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[ElSuperGecko]

Eterna5 wrote...
Don't blame others because you've misinterpreted what the endings actually are.

Wow, someone's clearly uncomfortable with the TRUTH presented in this thread.

Maybe these FACTS don't sit well with their elaborately crafted and ridiculously convoluted headcanon.

Maybe that's why they're getting so uptight and defensive.

Because they're getting worried.

[ATiBotka]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Wow, someone's clearly uncomfortable with the TRUTH presented in this thread.

Maybe these FACTS don't sit well with their elaborately crafted and ridiculously convoluted headcanon.

You're so funny...

[dorktainian]

ATiBotka wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Wow, someone's clearly uncomfortable with the TRUTH presented in this thread.

Maybe these FACTS don't sit well with their elaborately crafted and ridiculously convoluted headcanon.

You're so funny...

   


not as funny as you.  

[ElSuperGecko]

ATiBotka wrote...
You're so funny...

Yep.  I'm also right, and you know it.  

[AlanC9]

dorktainian wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

choices. ah yes the illusion of choice. really there is only one choice.

For Close minded people. 

way to insult the majority of BSN users.  Good job.

That's not exactly a denial of the charge.

[TheRealJayDee]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

The Reapers are a solution to the Catalyst's problem.  Not our problem.  Our problem is the Reapers - and destroying them is the only way to make them go away.

In the end it is simply hard to deny the above.

[AlanC9]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

The Reapers are a solution to the Catalyst's problem.  Not our problem.  Our problem is the Reapers - and destroying them is the only way to make them go away.

In the end it is simply hard to deny the above.

Hardly. Tame Reapers make the problem go away too.

And in Synthesis, the cycles no longer serve any purpose, so the Reaper problem goes away there too.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

AlanC9 wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

The Reapers are a solution to the Catalyst's problem.  Not our problem.  Our problem is the Reapers - and destroying them is the only way to make them go away.

In the end it is simply hard to deny the above.

Hardly. Tame Reapers make the problem go away too.

And in Synthesis, the cycles no longer serve any purpose, so the Reaper problem goes away there too.

What about when new organic life develops synthetics in say 3 billion years? What then?

[BleedingUranium]

Why couldn't the cycle start again in Control or Synthesis?

What's stopping Synthepeople from creating pure synthetics that will kill everyone?

What about new pure organic life forming in the distant future?

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 19 février 2013 - 10:28 .

[DeinonSlayer]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Why couldn't the cycle start again in Control or Synthesis?

What's stopping Synthepeople from creating Synthetics that will kill everyone?

"Gee, these crates are really heavy. We ought to make a robot to- I HAVE A BLOCK WHICH PREVENTS ME FROM PURSUING THAT ACTION. *cough* Sorry, what was I saying? Right, back to work."

[masster blaster]

Destroying the Reapers gains us everything. The only reason people should pick control is to SAVE everyone. Synthesis should not be an option to pick, because it's not needed to save everyone. Not to mention who ever built the crucible did not want synthesis, but to Destroy the Reapers. Also who wanted synthesis? Oh the catalyst, and what do you do in synthesis....give the catalyst what it wanted, and not what the galaxy wanted.

The Reapers are monsters. They may not have free will, but they have independent minds of their own. Harbinger talks about Shepard to the other Reapers. Harbinger mocks Shepard alot in ME2 a lot. Nazara tells us that Reapers are independent, and organics are an error. Ya they clearlly show signs of free thought, and speech.

Not to mention the the catalyst uses synthetics to "kill" organics. Look at the geth and quarians. Was the catalyst siding with the Geth? Yep, and did it not force the Geth to fight the Quarians? Yep. Also um....didn't the Quarians start the war between the Geth? I thought the catalyst said synthetics are the problem because they try to kill the organics? Wait it's logic, and belifes are wrong.

If you don't take my word, then take Javik's words about the Reapers.


Also thanks for reminding me why synthesis is bs. I still won't pick synthesis.

[Red Panda]

Destroy is great because it kills all galactic abominations. It's a heartwarming ending.

[masster blaster]

Destroy for the win! Also the question is.. why is everyone in synthesis not still fighting the Reapers? All synthesis ending should have done was change the galaxy's DNA, and not just everyones personalitys.

[Red Panda]

masster blaster wrote...

Destroy for the win! Also the question is.. why is everyone in synthesis not still fighting the Reapers? All synthesis ending should have done was change the galaxy's DNA, and not just everyones personalitys.

Everyone's in shock.

[clennon8]

Talking to pod people is a disturbing and ultimately frustrating experience.

Modifié par clennon8, 19 février 2013 - 10:40 .

[ElSuperGecko]

AlanC9 wrote...
Hardly. Tame Reapers make the problem go away too.

And in Synthesis, the cycles no longer serve any purpose, so the Reaper problem goes away there too.

.......nope.

In both Control and Synthesis, the Reapers persist.  They remain capable of indoctrination (should they choose to do so) they remain the most powerful and deadly individual beings in the galaxy, and they are thoroughly capable of wiping out planetary populations should they choose to do so.

As long as they exist, they are a threat.  As long as they exist, the races of the galaxy can never truly be free.

Better still, who controls them in Synthesis?  Not Shepard.  The Catalyst?  Do you even know?  Or are they free, unshackled, unleashed, free to act however they please?

If that's the case, and they decide to act aggressively, or territorwhat is left in the galaxy that could possibly stop them?

And finally - if the Catalyst still retains control over them in Synthesis - and there's nothing that tells us it doesn't - what happens if it decides it's new "perfect solution" is a failure or flawed, like it's original solution was?  What happens if the synthesised races do something to displease it?  Will it experiment on the galaxy once more?

The fact is, Destroy is the ONLY ending which removes the Reaper threat once and for all.  As I said - as long as they exist, they remain a threat.

[Enhanced]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Why couldn't the cycle start again in Control or Synthesis?

Why would it start again?

What's stopping Synthepeople from creating pure synthetics that will kill everyone?

Why would they kill everyone?

What about new pure organic life forming in the distant future?

If that does happen somehow, so what?

Modifié par Enhanced, 19 février 2013 - 10:48 .

[Solaxe]

masster blaster wrote...

Destroy for the win! Also the question is.. why is everyone in synthesis not still fighting the Reapers? All synthesis ending should have done was change the galaxy's DNA, and not just everyones personalitys.

Empathy. Pay attention to the endings. Also you can clearly see that Turians are surprised that Reapers stopped attacking.

And another, 521542154124th destroy thread. Srsly wtf people.

Modifié par Solaxe, 19 février 2013 - 10:53 .

[ElSuperGecko]

Solaxe wrote...
And another, 521542154124th destroy thread. Srsly wtf people.

We like it, because it's clearly the right choice.  Deal with it.

[BleedingUranium]

[quote]Enhanced wrote...

[quote]BleedingUranium wrote...

What's stopping Synthepeople from creating pure synthetics that will kill everyone?[/quote]

Why would they kill everyone?[quote]

The supposed problem of synthetics wiping out organics is the entire reason for Synthesis. How can it have solved that supposed problem if more synthetics can be made?

[essarr71]

Destroy is clean. Its harsh and bloody, but its clean. The Milky Way has its fate back.

Im not against head-canon. To each their own. But for every argument about the benefits of control and synth there is an equally strong counter.

Enjoy your head-canon. I insist. But, please, if youre going to knock destroy, you best be prepared to answer the tough questions with more than just "you dont get it" or "its better than genocide".

[Red Panda]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

Solaxe wrote...
And another, 521542154124th destroy thread. Srsly wtf people.

We like it, because it's clearly the right choice.  Deal with it.

What does being on the right have to do with it?

[Argolas]

You know what I like most?

The "Catalyst" effectively is the Reapers unless it is lying to us. And the Reapers out there keep killing our friends as we talk, it is effectively pointing a gun at Shepard's head. And only because it looks like a child that Shepard feels bad for, so many people don't realize it.

I really would like to know what would have happened if the slight change was made that the "Catalyst" hologram had a Reaper form and would talk it in the Reaper voice it only reveals in Refuse.

[Enhanced]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

The fact is, Destroy is the ONLY ending which removes the Reaper threat once and for all.  As I said - as long as they exist, they remain a threat.

Here's my head-canon questions:

How can you be sure that  the Reaper threat is removed once and for all? That they are really destroyed? They looked like they were just disabled. They didn't explode or anything, they just fell to the ground.

What if someone like TIM, who wanted to control them,  finds a way to reactivate them? Can the Crucible be rebuilt to send out the Destroy beam again?

Modifié par Enhanced, 19 février 2013 - 11:21 .

[masster blaster]

Solaxe wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Destroy for the win! Also the question is.. why is everyone in synthesis not still fighting the Reapers? All synthesis ending should have done was change the galaxy's DNA, and not just everyones personalitys.

Empathy. Pay attention to the endings. Also you can clearly see that Turians are surprised that Reapers stopped attacking.

And another, 521542154124th destroy thread. Srsly wtf people.

Look again. They look at their skin, and why should the war stop? Empathy? Ya let's count all the people that have died this cycle, the squadmates we lost, the people they have Indoctrinated, turning the galaxy's loved ones into foot soldiers, offering peace only to indoctrinate local leaders, harvesting organic, and not to mention everyones homeworlds are in almost complete ruins.

Yet nobody has a problem with the Reapers at all, yet there should be. If the husk do come back "alive", then wouldn't they be wanting revenge, or po for what the Reapers made them do, what they did to them, and the galaxy.

Batarians should be in rage for what the Reapers did to their home planet, and what they did to their people.
So should every races planet should be enrage.

The rachni Queen would never feel empathy towards the Reapers because, here children were taken from her, and turned into footsoldiers. She became their slave/pet. They caused her pain, and agony. Ya she would feel empathy all right.

Let's not forget the Krogan. Why should Wrex order the Krogan to stop fighting the Reapers? Empathy? Let's see the Reaoers are trying to harvest, or kill off his race on his home planet. Wrex only wanted to become a leader to be ready to face the Reapers, do to the things Wrex saw/ heard when under Shepard's squad.

The Quarians were about to get nearly killed thanks to the Reapers, who are suppost to stop synthetics for killing organics. Not to mention Tali is an admrial and she would never let her people feel empathy towards the Reapers, unless she is dead.

The Geth feel empathy towards the Reapers? Oh ya they would feel empathy towards the Reapers because it's not like the Geth wanted to fight their creators, nor wanted the Reapers to recontrol them again right. And the fact that once the Geth would have finished off their creators, what would the Reapers use the Geth for then? War.

The Turians would feel empathy for the Reapers? I am sorry, but their government is in ruins almost. Their primearch died due to the Reapers. The Reapers have destroyed Palavin to the point it's just a bright red fire planet. Not to mention if Garrus family did die on Palavin, then would Garrus even feel empathy for the Reapers? Even if they lived would Garrus feel empathy for the Reapers because without letting Sudones live, or getting Krogan support The Reapers would have killed Garrus family.

The Asari feel empathy for the Reapers? Ha. Liara would tell her people to not trust the Reapers at all, and let's see ah yes the asari would again feel empathy towards the Reapers, despite the dead bodys all over Thessia, and it's orbit. Not to mention their homes arerubble now, and they turned their kind into Banshees. This goes for every race.

The Eclor. Ah yes they feel empathy for the Reapers? No. I mean come on the eclor are fighting for their lives on their own planet. Trying to save as many people as they can, and their troops have been either huskified, or dead. Ya not to mention Shepard could go help evacuate the Eclors home planet.

Ah yes, and let's not forget the Salarians. Ya it's not like Kirrha if you let him live would allow the salarins to feel empathy towards the Reapers. Not to mention I doubt the Salarins would not want the Reapers brought to justice.

Oh and a good question to ask you, do the Reapers feel empathy towards the organics, and synthetics at all? I mean just listen to Nazara, Harbinger, and the Reaper on the Geth homeworld. Ya they feel empathy all right.