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[DanHarbinger]

It enabled me to see that there was a life beyond Mass Effect. It utterly vanquished my fixation with the franchise.

[TheRealJayDee]

PainCakesx wrote...

Hurt is kind of a strong word.

Disappointed and confused, yes.

Bob Garbage wrote...

As far as future purchases, well that depends. One thing is for sure, no more pre-orders, no more limited editions, and possible no more release day purchases. May start holding out and buy used unless it gets great reviews from the forums and gamers alike.

Disappointed about certain aspects of the game? Yes.
Confused and disappointed about Bioware's handling of things? Yes.
No more preorders and near-release purchases for the next games? Yes.

[AllThatJazz]

Nope, no hurtin' here. I thought, and still think, that ME3 is a very enjoyable game with a stupid ending (isn't the first good game I've played like that, won't be the last), and that the trilogy overall is excellent fun, but with flaws. Will most likely pick up the new dlc since there's little else of interest to me on the horizon as far as games are concerned.

I've posted a couple of times today - but as a rule I tend not to very much anymore. I find the BSN a bit depressing to be honest, can't really get involved in any threads because it seems to me they mostly end up as 'why the ending sucks' threads or 'why ME3 sucks' or 'why Bioware sucks' - and it kind of wears me down a bit reading the same sort of stuff over and over, even if the points being made have merit But since I have no right to tell people what they can and cannot post, I guess it means I have to stop lurking here so much :/ Shame though, because it used to be pretty good fun! x

[dead_goon]

Hurt?, nah, dissapointed?, yeah, thats pre EC, post EC ive long since moved on & just view it as a flawed game, one of the many out there that i still play from time to time.

[AngryFrozenWater]

"Still hurt" sounds like a poor attempt to connect emotion to the rational arguments of those who criticize ME3.

[ninjoroman]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

"Still hurt" sounds like a poor attempt to connect emotion to the rational arguments of those who criticize ME3.

Those sneaky bastards.  Does Bioware think it's fans have no logic?  (I have no idea if this question has a satisfying answer O.O)

[Celtic man51]

I was very disappointing in the ending. For about a week i was really sad where the trilogy ended up. In the end i decided i was still a fan, I wrote some fanfic for a proper ending. That said they could have done so much more with the endings.

[BearlyHere]

iakus wrote...

Yes, Bioware thoroughly broke their base.

Personally, I don't know how I'm going to trust them again

This is where I am too. The only thing I can't figure out is were they really as clueless as they appeared to be about the reaction after release, or was it deliberate sabotage so they could make the franchise into something else?

[MegaSovereign]

fiendishchicken wrote...

In the end, the only way to gauge how well ME3 hurt the franchise is to look at sales for ME4.

It's not a perfect way to look at it, but depending on sales, it might show that people don't trust EA or BW anymore.

DLC sales are relatively inconclusive right now. Some sites say that the latest dlc is the biggest selling, some say that every dlc since LotSB has been a failure.

ME4 sales won't be very conclusive. They're on next gen platforms so there's more factors involved.

Either way, I don't think the ending will have as much of an impact on sales as people think it will.

[Fingertrip]

What *filtered* majority?

[Tron Mega]

im totally butthurt about it.

what a stupid game.

ive played it twice.

....i played ME1 OVER 50 times. ME2 ive hit maybe ten play throughs.

i was done with ME3 after one playthrough. i only played it twice because WTF HAPPENED TO MASS EFFECT!?!?!?

[spirosz]

I've moved on personally, all I'm waiting to see if this last DLC will persuade me into getting into ME3 again. It's the deciding factor on the other DLCs as well. I'm not going to pay any attention to what Bioware plans for future titles because they've shown that I'm not their audience anymore and I'm fine with that and I wish them good luck, I just wish they still created games that I would love to dive in.

Modifié par spirosz, 20 février 2013 - 12:37 .

[Yate]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

"Still hurt" sounds like a poor attempt to connect emotion to the rational arguments of those who criticize ME3.

except that it's pretty much all emotion now

you'll get the occasional nutcase whining about plotholes, but I've debated with several, and so far there's nothing that doesn't make sense after around 3 minutes of logical thinking.

[spirosz]

Yate wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

"Still hurt" sounds like a poor attempt to connect emotion to the rational arguments of those who criticize ME3.

except that it's pretty much all emotion now

you'll get the occasional nutcase whining about plotholes, but I've debated with several, and so far there's nothing that doesn't make sense after around 3 minutes of logical thinking.

No it's not.  People who say this, have selected memory.  There have been many, many great threads and people critizing ME3 without resorting to any sort of "immature" attitude and yet, a lot of those threads would get closed by a mod with the statement, "Thanks for you opinion".  

You act as if pro-ME3 are not of fault of these type of behaviours, where I've seen you personally, say some pretty hurtful stuff to people (based off emotion), even if you weren't being serious, don't act all "holier than thou" becaues you enjoy the game. 

Modifié par spirosz, 20 février 2013 - 12:44 .

[LandoN7]

I spiraled into a deep introspective depression for almost the last year. Yeah I know how it sounds, but Mass Effect really meant that much to me. I found that replaying the trilogy really helped me heal the majority of the hurt.

Do I still deeply care for the series? Yes.
Am I still hurt about it? Yes.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Hurt is an odd way of putting it.  I'd say no.  In its own way, I suppose ME3 taught me a very valuable lesson about expectations, hype, and how I should be spending my money. So we'll call that a net positive.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 20 février 2013 - 12:57 .

[Cecilia L]

I'm still hurt about the ending (and lots of other things like Tali's face, massacring heterosexual femshep's LI options) but I also still think Mass Effect is the greatest thing ever in any form of media. Yes, I'm one of those crazy passionate fans.

Mass Effect 3 is like you're in this great relationship, only your partner has recently started mistreating you, but you won't leave because it's overall ok.

[Archonsg]

Dragon Age : Origins showed that Bioware can come up with multiple endings and make every one of them satisfying.
Showed how a game ending with self sacrifice can be as fulfilling as the Heroic survivor.

ME3 however failed terribly pre-ec, and failed terribly but covered it up with a layer of sugar post-ec.

I do not appreciate loosing player control, taking away my control of my character's behavior especially in a role playing game, or in post ec, given some of that control back but is slapped with a "didn't like loosing control, fine, too bad, you loose and you all die!" scenario given as an option. 

Bottom line, this is the only Bioware game with purchasable SP DLCs that I have not made any effort to buy the aforementioned DLCs.

And because of my displeasure with ME3, I have made the decision not to purchase in future, any CE editions, make any pre-orders nor even day one purchases of any Bioware producs. 

Based on recent releases, I intend to first verify what I am getting *exactly* even if it means spoiling the game for myself. Thus any titles released hence forth will be purchased at a later date preferably at a discount. 

Could Bioware win me back as an enthusiastic customer willing to buy their products blind?
Sure.
They won't however, if they keep releasing games that make me question why I bother to invest time, effort and money playing them.


ps: edited. posting from phone 

Modifié par Archonsg, 20 février 2013 - 02:16 .

[tanisha__unknown]

What is left of the fanbase on BSN is probably quite content with the current extended ending.

[Mann42]

DanHarbinger wrote...

It enabled me to see that there was a life beyond Mass Effect. It utterly vanquished my fixation with the franchise.

Visited the forums for the first time in almost a year, and this completely summarizes my opinion on the whole thing.

[hiraeth]

v0rt3x22 wrote...

Hi Guys,

I apologize in advance if I'm stiring up this topic again.

After the ME3 debacle - I left the community for a long time - and focused on other games, and I just now re-visited the site and wonder: Is the majority of the ME community still hurt from the entire ME3 debacle?

How did it affect you - in retrospect?
How do you feel about ME4 and buying future DLC or ME games in general?

Just interested to hear from you.

The ending hasn't changed (and the EC did nothing for me), so...yeah I'm still upset. Though admittedly I've been trying to channel my anger in more constructive ways on the forum. 

[Benchpress610]

Archonsg wrote...

Dragon Age : Origins showed that Bioware can come up with multiple endings and make every one of them satisfying.
Showed how a game ending with self sacrifice can be as fulfilling as the Heroic survivor.

ME3 however failed terribly pre-ec, and failed terribly but covered it up with a layer if sugar post-ec.

I do not appreciate loosing player control, taking away my control of my character's behavior especially in a role playing game, or in post ec, given some of that control back but is slapped with a "didn't like loosing control, fine, too bad, you loose and you all die!" scenario given as an option. 

Bottom line, this is the only Bioware game with purchasable SP DLCs that I have not made any effort to buy the aforementioned DLCs.

And because of my displeasure with ME3, I have made the decision not to purchase in future, any CE editions, make any pre-orders nor even day one purchases of any Bioware product.

Based on recent releases, I intend to first what I am getting *exactly* even if it means spoiling the game for myself. Thus any titles released hence forth will be purchased at a later date preferably at a discount.

Could Bioware win me back as an enthusiastic customer willing to buy their products blind?
Sure.
They won't however, if they keep releasing games that make me question why I bother to invest time, effort and money playing them.


ps: edited. posting from phone 

Pretty much where I stand. Specifically the "player control" part

[Archonsg]

BearlyHere wrote...

iakus wrote...

Yes, Bioware thoroughly broke their base.

Personally, I don't know how I'm going to trust them again

This is where I am too. The only thing I can't figure out is were they really as clueless as they appeared to be about the reaction after release, or was it deliberate sabotage so they could make the franchise into something else?

A little of both perhaps?
I know from interviews and playing a multitude of Multi-Player games, subscription based, buy to play with cash shops and "free" to play with cash shops that the trend is to go towards micro-transactions based gaming in a big way.

Take for example Planetside2 which is free to get, free to play, but God forbid if you want better equipment. Costing about US$7.00 a pop to buy weapons and upgrades, for ONE character on one server that isn't account wide nor transferable can cost the unsuspecting gamer several hundred dollars to get most of the "better" equipment.

You bet EA's bosses are drooling at the prospect of implementing such a scheme.

Why else do you think multi-player ia such a big deal? Especially competitive multi player.

As for being clueless, I sincerely doubt that they were truly 100% clueless. Tunnel visioned by their own hubris probably and refusing to admit their mistakes is more likely the scenario at hand.

Also, there are those fans who screamed bloody murder but as soon as the next hype train starts, throw their money at EA/Bioware expecting things that Bioware never said then start screaming again are at fault too.

If you aren't happy with a company's product, you should fracking stop buying till you know you'd be happy with any sold to you, but noooooo, the moment the hype train starts, they loose control and are free with their wallets and credit cards.
Morons.

Bioware isn't a friend.
It's a business.
As long as you keep buying crap, they will continue to sell you crap.
I blame those without the sense of a baby duck when it comes to being a smart consumer for the **** we get from gaming companies.

[fiendishchicken]

Jinx1720 wrote...

What is left of the fanbase on BSN is probably quite content with the current extended ending.

Haha...

You are false man.

We've all pretty much given up on a new ending, one that makes sense and fits into the story.

Now we destroyers just want to see Shepard alive and well (not the breath scene BS) and a Refusal victory.

[themikefest]

I am mostly frustrated at the way ME2 characters got cast aside.

I didn't like the fact that my femshep was not mine that I was playing in certain parts of the game.

Probably the biggest thing for me. Why can't T'Soni die with high EMS?

Modifié par themikefest, 20 février 2013 - 03:01 .