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[Xilizhra]

No, odds are that I have no need to.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

I have no satisfaction of role-playing Hawke in DA 2. Every single moment was a constant struggle between me and BioWare's Hawke. Every single moment was a painful experience of trying to break free from BioWare's personality based on tones design, only to be fail again and again. Nothing work the way I wanted. Not even a single damn thing. Hell, every single choices I had made, turned out to be the exact things that I don't want it to happen. And I don't even understand why. There was absolutely zero reasoning with absolute zero focus and motivation. The entire acting was nothing but merely a joyride to a single destination, and it just felt something terribly wrong with Hawke. It absolutely anger me when I realize that I do not want DA 2. Killing Hawke will not return my $60 back to me. But it would certainly give some pleasure for me, at least, just to protest BioWare's move for invading and taking control of the Hawke that should have been mine alone.  

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 19 février 2013 - 03:14 .

[Knight of Dane]

Not inless given personal cause to, or Hawke got posessed.

[MichaelStuart]

Yes, if it gained me anything

[Teddie Sage]

MichaelStuart wrote...

Yes, if it gained me anything

Like automatic bad ending?

[cindercatz]

Depends entirely on the context. I honestly think I'll like Hawke more as an NPC, because as is, I felt basically helpless to accomplish anything, and that Hawke was too pacifist to do anything about it. All well and good, but never satisfying. So Hawke as an npc actually getting stuff done? I'm looking forward to seeing that happen. Whether I would kill him/her or not will depend on the PC I'm playing and the Hawke I imported and whether my current PC would do that or not.

Specifically, my first Hawke was a pro-mage warrior (haven't finished my second or more). I always hoped after he left town with Merrill, they'd get involved in the mage uprising, alongside Bethany. Here's hoping I see that happen.
-and Anders is still kickin' around, too, so I hope we see him again as well, if he survived DA2.

Modifié par cindercatz, 19 février 2013 - 03:31 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Darth Death wrote...

DominusVita wrote...

As mentioned above, the concept without any context is going to feel contrived. Perhaps it's a case of "I support Templars, you support Mages, let's duke it out". As far as the question of would I do it, I explore every option for plot branches*. So naturally, yes.

*And if not, I can always YouTube it later or something. Hurray to the internet.

Both Ultimashade & Sith Grey Warden supplied the context without my intervention. This is what I wanted from the start. I wanted to see who would think outside the box with little to go on. 

Well, not to be antognistic, but it sounds like you want us to discuss our Hawke's and whether or not we liked them, then, not if we would kill them in DA3. Which maybe could mean this thread belongs in the DA2 forums. 

[Darth Death]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

DominusVita wrote...

As mentioned above, the concept without any context is going to feel contrived. Perhaps it's a case of "I support Templars, you support Mages, let's duke it out". As far as the question of would I do it, I explore every option for plot branches*. So naturally, yes.

*And if not, I can always YouTube it later or something. Hurray to the internet.

Both Ultimashade & Sith Grey Warden supplied the context without my intervention. This is what I wanted from the start. I wanted to see who would think outside the box with little to go on. 

Well, not to be antognistic, but it sounds like you want us to discuss our Hawke's and whether or not we liked them, then, not if we would kill them in DA3. Which maybe could mean this thread belongs in the DA2 forums. 

No, you're wrong. Hawke's existence & decisions influenced thedas as a whole. Whatever Hawke has done in DA2 will affect DA3 in someway, therefore this topic is relevant. Again, think outside the box. Hawke is hardly a saint.  

[Teddie Sage]

Darth Death wrote...

No, you're wrong. Hawke's existence & decisions influenced thedas as a whole. Whatever Hawke has done in DA2 will affect DA3 in someway, therefore this topic is relevant. Again, think outside the box. Hawke is hardly a saint.  

For clarification's sake: Maybe he wasn't a saint to your eyes, but in the eyes of others, maybe he was.

[Bob Garbage]

To even get into Kirkwall Hawke must either work for a thief or a merc. There are countless other examples of the plot working out this way. Hawke is not a saint no matter how you play.

Modifié par Bob Garbage, 19 février 2013 - 03:38 .

[Teddie Sage]

Bob Garbage wrote...

To even get into Kirkwall Hawke must either work for a thief or a merc. There are countless other examples of the plot working out this way. Hawke is not a saint no matter how you play.

He/She was forced to for the first year. After that, nothing forces you to proceed with the theivery or mercenaries ways.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 19 février 2013 - 03:41 .

[Darth Death]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

No, you're wrong. Hawke's existence & decisions influenced thedas as a whole. Whatever Hawke has done in DA2 will affect DA3 in someway, therefore this topic is relevant. Again, think outside the box. Hawke is hardly a saint.  

For clarification's sake: Maybe he wasn't a saint to your eyes, but in the eyes of others, maybe he was.

Exactly. So everyone will have their own reason to either kill Hawke or not. Are you seeing where I'm going with this? You're role-playing experience with Hawke is the context.

[Teddie Sage]

Uh huh. The context varies for everyone.

[LliiraAnna]

Well, I actually liked my Hawke just as much as I liked my Warden, so nope, I don't want to kill her.
Besides, since Hawke could have different personalities depending on player's choice, it would be hard to import him/her so that it suits all players, no?

[Darth Death]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Uh huh. The context varies for everyone.

That's the point. 

Some people played a good Hawke= May not wish to kill Hawke.
Some people played an evil Hawke= May wish to kill Hawke. 

Everyone's reasons for killing Hawke varies, thus discussion. 

Modifié par Darth Death, 19 février 2013 - 03:52 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Darth Death wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Uh huh. The context varies for everyone.

That's the point. 
Some people played a good Hawke= May not wish to kill Hawke.
Some people played a evil Hawke= May wish to kill Hawke. 

Everyone's reasons for killing Hawke varies, thus discussion. 

Well.. My reason to kill Hawke has nothing to do with the context of story.  My reason to kill Hawke is targeted at BioWare's direction.

[Darth Death]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Uh huh. The context varies for everyone.

That's the point. 
Some people played a good Hawke= May not wish to kill Hawke.
Some people played a evil Hawke= May wish to kill Hawke. 

Everyone's reasons for killing Hawke varies, thus discussion. 

Well.. My reason to kill Hawke has nothing to do with the context of story.  My reason to kill Hawke is targeted at BioWare's direction.

And you know what? That's completely fine since you gave a reason. There's no right or wrong answers, only opinions. Speaking of which, thanks for your input. 

[Fast Jimmy]

I wouldn't kill anyone unless given a reason. As long as Hawke doesn't give me a reason in DA3, I won't. If he does, I will. No hesitation or question.

However, this is all highly hypothetical. I highly doubt Hawke will appear in DA3, just as I highly doubt any choice we made in DA:O or DA2 will result in any major changes in the obstacles our hero encounters.

[themikefest]

I couldn't kill my femhawke. And since I don't play as male Hawke, I would slice and dice him just to see the effects it has on the story.

[nightscrawl]

Darth Death wrote...

Is it safe to say that Hawke was played diplomatically to those responding "No"? Has your Hawke in any playthrough killed his/her sibling or committed any other heinous acts? Retribution?

I've played all personalities, killed my sibling once, sided with both mages and templars, and I still wouldn't kill Hawke. I've seen the people on this forum who have a vicious hatred for Hawke, but I just don't share that view.

Plus, it would make Fenris sad.

[Wulfram]

Concievably I might play an inquisitor who would kill some of my Hawkes, because they were on the other side on the Mage/Templar thing.

Though that's unlikely to be true in my first playthrough, because my first playthrough usually stays fairly close to my own morality.

Modifié par Wulfram, 19 février 2013 - 04:17 .

[Huyna]

Nope, i kinda like all my Hawks. Especially the one who was mage and a troll ("purple" dialog variant through most of DA2 dialog options). He was a sarcastic scoundrel, helped mages, killed Anders in a duel and went into unlnown with Merril beside him. And his name was Rinswind. No, i would not kill him.

Though if developer would made me choose between Hawk and Warden... well, Warden all the way.

Modifié par Huyna, 19 février 2013 - 04:46 .

[Trolldrool]

Import DA2 save where Hawke helped mages. Complete certain quest or discover certain note/item to trigger encounter with Hawke. Character like mages, no killing. Character hates mages, stabbity-stab unless you use the correct dialogue option to come to a hostile stalemate.
And vice-versa if import-Hawke helped templars and main character likes mages.

That'd be the only way I could see killing Hawke in a future game become an option, and even then I doubt it'd add anything crucial to the plot. Just seeing Hawke in the game would mean very little to me.

[Cutlass Jack]

If Hawke isn't my character, I in no way want him to appear in the game. There is no way that could be done without ruining one of my favorite characters for me.

Trying to put in an old protaganist as an NPC never works in games where you create that character. It usually pisses off the people it was intended to be fan service for. For a great recent example, see Revan in SWTOR. If it made anyone happy, I haven't met them yet.