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[ElementL09]

I think he had potential to be a more unique character in Mass Effect 3 then just being a soldier in Cerberus. Could have been a better LI to femsheps though.

[d-boy15]

plenty...

but not what writers do to him in ME3, that's rude and it's like middle finger to some players.

[Iakus]

Jacob was the most normal person on teh ME2 crew, and thus the one I found most easy to identify with. I could almost imagine him as being Shepard if the whole death thing hadn't interfered and was recruited by Cerberus in a more standard fashion.

ME3, well, let's just say i feel a lot of pity for those who romanced him.

[BearlyHere]

I played 2 before I played one because it was given to me, so I didn't have the background with anyone from one. I liked Jacob, though I thought that the way his father was depicted in his loyalty mission really played into stereotypes. But Jacob was ok, and one of my femsheps romanced him. What they did to him in 3 was like a middle finger to female players.

[MacroSpamMK]

He's just a normal character.
He doesn't have any outstanding personality traits, he's not in your face and apart from his loyalty mission, he doesn't really have any outstanding issues. I've never romanced him as I don't femshep but from what I've seen, he just seems like a private character.
Nothing wrong with him, really. People just think he is boring. And I can understand why. Amidst a ship full of colourful aliens all with their own outstanding personalities and problems, Jacob kind of seems like a droid.

[Handmaiden]

I don't understand why Jacob is so disliked, I don't really care for him but he wasn't any more boring than Kaidan.

[Whybother]

Also, when I take him on his loyalty mission, he spends 30 minutes reading the datapad.

[k.lalh]

I'm about 3/8 through ME 2 on my insanity run right now (by the time I'm finished, ME3's DLC should be out.) and I just finished Jacob's loyalty mission. The part that bugs me the most about him, is the way his dialogue is written.

I'm pretty sure no one talks like that IRL. Him meeting his father has so much forced emotion, it's actually annoying...

[Gilsa]

Jacob was fine in ME2. It wasn't until I ran through his romance subplot that I actually liked his character a lot more. That's generally how it is with romances in general, that you gain more content by pursuing a character. He was a solid character that didn't have a SOB story or need to be fixed by Shepard. In fact, he established boundaries and can/will break up with Shepard if she insists on mothering/fixing whatever daddy issues she wants him to have. The priiize line is a funny meme. Overblown, but still funny.

Jacob had a different writer for ME3 so this whole cheating + baby mama thing is just not consistent with his ME2 character. It's such a big disconnect that it doesn't even register that ME2 and ME3 Jacob are supposed to be the same guy. It's like having two Beckys on Roseanne.

[Mordak55]

Don't dislike him, but after the 1st playthough I pretty much ignored him, character didn't do much for me. To be fair I liked him better in ME3, his mission was more fun than the ME2 mission. Didn't need him hanging round the hospital for the rest of the game though.

[Sc2mashimaro]

Potential, yeah. They didn't do a lot with him to start, which was the problem. He is a character without a goal or motivation most of the time. He is at his most interesting in two spots. When he cheats and during his loyalty mission. Cheating finally says something about his character, not a flattering thing, but SOMETHING. His loyalty mission gives him a significant personal issue to overcome that promptly never comes up again. One piece of his background could have been used, to make his character more interesting and unique was his choice to go from Alliance to Cerberus. But I also understand the choice to move away from him at the end of ME2 and focus on the new characters and other returning characters, rather than get stuck on a dead end.

[N7-RedFox]

We could have had a Jacob who was more like Django. Instead what was got was Urkel.


Django



Urkel

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[Bourne Endeavor]

I actually liked Jacob in ME2. He had arguably more bro moments than Garrus. Had they dropped the whole "cat in heat" approach Femshep has and given Jacob a bit more wit to his dialogue. He may have resonated better with the masses. A straight-laced character in a crew filled with crazies is not a bad concept but you need to define the character in a meaningful way. The was simply too normal with no redeeming interest that made him stand out. His lackluster moveset did nothing for him either.

[chance52]

I think a lot of the negative feelings about Jacob came from his weapons/powers being useless in most fights. He had a bad set of abilities and once you got a few squad mates in there was no reason to bring him along anymore.

So really how interesting is a squad mate that you have no reason to bring along once you get two or three missions in? But as far as the conversations, his back story and his reason for being on the ship, it all made sense and was well done. In my opinion at least.

As a character I liked Jacob, but as a teammate he needed some major overhauling (which I did on my pc version tweaking the Coalesced.ini)

[Pelle6666]

I think he disappeared behind all the other awesome characters in ME2. There was nothing wrong with his character and the loyalty mission was really good. I think that maybe if they had given him a bit more dialog after that mission he'd be easier to relate to.

[N7-RedFox]

Jacob's biggest let down was his VA. I don't think the VA understood the character at all. I think Jacob was supposed to have much more attitude but he ended up being played very tamely.

[Zkyire]

Karlone123 wrote...

This also predates ME3 as I think Jacob could have been a more favourable character if he was bit more open with Shepard (and how the romance turns out) I understand the developer's justification that characters make their own choices. I think if Jacob was wanting to have a baby with female Shepard that could have made him a bit more favourable. Jacob entering a relationship with Dr. Bryn Cole kind of shows that there was not much point to the romance. I mean what would be the fan response of Tali cheating on Shepard, I think that would be death threats. Again I understand Jacob makes his own choice to go after to another woman, it just sucks for those who wanted a relationship with him. If Shepard was already in relationship with Liara or Kaiden then Jacob would go after Dr Cole, if not then he stays faithful.

Jacob's pretty much a "normal guy" in the terms of not having a traumatic background and not being on the verge of losing his mind every now and then. He is a strong-minded character who could have had a deeper meaning, but it feels like he doesn't.  The whole "I'm just a soldier" is being humble as well as boring. I like the first few conversations you have with him but after that he doesn't want to talk much.

Initially he's too much of a "Sir, yes sir!" type of guy. Exactly the type of person you'd actually want under your command (follows orders and highly capable), but from a story perspective? He's completely bland.

But by ME3 (aside from cheating on Femshep if you picked him as your LI), he's now following his heart, rather than some superior officer's orders. So he's growing, just.. off screen.

[TheProtheans]

I don't know..... heavy risk, but the prize!

[DirtySHISN0]

Plenty.

Just no interest.

[Zkyire]

N7-RedFox wrote...

We could have had a Jacob who was more like Django. Instead what was got was Urkel.

I, what?

Comparing Jacob to a slave turned freeman out for revenge?

- Jacob was never a slave.

- Jacob is not a bounty hunter.

- Jacob is not looking for revenge against anyone.

Why would you.. I just.. what?

[macrocarl]

I am a huge fan of the ME series - loved everything except that I felt Jacob's fake black dude dialog in ME2 ruined him for me. It was cringe-worthy to be specific. Also I didn't really see how his story wasn't buttoned up in ME2 after his loyalty mission. That pretty much goes for all the new ME2 squaddies minus what they achieved in ME3. I can understand fans wanting to see their favorites more of course but narrative-wise there wasn't a heck of a lot left for them to do.

[N7-RedFox]

Zkyire wrote...

N7-RedFox wrote...

We could have had a Jacob who was more like Django. Instead what was got was Urkel.

I, what?

Comparing Jacob to a slave turned freeman out for revenge?

- Jacob was never a slave.

- Jacob is not a bounty hunter.

- Jacob is not looking for revenge against anyone.

Why would you.. I just.. what?

No ur missing the point. Django has attitude, badassery and one hell of a shot. Jacob... tame, fumbles his words all the time, not that impressive on the battlefield.

[kalasaurus]

Whybother wrote...

I think a lot of his character issues would have been overlooked if he wasn't so thoroughly useless in missions. He is completely useless in his own loyalty mission and gets killed even in easy mode. The only action he's ever seen outside recruiting Mordin is getting to be one of the squad leaders during the Suicide Mission because I know I won't want him in my squad.

Haha, Jacob only sees the entrance of Omega before I recruit Zaeed and send him back to the Armory for good.

[FlyingSquirrel]

It seems like every Mass Effect game starts with Shepard's squad consisting of a "stand-up guy" male character (Kaidan, Jacob, James) and a somewhat edgier female character (Ashley, Miranda, Liara). I think Jacob was most important for the early stages of ME2, as somebody Shepard could trust a little more easily than Miranda or the Illusive Man. But after the squad expands to include Garrus, Tali, and some other non-Cerberus types, Jacob is just kind of there, aside from the few post-mission scenes where he voices an opinion about something.

The other problem was the bizarrely flirtatious tone of FemShep's "let's talk" options - with most of my FemSheps, I avoid talking to Jacob outside of the regular "investigate" options just because the lines sound so randomly out-of-character.