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[Hurbster]

Well Hawke wasn't really my character - not like the Warden was. I would not really care. However, if they reanimate Anders I'd happily kill him all day long.

[JWvonGoethe]

Interesting question OP, and exactly the type of dilemma I'd like to see in DA3. It's not a world-changing choice, but it would have a huge amount of significance for most long term DA players.

Anyway, to answer the question: yes, if this was possible I think I could kill Hawke, even on the first playthrough. I like to make drastic decisions in Bioware games, in order to add a nice level of drama and jeopardy to the game.

Of course it would depend on whether it would make sense in the context of the character I'd be playing as in DA3.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 21 février 2013 - 12:55 .

[Faerloch]

Who would you rather kill, Hawke or Cullen?

I know the answer probably leans toward both, but I'd love to kill Cullen.

[KingRoxas]

Depends.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Faerloch wrote...

Who would you rather kill, Hawke or Cullen?

I know the answer probably leans toward both, but I'd love to kill Cullen.

Cullen i wait for this moment like i wait to kill Vidic i wait 5 games to kill him and finnaly i kill him priceless! That will be revenge for my mage warden. 

[The Six Path of Pain]

Faerloch wrote...

Who would you rather kill, Hawke or Cullen?

I know the answer probably leans toward both, but I'd love to kill Cullen.

Cullen without a doubt.

[RinuCZ]

Darth Death wrote...

...Be killed by the main protagonist in DA3, would you do it? Would the choice be difficult to make?

No I wouldn't do it. However I wouldn't mind to do same with Warden from DA:O for a reasonable cause; she was kinda bland.

Modifié par RinuCZ, 21 février 2013 - 09:56 .

[Han Shot First]

Darth Death wrote...

...Be killed by the main protagonist in DA3, would you do it? Would the choice be difficult to make?

Yes, and actually that could be kind of fun. The choice also wouldn't be difficult.

I'd only have the DA3 protagonist kill him however if there was a reason for it in the plot. He'd have to be in opposition to whatever my DA3 protagonist was trying to accomplish, or part of some faction that was enemy of the DA3 protagonist's faction. Hawke's motives and faction alignment would also have to remain in character for it to work.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 21 février 2013 - 09:13 .

[themikefest]

Faerloch wrote...

Who would you rather kill, Hawke or Cullen?

I know the answer probably leans toward both, but I'd love to kill Cullen.

I wouldn't have a problem killing Cullen.

[iSousek]

I would cry of happiness if Hawke made an appearance

[Darth Death]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Depends on the reason.

And what is with all these "I want to kill/Can we have an option to kill x character" threads all over the BSN?

If I'd to guess, I'd say options. People want more of it & certainly doesn't hurt having alternatives when dealing with other characters. In a BioWare game, you can expect the option to kill off a character. ME2 blew my mind on how many characters you may kill in a mere single playthrough. Welcoming an option that already existed shouldn't be greeted with the "what is wrong with you" reaction. I'm not saying this because I think your post is exhibiting something errant; more of a precaution for my sake when explaining the reason behind my madness.
   
@ LobselVith8: I agree with the last post made to me. Thank you for the input you've invested. 

Modifié par Darth Death, 21 février 2013 - 11:30 .

[Ty3pher]

It depends on the context, and as to what Hawke was doing to find himself in that context. In my main playthrough, I would try to not kill him if the choice should show itself, even if I would need to go into a more "gray" area to do that. In my second playthrough...well....all of Thedas's safety should be in doubt because of my insane blood mage.

[Bowhunter4L]

No for one thing that wouldn't make since and the fact that I would love to continue the adventure with my Hawke( and my LI) into DA3

[Mantaal]

I think killing Hawke , no matter about the reason, would make me buy the game. And id pay extra if i could spit at his corpse after killing.

[Wolfva2]

Bob Garbage wrote...

 I tend to play my first character as more of an extension of myself, meaning relatively good natured and someone who tries to ultimately do the right thing. So unless Hawke is trying to rape someone or is stealing candy from a child, I'd say he is safe from my wrath. Future playthroughs result in a lot of role playing, and I'd glady make a character who would kill Hawke without a second thought.

As for you people wondering why someone would role play a role playing game....well I never.

Wait...does that mean you'd kill STEN?!?  After all, he stole cookies from a kid.  Granted, it was a fat kid.  Sten figured he was doing him a favor.  But still!  

As far as the topic goes...well, if it was a serious question I'd answer it.  But I think it's more along the lines of, "OOooOOOOO I HAAAATE HAWKE!  Curse Bioware for DA2!  Surely EVERY.  SINGLE.  PERSON. who ever played hates him as much as I do so let's whip up some forum validation of my feelings and show the Devs how badly they screwed up!"  Of course, I could be wrong.  But even if I am, it's still a stupid question for the reason other people have stated.  There is no context.  I kill no one without context. 

[Fredward]

I might. Depends on how romantic the situation is. And I mean romantic here as in the literature sense not the Nick Cassavetes sense.

[thebigbad1013]

Never eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever would I kill any of my Hawke's.

[LobselVith8]

Faerloch wrote...

Who would you rather kill, Hawke or Cullen?

I know the answer probably leans toward both, but I'd love to kill Cullen.

Well, I dislike Knight-Captain Cullen. His comments about mages in Act I and Act III really grated on me (and it made him look stupid to tell my apostate Hawke that mages weren't like me or him), and I was left confused that Cullen did nothing about Meredith's Right of Annulment, but stopped the Knight-Commander the moment she threatened my apostate Champion specifically, who had been killing every templar in his path since he openly defied Meredith. It didn't make any sense to me, and it lessened my already low opinion of him.

I admit, I wanted to kill Cullen when he took Bethany away in my short-lived rogue Hawke run (and seeing my protagonist's refusal to do anything to protect his sister in that scene is precisely why my run was short-lived). However, with a new protagonist who doesn't have the same personal history with Cullen that my Surana Warden or my apostate Hawke had, I'll go into it with a fresh point of view. Maybe Cullen has changed for the better? Maybe Cullen is no longer a templar, and doesn't have the same views as before?

Well, since I'll likely create another mage protagonist, it would make sense for Cullen to have changed by that time. I certainly can't imagine him following a mage leader if he has still held onto the same views that he had in Dragon Age II (unless he's spying on the protagonist for Lambert's faction). If he hasn't changed, then Cullen might be likely. If there are any quests that have the protagonist chose between the mages or the templars, or between the Dalish and the Chantry, then I will likely make a choice that would run contrary to what Cullen would want (if he's still pro-Chantry and pro-templar in Inquisition).

[Conquerthecity]

I was looking at the theorized companions thread and Charade got a couple mentions in it. If she were indeed a companion, I might kill Hawke just to drama of her being in my party at the same time. That's a lot of hypotheticals, though, and I probably wouldn't in any other circumstance. But it really depends on context. 

Modifié par Mungolian_, 22 février 2013 - 06:41 .

[vanom66]

I need context dammit..!!!

[Darth Death]

vanom66 wrote...

I need context dammit..!!!

Initially I didn't want to give context for fear of an either or confinement. I thought it'd be interesting to see what imaginations that could be harvested from the input of others. I didn't realize how difficult this may be for some people & for that I'm sorry. Fortunately, there's context that exist currently. LobselVith8 quoted this from the last page:

"I imagine it can also be an issue of how far your new protagonist is willing to go to achieve his (or her) goals in Inquisition, like the cost of losing Leliana and Wynne if your Warden sided with Kolgrim and his Reavers. For players who really liked their respective Champion of Kirkwall, it could be a difficult issue of choosing between your prior protagonist, or a goal that is of the most paramount importance to your protagonist. I can see how a pro-templar Inquisitor might come into conflict with a pro-mage Champion, for example." 

Under these circumstances, if your pro-mage Champion forces your pro-templar Inquisitor hand, what would you do? 

Modifié par Darth Death, 22 février 2013 - 11:38 .

[Fredward]

Darth Death wrote...

vanom66 wrote...

I need context dammit..!!!

Initially I didn't want to give context for fear of an either or confinement. I thought it'd be interesting to see what imaginations that could be harvested from the input of others. I didn't realize how difficult this may be for some people & for that I'm sorry. Fortunately, there's context that exist currently. LobselVith8 quoted this from the last page:

"I imagine it can also be an issue of how far your new protagonist is willing to go to achieve his (or her) goals in Inquisition, like the cost of losing Leliana and Wynne if your Warden sided with Kolgrim and his Reavers. For players who really liked their respective Champion of Kirkwall, it could be a difficult issue of choosing between your prior protagonist, or a goal that is of the most paramount importance to your protagonist. I can see how a pro-templar Inquisitor might come into conflict with a pro-mage Champion, for example." 

Under these circumstances, if your pro-mage Champion forces your pro-templar Inquisitor hand, what would you do? 

Well I'd never, ever, ever be able to play anyone who supported the templars. Hypothetically though I'd feel absolutely no problem in killing them in that situation. As long as the confrontation wasn't railroaded. Give me the choice to run away or something. But depending on how serious the situation is I'd probably still kill my Hawke.

It would be tougher if it was just chance that we wound up on opposite sides. Or that both of us have a really important personal goal to reach. But if it's a purely ideological thing I'd kill 'em.

[Nerdage]

Not unless the writers really mess with her characterization, I can't foresee any situation where I'd choose to kill any of my Hawkes.

[Robhuzz]

I never really felt Hawke was my character, unlike the Warden. But even though I don't feel that connection, I wouldn't kill them.

Unless bioware just pulls a 180 on their personalities like they did with Merrill or Anders for example. During Awakening I never thought I'd ever have a reason to kill Anders. Let's hope they don't do something like that again...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 23 février 2013 - 06:54 .