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[ElSuperGecko]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Epök wrote...

-"My ending is better than yours."
-"No."
-"Y?"
-"Because."

Guys, really? 

Blame Eterna, does this on a regular basis.

Yep.  Eterna's one of those people that are clearly so uncomfortable in their final decision that they see a thread supporting Destroy and instantly feel the need to wade in.

It's a shame, but wholly predictable, considering how their final decision was effectively a betrayal.

[Eterna]

No I waded in because you implied my ending, which is presented by the game, is fanfiction, It had nothing to do with your choice.

[jtav]

No, we just get tired of being badgered day in and day out that our choice isn't valid.

[dorktainian]

Eterna5 wrote...

No I waded in because you implied my ending, which is presented by the game, is fanfiction, It had nothing to do with your choice.

 this thread is about destroy.  keep it that way please.

[Restrider]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...
Yeah.  Once more unto the breach........



Destroy the reapers.

Destroy those who have been murdering trillions of innocent creatures over the millenia.

Destroy these abhorrent monstrosities.

Until the last one of them is gone from our galaxy.  Make them pay for what they have done.

Anyone with me? 

When you justify Destroy like this, you are invoking karma as your main rationale. I submit that karma is irrevelant when compared to the future of galactic civilization. It is also inappropriately applied to entities whose nature does not include  a social conscience.

I believe in an objective moral standard that applies to the Reapers as surely as it does other species. But that same moral standard also says we don't execute the mentally ill or impose capital punishment when other means suffice for containing the threat.

I'd say reason a long the lines of "better safe than sorry".
Especially when dealing with something as powerful as Reapers.

[MaximizedAction]

As written many times before, the ending can be seen as a final test for the player if they 'got' what all these previous hours of story and gaming where about: ending the Reaper threat while taking into account all the dangers that accompany the Reapers at all times.

I can only say what I chose in my first, unspoilered Paragon playthrough:
I chose Destroy intuitively, without trying to think too much about what the Catalyst said.

Why did I do this?
Could be because I was too tired and it was 4am in the night.^^
But it could've also been because the game made sure to remind me that Anderson, one of Shepard's longest friends, would've chose Destroy, and that it is the choice for Shepard as a human, and not a Reaper. And Shepard is there to represent the civilizations of the Milky Way, whose lives are being destroyed by the Reapers.

So there was absolutely no reason for me to side with the Reapers, especially since the 99% of the trilogy were about that: fighting the danger coming from the Reapers, the ultimate bad guys.

The trilogy kept teaching me to fight the Reapers with caution, so I did exactly that in the end. No compromises.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 19 février 2013 - 12:22 .

[ElSuperGecko]

Eterna5 wrote...
No I waded in because you implied my ending, which is presented by the game, is fanfiction, It had nothing to do with your choice.

No, I implied your interpretation of your ending is fan fiction.  Which it is. 

[FOX216BC]

Solaxe wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And if you were so content with yours you wouldn't feel the need to **** on the two other endings to feel validated for your choice. 

/
Destroyers are just nerds who can't accept that other people may have different opinion.

[Eterna]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
No I waded in because you implied my ending, which is presented by the game, is fanfiction, It had nothing to do with your choice.

No, I implied your interpretation of your ending is fan fiction.  Which it is. 

Then so is yours. 

[dorktainian]

we get a guaranteed 'kill all the reapers' button and we dont use it? we have to use it. there are many reasons why the reapers deserve to die. there are no reasons as to why they deserve to live.

[Indy_S]

Eterna5 wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...
No, I implied your interpretation of your ending is fan fiction.  Which it is. 

Then so is yours. 

Are you expecting someone to argue against that?

[Mordak55]

Picked Synthesis 1st play through pre EC, then picked Destroy, seen the others on Tube, post and pre EC, but its only ever Destroy for me.

[dorktainian]

biggest roflmao is when EDI goes 'I am alive' what did she just grow a brain or a heart? grow major internal organs and a central nervous system? Does blood pump through her veins / circuits / servos?

and for the win... The definition of life is as follows...

The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional...

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have signaling and self-sustaining processes from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as inanimate. Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

Modifié par dorktainian, 19 février 2013 - 12:33 .

[ElSuperGecko]

Eterna5 wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
No I waded in because you implied my ending, which is presented by the game, is fanfiction, It had nothing to do with your choice.

No, I implied your interpretation of your ending is fan fiction.  Which it is. 

Then so is yours. 

LOL - now tell me something I don't already know! 

Only Eterna could get offended at someone calling their interpretation "fan fiction"! 

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 19 février 2013 - 12:34 .

[Sc2mashimaro]

I accidentally picked synthesis the first time because I wanted a closer look at the beam. Always destroy or refuse after that. I just don't trust Reapers or their child AI representatives.

[Indy_S]

dorktainian wrote...

biggest roflmao is when EDI goes 'I am alive' what did she just grow a brain or a heart? grow major internal organs and a central nervous system? Does blood pump through her veins / circuits / servos?

and for the win... The definition of life is as follows...

The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional...

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have signaling and self-sustaining processes from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (death), or else because they lack such functions and are classified as inanimate. Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

Biology can always be redefined as the science concerned with the study of organic life. Strange that this came up in another thread.

[N7Gold]

dorktainian wrote...

Yeah.  Once more unto the breach........



Destroy the reapers.

Destroy those who have been murdering trillions of innocent creatures over the millenia.

Destroy these abhorrent monstrosities.

Until the last one of them is gone from our galaxy.  Make them pay for what they have done.

Anyone with me? 

I used to be a Destroy ending supporter like you... Then I took an arrow to the knee.

Destroying ALL synthetic life was not part of my agenda, and I have no intention of letting a conflict that the Reapers were trying to prevent return. Organics try to control synthetics to serve their needs or destroy them if they become ask questions like "do I have a soul" or rebel from their programmed purpose + synthetics fight for their right to live as sentient beings = the conflict the Reapers want to prevent.

[UrgentArchengel]

Here is my 2 cents on the endings, as why I choose Destroy:

I like destroy because of my own personal reasons like, faith in other choices, willing to make a really hard choice for the greater good, and freeing the galaxy from the Reapers in general. I'm not a fan of control, but I can see why people would choose it. Now Synthesis...I would not choose it. Not because I find the idea wrong. I do believe decades down the road, we will hit the point where we will be synthesized. I do think it's "inevitability" is definitely a possibillity. I just do not trust The Catalyst, nor no I trust the Reapers, and they are both Alive, and "evolved" in Synthesis. I have no idea what is to happen. Not to mention the possible ramifications of forcing evolution.

In my Destroy future "fan-fiction". Most non-Reaper related Synthetics survived, but were damaged. Super BS that The Geth, and EDI had to be killed, but their deaths will not be in vain as Shepard will be working to create a better future for Synthetics, and Synthetic/Organic Relations. This could lead to Synthesis.

Though I could just choose Synthesis, I just don't trust the Reapers, and I never will. They must be stopped. What is top stop The Intelligence from starting some other plan? I can't take that risk.

[Indy_S]

N7Gold wrote...
I used to be a Destroy ending supporter like you... Then I took an arrow to the knee.

Destroying ALL synthetic life was not part of my agenda, and I have no intention of letting a conflict that the Reapers were trying to prevent return. Organics try to control synthetics to serve their needs or destroy them if they become ask questions like "do I have a soul" or rebel from their programmed purpose + synthetics fight for their right to live as sentient beings = the conflict the Reapers want to prevent.

You see, I never thought that this conflict had any more implications than any other conflict. Apparently, it is inevitable that synthetics will wipe out all organic life. I disagree with that. So removing the Reapers just seemed to make sense to me.

[Peranor]

Guys, there's nothing to argue about here. All endings are equally ridiculous!

[cyrslash1974]

dorktainian wrote...

Yeah.  Once more unto the breach........



Destroy the reapers.

Destroy those who have been murdering trillions of innocent creatures over the millenia.

Destroy these abhorrent monstrosities.

Until the last one of them is gone from our galaxy.  Make them pay for what they have done.

Anyone with me? 

Fully agreed

[Argolas]

If that wasn't enough, what else do the Reapers have to do until everyone considers them the bad guys?

Killing Garrus?

[jtav]

Argolas wrote...

If that wasn't enough, what else do the Reapers have to do until everyone considers them the bad guys?

Killing Garrus?

It doesn't matter. If the Reapers are a valid lifeform (and they clearly are in universe) then we have an obligation to use the least lethal means we have to contain the threat.

[Wayning_Star]

Argolas wrote...

If that wasn't enough, what else do the Reapers have to do until everyone considers them the bad guys?

Killing Garrus?

we cannot actually 'kill' a reapership,they're not alive. We can destroy them and their cargo, killing the chance of their recovery, or the recovery of their heritage.

The reapers are not 'guys' they are ships carrying cargo with objectives set out by the catalyst, what seen problems with the organization of synth an its creation/w evolutionary simulation of sentience. We built them and they came, now we have to learn to live with them. Otherwise the MEU is toast. The MEU will fall away without support by synthetic life forms.

I don't understand why this simple problem is ignored?

[Wayning_Star]

another thought: IF the organic minds of the reapership might overcome the catalsyt indoctrination, then one might become a 'person' and be at least partially responsible for it's/their actions after that, otherwise, they are 'controlled' by the catalyst, who was an intelligence created by the Leviathan, who is ulitmately responsible for the whole thing. Then we'd have to determine if they(levi) intended to harvest the MEU countless times, or it was an industrial accident and be negligence or just organic incompetance. Of course to do that we'd have to accept Leviathan choice of enthrallment within their rights as beings within the MEU.

The more we destroy out of hand, the more responsible we become as the instigator of our complaints with the reaperships.