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[Vlark]

Hahahahaa even if I do not want to reply here anymore I can not resist.

What exactly does this 25 Minutes thingy prove now? That your ePeen is big enough that you can state ANYTHING and your word is Godgiven? And if you've done it with the Valiant it just proves once more that it doesn't need any Buff. You should work on your argumentation. A lot. Over and Out here.

[Tokenusername]

The Valiant's strength is that it is insanely user friendly.

The BW relys more on individual player skill to do well, and Javelin is a single shot weapon not justifiably comparable to the Valiant which is operationally different.

[hellman77]

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

hellman77 wrote...

"The weapon does a ton of damage."

Lol.
It's a pea shooter.

Everything is a pea shooter next to a Black Widow or Javelin. And while the Javelin is more like anti-boss-artillery, the Black Widow is just a deus ex machina and spoils people. They play it once and never want another sniper rifle again....as seen here.

Valiant is an excellent Sniper and I'd like a buff for it. It deserves more reason to be wanted in a commendation pack, everyone wishes for a hurricane at the moment which has to be changed.

Exactly, that's just the point. In its current state it is lacklustered against bosses on later gold waves. You need another weapon besides the Valiant. I'll rather run another weapon altogether. Like Air Quotes stated, the Paladin or the Saber.

[GroverA125]

Are you mad? It works wonders on gold.

Well, maybe it could do with a slight base damage increase, but that's it. Generally, any weapon that can put out rounds that fast with no recoil or delay shouldn't be killing in one headshot. It can get a full mag onto someones head before the second is out, and if you stagger them, then they will be accepting those two extra rounds into the head.

It's my go-to sniper for gold. I never use any temporary equipment with it and it works out damn fine on my end, provided they don't move into melee, but there's few snipers designed for melee.

Also, regarding the whole Javelin/Black widow discussion also going on: I find that the BW is too slow to be reliable, and that kick is very annoying, it makes confirming a hit painful. And the Javelin is just too ineffective, not sure whether it's got an extra zoom scope or it's just the reticule, but aiming is so much harder at the mid-range mark. I was actually using my BW on a drell infiltrator, and after one or two matches, I dropped it and went back to the valiant.

It's the ultimate anti-light personnel rifle we have right now, in on mag, and less than a second, you can drop three targets and already be halfway through reloading. It's just so damn fast.

Modifié par GroverA125, 24 février 2013 - 11:10 .

[GroverA125]

Air Quotes wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Are you mad? It works wonders on gold.

Well, maybe it could do with a slight base damage increase, but that's it. Generally, any weapon that can put out rounds that fast with no recoil or delay shouldn't be killing in one headshot. It can get a full mag onto someones head before the second is out, and if you stagger them, then they will be accepting those two extra rounds into the head.

It's my go-to sniper for gold. I never use anything buy equipment with it and it works out damn fine on my end, provided they don't move into melee, but there's few snipers designed for melee.

 

I listed my reasons. I won't talk about it again. It's for BW to decide now.  

And BTW, you're a DB for not using gear. Period. 

Didn't realise I hadn't put that in properly, I use gear, but no temporary consumables. Only ever use them on Platinum, and I bugged out of that when the missile glitch took it's stride on it. Never really got back in the saddle after that.

As for using consumables, I never really use them because I never feel I really need to. Sure, they're effective, but I am a hoarder, and unless it's completely necessary that I use mods, I don't usually. I suppose if it's definitely being collector, I'll bring some, but only so I don't end up a drag on the team.

Either way, on to the topic at hand. I feel that the valiant is fine at dropping the things it should, and any effect a headshot bonus would have on it seems a little pointless, if you're going against infantry, you won't really need the 3x multiplier, it'll pretty much always get them in one shot, or two for heavy infantry.

[OneTrueShot]

I think a damage buff would be nice, but not a headshot buff.

Valkyrie deserves inherrent AP of 0.5m.

[SOG TOUGH]

I'd prefer not to get it in next week's Commendation Pack, and hopefully a Hurricane/Crusader VII.

[GroverA125]

I respectfully disagree, air quotes.

On gold at least, the rapid-fire capabilities compensate for lower damage. The BW just can't hit targets fast enough, which means more exposure, risk of enemy moveups and flanking. At mook-killing, no other sniper can work faster than the valiant, since the krysae got nerfed.

I suppose I could get behind a 300% modifier, however, it does nothing to compensate for the extensive anti-boss shortcoming. A damage buff is the way to go to make it more useful, if it needs to be.

Also, the Valkyrie got a HS modifier because it doesn't kill mooks in one hit. Up to gold, the valiant does that/wouldn't do that with the extra modifier.

[Colonel Sheppard]

300%? Um, no. That would make the Valiant way over powered and then everyone will rock the Valiant and then there will be cries for nerfs. I do agree, the Valiant could use some change. I'm just not sure the headshot multiplier is the key.

As it is today, I get headshot kills with the Valiant faster than any other gun. I can usually achieve the 20 headshot medal by the end of the 2nd wave on Gold. The only other gun I can do that with is the Saber, and that doesn't happen in every game.

[OniAngel]

more like needs a weight reduction

[udinbak4]

Valiant needs a glorious buff.

Why use this sniper rifle, when I can just reload cancel Black Widow and deal much more damage?

Biower pls, this is a N7 weapon. Give it moar love.

[Colonel Sheppard]

I think what it really needs is a boost against shields and barriers. It's probably the best sniper against mooks, but it takes so much effort against bosses... If I remember right. Also, it should auto fire like the BW.

Modifié par Colonel Sheppard, 25 février 2013 - 10:08 .

[Crimson Vanguard]

Agree that it needs a buff. Mine is at IX and I can't see how it will match the Black Widow even at X