
were just puppets that barely talked with eachother.That game hadbasecly had next to zero squadbanter
and no teambuilding at all.
Even Mass Effect 1 had more with its elevator conversation.

[john-in-france]

txgoldrush wrote...

Reject Thane in ME2 in the romance cabin scene....you will find out the truth of his worries. Thane is afraid of losing Shepard.



Nevermind that in ME3, he goes out a hero.

Different romance types. For instance Renegade Shepard: If she does not use the 'just friends huh?' line, the romance ends there. Paragon Shepard can chose 'Look after your son', and Thane then chases her. It surprised me the first time I played it through...Most of my Shepards romanced Thane, so I am well aware of the dialogue.

I'm not saying that Thane did not go out a hero (though the death scene could have been better for romanced Thane). I'm am saying that his character development in ME2 suggested that there could be options in ME3.

Sadly most of ME3 seems to assume Renegade Shepard, even down to Jokers cynical remark about 'hanging up' on the Council, which of course Paragon Shepard never did. In the original leaked script for ME3 Thane played a greater part.

[fiendishchicken]

As I've said, if I could have it my way for my game, only two characters in ME3 would be on my team: James and Javik.

Hell, those two plus Joker, Cortez, and Dr. Michel would be the only characters on the Normandy for me that are presently in my game.

The ME1 and ME3 group is not my team. They're just people I ended up with.

The ME2 squad was my team, my team that I established and won the loyalty of, the team I took on a suicide mission and lived. My dream team.

Unsurprisingly, Garrus and Tali are the 3rd wheels of that team. Especially Tali.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 19 février 2013 - 09:54 .

[David7204]

I'm not sure if there's any way Thane could be saved without it coming off as silly.

[avenging_teabag]

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Not really, no.

The moronic plot, poor writing, autodialogue, everyone in the game being suddenly retarded, the unbearable insults my Shepard suffered in the end, all prevented me from touching ME3 ever again. The squadmates being less colorful than in ME3 is a very minor concern. I actually liked Vega.

Look at ME1.....the entire Conduit thing was stupid...nevermind Shepard was an Ultima IX avatar retard in many places in ME1.

I rather have autodialogue than "stupid PC syndrome" that ME1 Shepard has.

Don't you try bring down ME1 to uphold this piece of relentless derp they call "conclusion to the epic trilogy". It won't fly.

ME1's plot was air-tight, by space opera standards, save for an occasional gaffe (english speaking citadel, Tali's quest and the like). Nothing plot-breaking though, and nothing that even compares to ME3's mountains of stupid.

Please.....ME1 was deus ex machina fest with very little character development with the worst script in the series, with a Shepard so retarded he compares the treatment of humans to the genophage in front of Wrex and can ask if Joker's disease is contagious. Nevermind Saren's search for the Conduit is utterly ridicoulous. Nevermind the Biowarian dark side where the writers are confused with what Renegade really is, stupidily making some parts evil. Please the phrase in which Shepard kills the Rachni queen is maybe the most laugable line in the entire series nevermind Benezia making Kai Leng look like an amazing villian.

Worst script in the series? LOL, gtfo, we're done here.

Renegade Shepard in ME1 takes the cake.....always whining about humans getting the shaft and then trying to act badass. Easily the worst dialogue in the series, especially Shepard.

Please spare me. There's debating opinions, and there is conversing with a person who plainly has no idea what he/she is taking about. Or maybe trolling. Either way, like i said, we're done here.

No, you refuse to take the nostalgia glasses off...ME1 wasn't as good as you think it is.

Please, asking Joker if he is contagious is really retarded, but thats what Renegad Shep does in ME1.

The ReneShep is plainly joking when he asks this - he's a trollish assh8le who doesn't give a sh*t about people's feelings. You're not even capable of grasping that. And there's no nostalgia - I played ME1 less than a year before the 3rd game dropped (yes, i'm a late comer), so I see all its faults plainly - plot holes are not one of them.

Anyway, why do you insist n continuing this conversation? The topic of the thread is whether a relatively mundane squad selection of ME3 affected its replay value. For me, it didn't, because the replay value of that game is pretty much zero. I don't know why you even brought ME1 up at all. 

For the third time, we're done here.

Modifié par avenging_teabag, 19 février 2013 - 10:01 .

[txgoldrush]

john-in-france wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Reject Thane in ME2 in the romance cabin scene....you will find out the truth of his worries. Thane is afraid of losing Shepard.



Nevermind that in ME3, he goes out a hero.

Different romance types. For instance Renegade Shepard: If she does not use the 'just friends huh?' line, the romance ends there. Paragon Shepard can chose 'Look after your son', and Thane then chases her. It surprised me the first time I played it through...Most of my Shepards romanced Thane, so I am well aware of the dialogue.

I'm not saying that Thane did not go out a hero (though the death scene could have been better for romanced Thane). I'm am saying that his character development in ME2 suggested that there could be options in ME3.

Sadly most of ME3 seems to assume Renegade Shepard, even down to Jokers cynical remark about 'hanging up' on the Council, which of course Paragon Shepard never did. In the original leaked script for ME3 Thane played a greater part.

However, ME3 does address a romaced Thane....Thane does say "I picked a bad time to leave". There is a sense of worry here. He did not want to leave, but je accepts it than prays for her.

The only problem here is the crews reaction, or lack thereof, but this is mechanical. Thane never dies in an actually mission, but on the side and the Normandy crew sets itself in a specific state after a specific mission. Thane dies outside a mission so he isn't addressed.

[john-in-france]

Addictress wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

I missed Thane.

There was no reason to leave him out, as the characterisation from ME2 could have been taken into account. If you were just friends with him, he was still fatalistic and expecting to die (pretty much the scenario played out in ME3). However if you romanced him then he wanted to live.

The difference: During Shepards incarceration friend Thane survives by a thread, but is too ill to join you in ME3. Whereas LI Thane had a lung transplant ( mentioned as a possibility in LoTSB) and can join Shepard again.

They could still have him take on Kai Leng during Citadel II, but then it would have felt more like Virmire, or if you succeeded in saving Kirrahe, then Kirrahe could have snuffed it, leaving Thane alive.

They pretty much screwed the romance and characterisation. 48% of female players romanced Thane. He came in joint second, tying with Kaidan in Bioware Stats (Garrus came first).

The Life Support room remains empty, suggesting that someone was actually meant to be recruited and on the squad, that got written out due to the script leak.

Yes I'd support some romance development for the ME2 characters. However I think that Kaidan, Garrus and Liara all have enough already. Maybe the Citadel DLC will help, maybe not.

.... Oh my god. If there is going to be a Citadel DLC that gives Thane a chance to survive, I will drown in a vat of melted Nutella right now.

The latest leaks suggest that the new Citadel DLC will have scenes which add to the ME2 LI arcs. I'm keeping my fingers crossed...

I can even accept the cr4ppy death by Kai Leng...if they gave us some real closure. Death by Nutella

[DirtyPhoenix]

Loaded question is loaded. A better question should be whether you liked the new ME3 squad or not. To which I answer yep.

ME3's characters and Normandy felt alive. the characters converse with each other, visit each other and move about the Normandy. Their dialogs change taking into account the latest missions..I lost count of these pleasant little moments when I'd visit Liara's cabin for example, and see Garrus sharing a cup of tea with her. Or Wrex talking to Garrus on intercom. Or Legion contacting Garrus on his "calibrations". These characters also get out of the ship and can be found visiting the Citadel areas when the ship docks there. And then there's Javik the trollmaster. Drunk Tali's convo with him was just hilarious. He is also unique in the sense that he doesn't bend over backward to kiss Shep's ass. He says some uncomfortable words that Shepard fumbles with. I really like all the new ME3 additions -EXCEPT-Allers and EDI's new body.

ME2's characters are cardboard cutouts who stay at a place and say a set few lines no matter what you do and where you take them. It's like they've been condemned to stay in one room or something..

[txgoldrush]

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Not really, no.

The moronic plot, poor writing, autodialogue, everyone in the game being suddenly retarded, the unbearable insults my Shepard suffered in the end, all prevented me from touching ME3 ever again. The squadmates being less colorful than in ME3 is a very minor concern. I actually liked Vega.

Look at ME1.....the entire Conduit thing was stupid...nevermind Shepard was an Ultima IX avatar retard in many places in ME1.

I rather have autodialogue than "stupid PC syndrome" that ME1 Shepard has.

Don't you try bring down ME1 to uphold this piece of relentless derp they call "conclusion to the epic trilogy". It won't fly.

ME1's plot was air-tight, by space opera standards, save for an occasional gaffe (english speaking citadel, Tali's quest and the like). Nothing plot-breaking though, and nothing that even compares to ME3's mountains of stupid.

Please.....ME1 was deus ex machina fest with very little character development with the worst script in the series, with a Shepard so retarded he compares the treatment of humans to the genophage in front of Wrex and can ask if Joker's disease is contagious. Nevermind Saren's search for the Conduit is utterly ridicoulous. Nevermind the Biowarian dark side where the writers are confused with what Renegade really is, stupidily making some parts evil. Please the phrase in which Shepard kills the Rachni queen is maybe the most laugable line in the entire series nevermind Benezia making Kai Leng look like an amazing villian.

Worst script in the series? LOL, gtfo, we're done here.

Renegade Shepard in ME1 takes the cake.....always whining about humans getting the shaft and then trying to act badass. Easily the worst dialogue in the series, especially Shepard.

Please spare me. There's debating opinions, and there is conversing with a person who plainly has no idea what he/she is taking about. Or maybe trolling. Either way, like i said, we're done here.

No, you refuse to take the nostalgia glasses off...ME1 wasn't as good as you think it is.

Please, asking Joker if he is contagious is really retarded, but thats what Renegad Shep does in ME1.

The ReneShep is plainly joking when he asks this - he's a trollish assh8le who doesn't give a sh*t about people's feelings. You're not even capable of grasping that. And there's no nostalgia - I played ME1 less than a year before the 3rd game dropped (yes, i'm a late comer), so I see all its faults plainly.

Anyway, why do you insist n continuing this conversation? The topic of the thread is whether a relatively mundane squad selection of ME3 affected its replay value. For me, it didn't. I don't know why you even brought ME1 up at all. 

For the third time, we're done here.

No he wasn't, he was being a ******. And his questions with Liara about the asari are idiotic as well. Military officers should know things like this.

"he's a trollish assh8le who doesn't give a sh*t about people's feelings"

and here lies the problem of Renegade Shepard in the first two games....it was not about being nice or being mean...its about taking the ideal choice or the practical one. But "Biowarian dark side" creeps in, and distorts the morality system. It turns what should be grey, to black and white.

ME3 fixes the problem, the script of Renegade Shepard is miles better than the first two games. Its no longer the jerkass, but the realist who does care about those around him, but is willing to not only lose them but himself in the end to save the galaxy. Its not about being a badass Tarantino style.....this is what the first two games did wrong with Renegade Shep.

[L2 Sentinel]

Computer issues last night. Ignore this post.

Modifié par Rauhel, 19 février 2013 - 09:51 .

[Addictress]

The developers must have seen the stats showing all my youtube views of Thane romance vids

[john-in-france]

txgoldrush wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Reject Thane in ME2 in the romance cabin scene....you will find out the truth of his worries. Thane is afraid of losing Shepard.



Nevermind that in ME3, he goes out a hero.

Different romance types. For instance Renegade Shepard: If she does not use the 'just friends huh?' line, the romance ends there. Paragon Shepard can chose 'Look after your son', and Thane then chases her. It surprised me the first time I played it through...Most of my Shepards romanced Thane, so I am well aware of the dialogue.

I'm not saying that Thane did not go out a hero (though the death scene could have been better for romanced Thane). I'm am saying that his character development in ME2 suggested that there could be options in ME3.

Sadly most of ME3 seems to assume Renegade Shepard, even down to Jokers cynical remark about 'hanging up' on the Council, which of course Paragon Shepard never did. In the original leaked script for ME3 Thane played a greater part.

However, ME3 does address a romaced Thane....Thane does say "I picked a bad time to leave". There is a sense of worry here. He did not want to leave, but je accepts it than prays for her.

The only problem here is the crews reaction, or lack thereof, but this is mechanical. Thane never dies in an actually mission, but on the side and the Normandy crew sets itself in a specific state after a specific mission. Thane dies outside a mission so he isn't addressed.

I think what upset me most was the lack of closure or even a real feeling of the romance between them in ME3. In LoTSB we get to see that letter, but it isn't delivered in ME3 (well not in my playthroughs...maybe a PC bug). Thanes name appears on the wall but it would have been good if we'd seen Shepard put it there...and maybe a team mate comforting her (Liara or Garrus), a 10 second cutscene.

However the topic was about team mates, and I stick by what I said, I missed Thane.

[txgoldrush]

john-in-france wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Reject Thane in ME2 in the romance cabin scene....you will find out the truth of his worries. Thane is afraid of losing Shepard.



Nevermind that in ME3, he goes out a hero.

Different romance types. For instance Renegade Shepard: If she does not use the 'just friends huh?' line, the romance ends there. Paragon Shepard can chose 'Look after your son', and Thane then chases her. It surprised me the first time I played it through...Most of my Shepards romanced Thane, so I am well aware of the dialogue.

I'm not saying that Thane did not go out a hero (though the death scene could have been better for romanced Thane). I'm am saying that his character development in ME2 suggested that there could be options in ME3.

Sadly most of ME3 seems to assume Renegade Shepard, even down to Jokers cynical remark about 'hanging up' on the Council, which of course Paragon Shepard never did. In the original leaked script for ME3 Thane played a greater part.

However, ME3 does address a romaced Thane....Thane does say "I picked a bad time to leave". There is a sense of worry here. He did not want to leave, but je accepts it than prays for her.

The only problem here is the crews reaction, or lack thereof, but this is mechanical. Thane never dies in an actually mission, but on the side and the Normandy crew sets itself in a specific state after a specific mission. Thane dies outside a mission so he isn't addressed.

I think what upset me most was the lack of closure or even a real feeling of the romance between them in ME3. In LoTSB we get to see that letter, but it isn't delivered in ME3 (well not in my playthroughs...maybe a PC bug). Thanes name appears on the wall but it would have been good if we'd seen Shepard put it there...and maybe a team mate comforting her (Liara or Garrus), a 10 second cutscene.

However the topic was about team mates, and I stick by what I said, I missed Thane.

I got the letter and closure...I moved to Liara.

[Barquiel]

not really. I always use Liara anyway, and only rotate the second squadmate...EDI, James and the VS usually. That wouldn't change in subsequent playthroughs either. Sure, some characters of the ME2 cast could have came back, and I wouldn't miss Javik (don't have the DLC), Garrus or Tali (never survived ME2).

But I always used the same 3-4 characters in ME2 too (some combination of Samara, Morinth, Kasumi and Miranda), despite the large size of the cast. There are other things which ruin the replay value for me.

[Han Shot First]

txgoldrush wrote...

Time to lay the hammer down...

ME1 and ME2 did it WRONG...ME3 did it RIGHT

ME1 characters didn't really develop outside of Wrex, this is because Drew K sucks at character development outside really the villian and the dueteragonist.

ME2's characters developed far better, however, they lived in their own bubble and had minimal plot participation outside Miranda, Kacob, and at first Tali. Characters lacked relationships with eachother outisde two flare ups.

ME3 did it right...the characters (and I consider Cortez, Traynor, and Joker as non combat squaddies) not only develop throughout the game, but play roles in the plot, even develop by it.

Nevermind that ME1 and ME2 reeks of identical dialogue, ME1 more than ME2......Hell if Garrus is with Ashley on the finale of ME1, he would argue saving the council, if he was with Liara he would take the pro-human position. In ME3, the squaddies all bring their own personalities to the mission without the clone dialogue, bringing new insights to the mission. You can also see exclusive scenes such as kicking the ocnsole with James on Rannoch, or Javik bringing a whole layer to the Thessia mission.

I was going to post something until I saw that txgoldrush did it better.

[L2 Sentinel]

Here's my take on the ME2 squad members and how they would or wouldn't fit on the Normandy in ME3:

Miranda - She should have been on the squad for story reasons. Composition wise, she would be your backup Kaidan just like James is your backup Ashley. She is the best fit.

Jacob - Could have been on your squad, but he is by far the least popular character. I think most of us would have felt like they wasted a spot on him. Miranda fits better, so he'd only work if she came along, too. The one thing that makes me think he probably should have been a member is because it would mean his romance with FemShep would have had a different conclusion.

Grunt - No reason he could not be on the team from a lore perspective. Wrex/Wreav could have sent him with you as a thank you for curing the genophage. Things would be awkward if he found out you sabotaged it, though.

Jack - She could work, but I'm rather fond of the story she got. Grissom Academy did wonders for her character. Losing that would be a shame. Miranda takes priority due to her relationship with Cerberus. If both Miranda and Jack rejoined the crew, it'd be really unfair to FemShep. She already had 2/3 of her ME2 romances go to hell, having all three of ManShep's romances onboard would just be cruel.

Samara/Morinth - They are viable candidates storywise, but from a team composition standpoint they are just too similar to Liara. We've never had two aliens of the same species on the crew at the same time, and having them both be the same class would be a bit much. Furthermore, one of them is always dead at the start of ME3, and it's complicated enough with Kaidan and Ashley.

Thane - He's tricky. He is no longer fit for combat, so the only way to make him work is to cure him, and even then he'd need time to recover. Shepard doesn't go out of the way for recruitment missions in ME3, squad members are acquired along the way. Thane pretty much requires a recruitment mission.

Mordin - I wouldn't change Mordin's story just so he could join the crew. His contributions to the plot were significant enough. Besides, he belongs in a lab or clinic, not the battlefield.

Legion - I would have liked it if the player had to choose between Legion and Tali as a squad member. Siding with the geth gives you Legion, siding with the quarians gives you Tali, and brokering peace lets you choose between the two.

Kasumi - As a DLC character, it seems unfair to punish people that didn't get her in ME2. On the other hand, it also seems unfair to take her away from the people that paid for her. The excuses she gives for not joining the squad in ME3 are the weakest out of everyone. It was so forced.

Zaeed - I hardly count him as DLC since he's free now. He isn't the most natural fit storywise, but it's doable. I'd feel sorry for the Soldier player that saved Ashley on Virmire. That is a pretty bland team composition.

Overall, I think the only one that clearly should have been a squad member is Miranda. Jacob, Grunt, and Legion are competing for second place. Bringing back more than two would be pushing it.

Modifié par Rauhel, 19 février 2013 - 10:33 .

[Karlone123]

EdI and James Vega are uninteresting (Freddy Prince Jr is still good). Edi serves as the whole "Rights for Synthetics" platform and though James could be one of those who isn't widely known for having traumatic background as one the "normal ones", it's mostly the mandatory squad member that become the least favourite and the optional ones are the favourites.

Although James is a simple-minded Marine, he's a lot more interesting than Jacob could ever be. I would prefer to replace EDI with Legion because EDI is really uninteresting.

Modifié par Karlone123, 19 février 2013 - 12:37 .

[spirosz]

txgoldrush wrote...


The problem with old Bioware is that they "develop" characters just because you talk to them...in newer Bioware games, characters development through EVENTS IN THE STORY.

Developing a character by talking to them?  Blasphemy. 

[Steelcan]

Rauhel wrote...


Jack - She could work, but I'm rather fond of the story she got. Grissom Academy did wonders for her character. Losing that would be a shame. Miranda takes priority due to her relationship with Cerberus. If both Miranda and Jack rejoined the crew, it'd be really unfair to FemShep. She already had 2/3 of her ME2 romances go to hell, having all three of ManShep's romances onboard would just be cruel.

nothing like character assasination 

[jacko621]

check out mass effect3.2 on youtube for better ideas for squad mates and their roles inluding ones from mass effect 2