GallowsPole wrote...
Lets buff the Claymore 200% too while we're at it.
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Phatose wrote...
Well, personally I'd rather a buff like that go to the mantis or other common/uncommon weapon. Too many overpowered rare weapons as is.
Mantis is the best common weapon there is. Valiant is a Promo gun, means rarer then Ultra-Rare. And it's never been buffed. Ever.
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Phatose wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Phatose wrote...
Well, personally I'd rather a buff like that go to the mantis or other common/uncommon weapon. Too many overpowered rare weapons as is.
Mantis is the best common weapon there is. Valiant is a Promo gun, means rarer then Ultra-Rare. And it's never been buffed. Ever.
That's really why it shouldn't be buffed in such a simple fashion. It's very bad practice to make guns that new players will not be able to aquire in a reasonable amount of time better then then the basics. It rewards being around for a long time - and with the promos in particular, being lucky.
If you're going to buff such a weapon, make it something actually interesting. Let it interrupt Sync-Kills on a leg shot or something like that. Not just simple damage - there's already a giant list of things working against newbies, the game doesn't need another.
I do. Well I did. Once. Topped the board with it. Phasic rounds and nothing without armor would resist to pop their heads for my entertainment.stysiaq wrote...
Phatose wrote...
....Are there snipers out there aiming for something other then the head?
Not really, Javelin and BW both don't really need the headshots, although not getting a 20 HS medal still puts you to shame
After BW gigabuffs (buffed by over 40% + shield gate modifications) the Valiant lost a lot of appeal.
EDIT: Oh, and the regular Widow, but I guess nobbody uses it once you level up the BW/ El Javelino
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M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...
I like the 300% headshot Idea. Can we reduce the maximum weight also, from like 1.75-1.00 to 1.50-1.00 since it's hard to level up.
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GreatBlueHeron wrote...
Valient is already the easiest sniper to get headshots with. It needs a buff, but not that much.
The indra weight is 1.00-0.70, the Valiant weight is 1.75-1.00.Air Quotes wrote...
M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...
I like the 300% headshot Idea. Can we reduce the maximum weight also, from like 1.75-1.00 to 1.50-1.00 since it's hard to level up.
Weight is fine. It's not suppose to be lighter than Indra.
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Phatose wrote...
Well, personally I'd rather a buff like that go to the mantis or other common/uncommon weapon. Too many overpowered rare weapons as is.
Mantis is the best common weapon there is. Valiant is a Promo gun, means rarer then Ultra-Rare. And it's never been buffed. Ever.
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M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...
The indra weight is 1.00-0.70, the Valiant weight is 1.75-1.00.Air Quotes wrote...
M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...
I like the 300% headshot Idea. Can we reduce the maximum weight also, from like 1.75-1.00 to 1.50-1.00 since it's hard to level up.
Weight is fine. It's not suppose to be lighter than Indra.
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DullahansXMark wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Phatose wrote...
Well, personally I'd rather a buff like that go to the mantis or other common/uncommon weapon. Too many overpowered rare weapons as is.
Mantis is the best common weapon there is. Valiant is a Promo gun, means rarer then Ultra-Rare. And it's never been buffed. Ever.
Yes and no. I got the N7 Hurricane far before I got any UR weapons (Goliath, specifically. So many people would kick me to have that kind of luck), which of course doesn't mean anything on its own, but I still got one of the best weapons in the game (at the time it WAS the best) before I got most of the stuff I have now. And it's not like it even took me that long (like... less than a week's worth of playing Bronze, lol). Promos are more consistent, but as you said, more rare for the average player (but for those with any sort of unluck like myself, they come along a lot more frequently).
Your points are perfectly sound, I just wanted to point out that that specific claim is only half right. They should be about the power of a UR weapon, but URs should probably maintain some sense of superiority, while keeping them ultimately balanced.
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Cyrax86 wrote...
it needs a slight damage buff, or a small buff to the headshot multiplier, either one would help, but not both as it would make it OP.
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capn233 wrote...
The best part about the Valiant is that it went from arguably the most useful sniper rifle to largely mediocre with new ammo and a couple of balance changes to other things.
It probably could be buffed.
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DiebytheSword wrote...
Wow, this would make the gun absurdly OP.
. Did 300% modifier made Valkyrie absurdly OP and better than Harrier? Did 300% on a Locust made it OP and better than Hurricane? I don't think so.
Modifié par Air Quotes, 19 février 2013 - 12:49 .
Air Quotes wrote...
Making a Valiant buff thread again and I'll keep bumping this for a whole week.
Valiant needs a similar niche as the Valkyrie. Designated headshot sniper.
DiebytheSword wrote...
Wow, this would make the gun absurdly OP.
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