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[iOnlySignIn]

Raptor2023 wrote...

CSR.

CSR's burst DPS is 1.6 times that of the Indra (with both at Level X) so that you don't need to stay out of cover for extended amount of time to kill things. You can't do the same with the Indra unless you play Infiltrators, which defeats the purpose as the Indra is designed to be a caster weapon (being ridiculously light) and there are much better sniper rifles for Infiltrators.

CSR vs. Indra is a prime example of how a Rare gun is just straight up better than an Ultra Rare, simply because the Rare gun requires a little bit more skill to use. For another example, see Claymore vs. Wraith on Infiltrators and Soldiers.

In short, CSR, Mantis, and Valiant make the Indra redundant for casters. Black Widow, Widow, and Javelin make the Indra redundant for Infiltrators and Soldiers.

The Indra is the Sniper Rifle That Has No Reason To Exist, not the Valiant.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 19 février 2013 - 12:51 .

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

i neeed damage multiplier over 9999999.........%

[N7-RedFox]

I have my Valiant at IX and my Black Widow at X. The BW hugely outshined the Valiant in every department except for reloading/weight. But reloading isn't really an issue when you reload cancel.

[Lajkos]

Jiovanie- wrote...

Why? I don't see why that would be necessary.

[Lajkos]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Raptor2023 wrote...

CSR.

CSR's burst DPS is 1.6 times that of the Indra (with both at Level X) so that you don't need to stay out of cover for extended amount of time to kill things. You can't do the same with the Indra unless you play Infiltrators, which defeats the purpose as the Indra is designed to be a caster weapon (being ridiculously light) and there are much better sniper rifles for Infiltrators.

CSR vs. Indra is a prime example of how a Rare gun is just straight up better than an Ultra Rare, simply because the Rare gun requires a little bit more skill to use. For another example, see Claymore vs. Wraith on Infiltrators and Soldiers.

In short, CSR, Mantis, and Valiant make the Indra redundant for casters. Black Widow, Widow, and Javelin make the Indra redundant for Infiltrators and Soldiers.

The Indra is the Sniper Rifle That Has No Reason To Exist, not the Valiant.

the CSR have a limited range making it useless as a sniper

[GallowsPole]

OP feels if he can't solo without it being able to take a head off in one shot, it needs buffed. Like the 8 shots he wants back in the Pirahna and even at a 10% damage reduction. Doesn't mention that reload cancelling would negate the damage reduction and then some. 3 team mates will finish it off as it is supposed to work

Modifié par GallowsPole, 19 février 2013 - 01:10 .

[brotherlibrarian]

So what would be the main benefit of +50% HS damage on non-bosses only? Shield guys die a little bit faster. A different buff like typhoon's armour &/or shield piercing would make it better at killing shielded/armoured mooks AND bosses. AP seems to be a SR trend, Jav, BW, Widow all have native AP right?

Of course I've never used it, commendation packs seem to be taunting me there...

[ValorOfArms777]

I never really found this gun to be bad in any way but never over the top either

It's pretty snug where it's at

[Googleness]

Valiant sucks.

Javelin = 1-shot kill
Widow = 1-shot kill
Black Widow = 1 shot kill

Valiant = 33 headshots and then I get killed.

[Deerber]

Sorry guys, I didn't read the whole discussion, but I'd like to say that I second this.

3X Valiant headshot modifier, /Signed.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Valiant is light weight, has no recoil, reloads fast and is a much more forgiving gun that any of the other snipers. While I wouldn't mind a buff, I tend to view it as a balanced weapon thanks to it's ease of use.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Phatose wrote...

Well, personally I'd rather a buff like that go to the mantis or other common/uncommon weapon. Too many overpowered rare weapons as is.

Sad thing is the rarer weapons are meant to be heavier and stronger. BioWare keeps listening to fools like you and nerfing the rarer weapons while buffing the common/uncommon guns though.

[Deerber]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Valiant is light weight, has no recoil, reloads fast and is a much more forgiving gun that any of the other snipers. While I wouldn't mind a buff, I tend to view it as a balanced weapon thanks to it's ease of use.

I used to see it this way too. But in the last topic, Air Quotes righly pointed out that it has less damage than a paladin, while waiting significantly more. It's a bit weird, isn't it?

[GallowsPole]

Deerber wrote...

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Valiant is light weight, has no recoil, reloads fast and is a much more forgiving gun that any of the other snipers. While I wouldn't mind a buff, I tend to view it as a balanced weapon thanks to it's ease of use.

I used to see it this way too. But in the last topic, Air Quotes righly pointed out that it has less damage than a paladin, while waiting significantly more. It's a bit weird, isn't it?

So toss a scope on the Paladin and call it a day.

[Morgax_Warrior]

Yes and no.
Headshot modifier sounds fine in exchange for reducing fire rate, way beyond fast even for the description.

[GallowsPole]

You'll also get sniper bonuses on certain kits whereas you don't get crap for using a pistol.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Deerber wrote...

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Valiant is light weight, has no recoil, reloads fast and is a much more forgiving gun that any of the other snipers. While I wouldn't mind a buff, I tend to view it as a balanced weapon thanks to it's ease of use.

I used to see it this way too. But in the last topic, Air Quotes righly pointed out that it has less damage than a paladin, while waiting significantly more. It's a bit weird, isn't it?

Hmmm, and the Paladin gets a 40 percent damage barrel.  That might be a fair point.  

Nerf the Paladin.  It's the only reasonable solution.

[Kenadian]

Air Quotes wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

To be precise Mr. Quotes, you're looking for a 200% modifier. As it is, it's a 150% modifier.

 

, I though you play this game.

Valiant -  2.50x HS modifier  

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc

You're getting numbers mixed up. 100% increase is a 2x modifer. A 2.5x modifier is a 150% increase, and 3x is thusly 200%. A 300% modifier would be 4x.

[Dokteur Kill]

Valiant may not be that powerful on paper, but I find that my effective damage/time with it is quite high, simply because it's so easy to score headshots with.

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing one of my favourite weapons buffed, but the fact is that it is one of my favourite weapons, even in its current "weak" state.

[Vlark]

Air Quotes wrote...

M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

I like the 300% headshot Idea. Can we reduce the maximum weight also, from like 1.75-1.00 to 1.50-1.00 since it's hard to level up.

 

Weight is fine. It's not suppose to be lighter than Indra. 

You know in every thread you seem like you have insight into the Concept and Design of any and every class/weapon/power out there. You don't know if X is designed to do Y. Do not pretend. Ever.

[Boog_89]

Valiant is great and spammable, the sniper that would most realistically get a headshot buff is the widow since every headshot counts.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I kinda shrug when people ask for buffs to weapons I love and use all the time.

It feels like buffing something so awesome is just asking for too much.

But really, if you pull it off, and suddenly I'm getting 2 - 3 kills per clip on Gold/Platinum with my Valiant.

I'm not gonna complain. 

(But 50% of the PuGs I play with definitely will, and I bet they'll show up here asking for the Valiant to be nerfed. :innocent:)

[soulstriker09]

I support ALL of Air Quotes' buff threads.
Biower pls.