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[JKinho]

I think that third time's the charm (pinnacle station's no announcement, RtO delays)

[Crimzon Nutcase]

Dahelia wrote...

 
SNIP SNIP SNIP

Sit there Seething while listening to Seether. Good band, I know the Lead singer, nice fellow.



As for Mr. Melo. I have to thank you for at least giving us a small portion of knowing that the DLC is very close to being patched up. Hopefully this means that after it's released, everyone can sit back, and enjoy some relaxation. I know you guys have got to be wanting to strangle quite a few of us in the forums, and I can't blame you.

Modifié par Crimzon Nutcase, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:33 .

[Silensfurtim]

Fernando,



If ever you are looking into the "leaked" version, I hope in the following days that you would give us the comparison between the leaked version and the real final version. Some peoples confidence are waning and they want assurance for the quality of the future products that your company will produce.



I'm not gonna lie, I don't know how you feel as a company. I know you want RtO to be released with the highest possible quality. But then again, RtO is just a tiny footnote in your company's resume. A $4, hour-long DLC. A tiny content and everybody went berserk. What about your future projects? If this happens again I don't know if people will be less tolerable.

[Dahelia]

Crimzon Nutcase wrote...


Sit there Seething while listening to Seether. Good band, I know the Lead singer, nice fellow.



As for Mr. Melo. I have to thank you for at least giving us a small portion of knowing that the DLC is very close to being patched up. Hopefully this means that after it's released, everyone can sit back, and enjoy some relaxation. I know you guys have got to be wanting to strangle quite a few of us in the forums, and I can't blame you.

Actually...I was listening to Remedy like 3 minutes ago...XD

Modifié par Dahelia, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:34 .

[drewciferpsn66]

Haha... that's too funny, My copy of spore is wedged behind my monitor and the wall covered in a nice thick layer of dust with a single finger print on it from when I reached back to see what game it was then quickly set it back down once I identified the waste it was. I'm sure it would make a nice coaster so I don't get rings on my desk though.

[fanman72]

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

Ah, this gives me hope! *crosses fingers*

Just ignore the haters by the way.  They haven't coded or engineered a goddamn thing in their life and don't know how the corporate world is run

[Dahelia]

fanman72 wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

Ah, this gives me hope! *crosses fingers*

Just ignore the haters by the way.  They haven't coded or engineered a goddamn thing in their life and don't know how the corporate world is run

Hasn't your mother told you about what happens when you assume????

[ZaroktheImmortal]

I'm sure they have good reasons for delaying the release. I can wait a bit longer. Though I do hope hope they release it soon. But people will complain as they do. Yahtzee said it best



"Fans are whiny clinging dip****s who will never be pleased with any concession you make. The sooner you drown out their shrill tremulous voices the happier you’ll be."

[Silensfurtim]

Hmmm..



If they are about to finish testing today, that means we still get another week before M$ and Sony/PS3 finish the certification process.

[wikkedjoker]

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

"We -are- working on it."

"It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today"

I’m so proud of you.
 That’s all people are looking for, better updates.
I mean if your not going to tell us the why, tell us what’s being done and how far along what is being done is. Even if your not giving an ETA, saying things like, its off to testing, or we just did this, or that, or looks like we fixed the bug, but it opened 50 more, expect delays. Lead Dev got into a car crash , broke his leg, expect delays.

When this sort of things happens, constant updates are a good thing. Trust me, you just deal with people online, that again you don’t have to deal with.

I deal with very angry, very redneck people all the time that would not think twice about punching you for not having the right answer.  

[Terranak Zhul]

Say what you will, BIOWARE has produced some of the best games I have ever played. If for some reason they choose not to release a product before it is up to their quality standards, who am I to argue. Had they chose to put it out there as is, I am certain that the negative responses would have made the whining due to a missed release date pale in comparison.
 
I tip my cap to the ladies and gentlemen at BIOWARE for taking pride in the products they produce. I would expect no less from them than any other company I choose to do business with.

As for this purported bootleg version, I hope that the people at BIOWARE and the powers that be can stem the flow and if possible justifiably prosecute the individuals for copyright infringement.

Unless you are a gaming programmer and /or infinitely familiar with the engine used to power the game, a description of the problem would most likely confuse you/us even more. And if you are a gaming programmer and /or infinitely familiar with the engine used to power the game, you should know that sometimes the smallest bug can create the biggest problem, whatever it may be.

Games have been delayed and release dates missed since computers and gaming consoles became common place.
And I can't think of a single miss that caused a true catastrophe. Even if they scrap this DLC entirely, which I doubt they would do, I don't see it as a world ending event.
 
Disappointments are a fact of life, but I seriously doubt that BIOWARE would intentionally want to disappoint any of their fans.

[Livemmo]

Silensfurtim wrote...

Fernando,

If ever you are looking into the "leaked" version, I hope in the following days that you would give us the comparison between the leaked version and the real final version. Some peoples confidence are waning and they want assurance for the quality of the future products that your company will produce.

I'm not gonna lie, I don't know how you feel as a company. I know you want RtO to be released with the highest possible quality. But then again, RtO is just a tiny footnote in your company's resume. A $4, hour-long DLC. A tiny content and everybody went berserk. What about your future projects? If this happens again I don't know if people will be less tolerable.

Are you serious? Do you know what kind of gargabe other companies release as 'DLC'?? Yes this is $5 content but look how much time and care is going into it? If this wasnt Bioware the content would already be released. It shows alot to have such care put into a $5 piece of content and if anything you should respect that.

Are you basically saying that you're glad the content got leaked? I really hope to god you're not. Next time when theres a few bugs maybe it will be released? Obviously it goes unappreciated and this 'leak' is like spitting in their face. It makes me sick.

[Cheshire Madcat]

fanman72 wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

Ah, this gives me hope! *crosses fingers*

Just ignore the haters by the way.  They haven't coded or engineered a goddamn thing in their life and don't know how the corporate world is run

Ack, coding, the first day of programing class we were told to use the book to make a working calculator by the end of class.

Did it, but it was a major pain. (Visual Basic class)

[Cheshire Madcat]

Terranak Zhul wrote...

Say what you will, BIOWARE has produced some of the best games I have ever played. If for some reason they choose not to release a product before it is up to their quality standards, who am I to argue. Had they chose to put it out there as is, I am certain that the negative responses would have made the whining due to a missed release date pale in comparison.
 
I tip my cap to the ladies and gentlemen at BIOWARE for taking pride in the products they produce. I would expect no less from them than any other company I choose to do business with.

As for this purported bootleg version, I hope that the people at BIOWARE and the powers that be can stem the flow and if possible justifiably prosecute the individuals for copyright infringement.

Unless you are a gaming programmer and /or infinitely familiar with the engine used to power the game, a description of the problem would most likely confuse you/us even more. And if you are a gaming programmer and /or infinitely familiar with the engine used to power the game, you should know that sometimes the smallest bug can create the biggest problem, whatever it may be.

Games have been delayed and release dates missed since computers and gaming consoles became common place.
And I can't think of a single miss that caused a true catastrophe. Even if they scrap this DLC entirely, which I doubt they would do, I don't see it as a world ending event.
 
Disappointments are a fact of life, but I seriously doubt that BIOWARE would intentionally want to disappoint any of their fans.

((Thumbs UP))

[fanman72]

Dahelia wrote...

fanman72 wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

Ah, this gives me hope! *crosses fingers*

Just ignore the haters by the way.  They haven't coded or engineered a goddamn thing in their life and don't know how the corporate world is run

Hasn't your mother told you about what happens when you assume????

Blah blah blah like many others on this forum, you're acting like an annoying ****.  These things happen.  Take it easy.  I want to play RtO as much as anyone else here, but I'm not going to jump down Bioware's throat as I highly doubt the inability to meet their own date was due to neglect, laziness, or sloppiness given the quality of their products.  

I've been in their shoes before.  Nothing is more irritating in realizing that you couldn't meet a date largely due to factors outside of their own control (unforseen bugs, management changes their mind, new customer specifications, etc) but still eating crap from 30 different end users from the same company while the culprit (usually management) gets off easy and doesn't have to answer to legions of pissed off people


And the truth is, unless you're familiar with the source code and have a lengthy programming background, you probably WONT understand what the bug is and what it means.  It's that simple.  It'll end up confusing half of the people here and open up to more questions 

Modifié par fanman72, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:41 .

[TastyLaksa]

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

I'm sure they have good reasons for delaying the release. I can wait a bit longer. Though I do hope hope they release it soon. But people will complain as they do. Yahtzee said it best

"Fans are whiny clinging dip****s who will never be pleased with any concession you make. The sooner you drown out their shrill tremulous voices the happier you’ll be."

That's misquoted IMO. He was referring to unjustified complaints and ideas of what the game should be like. For example if i said

"Mages should have back stab skills!" or "Omg nerf mages" or "Omg too many warriors"

not nearly the same as

"Why is the DLC delayed last minute?"

[Livemmo]

well now heres what were seeing. since its been 'leaked' its more than likely going to be rushed out the door with the same bugs/problems it had a week ago and now we have buggy content. thanks! goodjob.



you people screw yourselves and then ask why. its so funny.

[fanman72]

Terranak Zhul wrote...

Say what you will, BIOWARE has produced some of the best games I have ever played. If for some reason they choose not to release a product before it is up to their quality standards, who am I to argue. Had they chose to put it out there as is, I am certain that the negative responses would have made the whining due to a missed release date pale in comparison.
 
I tip my cap to the ladies and gentlemen at BIOWARE for taking pride in the products they produce. I would expect no less from them than any other company I choose to do business with.

As for this purported bootleg version, I hope that the people at BIOWARE and the powers that be can stem the flow and if possible justifiably prosecute the individuals for copyright infringement.

Unless you are a gaming programmer and /or infinitely familiar with the engine used to power the game, a description of the problem would most likely confuse you/us even more. And if you are a gaming programmer and /or infinitely familiar with the engine used to power the game, you should know that sometimes the smallest bug can create the biggest problem, whatever it may be.

Games have been delayed and release dates missed since computers and gaming consoles became common place.
And I can't think of a single miss that caused a true catastrophe. Even if they scrap this DLC entirely, which I doubt they would do, I don't see it as a world ending event.
 
Disappointments are a fact of life, but I seriously doubt that BIOWARE would intentionally want to disappoint any of their fans.

Thumbs up

[Jer_LRR]

Fernando Melo wrote...

It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  

Speaking of the end of your day, it occurs to me that it is presently almost 3:00 am in Edmonton.

You guys are obviously working super hard on this - thank you.

[Dahelia]

fanman72 wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

fanman72 wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

Ah, this gives me hope! *crosses fingers*

Just ignore the haters by the way.  They haven't coded or engineered a goddamn thing in their life and don't know how the corporate world is run

Hasn't your mother told you about what happens when you assume????

Blah blah blah like many others on this forum, you're acting like an annoying ****.  These things happen.  Take it easy.  I want to play RtO as much as anyone else here, but I'm not going to jump down Bioware's throat as I highly doubt the inability to meet their own date was due to neglect, laziness, or sloppiness given the quality of their products.  

I've been in their shoes before.  Nothing is more irritating in realizing that you couldn't meet a date largely due to factors outside of their own control (unforseen bugs, management changes their mind, new customer specifications, etc) but still eating crap from 30 different end users from the same company while the culprit (usually management) gets off easy and doesn't have to answer to legions of pissed off people


And the truth is, unless you're familiar with the source code and have a lengthy programming background, you probably WONT understand what the bug is and what it means.  It's that simple.  It'll end up confusing half of the people here and open up to more questions 

Blah blah blah....like many others in this forum, you think you can justify and scream at me because I asked a simple question. Grow up....it is silly for you to assume that I have no idea how to code...you do not know me, you do not know what I am capable of or what my degrees are in. Like I said, did your mother ever teach you about what happens when you assume. I asked a simple question, I got an answer, I said okay I wasn't going to argue at now..4:43am because it is pointless to argue on only 3 hours of sleep. Sooo...bite me?

[Silensfurtim]

Livemmo wrote...

Are you serious? Do you know what kind of gargabe other companies release as 'DLC'?? Yes this is $5 content but look how much time and care is going into it? If this wasnt Bioware the content would already be released. It shows alot to have such care put into a $5 piece of content and if anything you should respect that.

If there was no "Holiday Season" and "January 5" then this wouldnt happen. I dont care if they release it on May as long as they dont give us false hopes for $4, hour-long DLC. 

Are you basically saying that you're glad the content got leaked? I really hope to god you're not. Next time when theres a few bugs maybe it will be released? Obviously it goes unappreciated and this 'leak' is like spitting in their face. It makes me sick.

Uhh no. Im not glad the content got leaked. I have 400 bioware points in their money server banks getting no interest for about a month.

[Terranak Zhul]

Well said fanman72

[TastyLaksa]

Oops

Modifié par TastyLaksa, 12 janvier 2010 - 09:45 .

[wikkedjoker]

Cheshire Madcat wrote...

fanman72 wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

An early version or not, an answer other than...we are looking into it and everything else would be by far better...that is like telling us to shut up. You might be angry that someone leaked your DLC...and bragged that there is not one problem with it...we are pissed that we are sitting here waiting for an answer and we are treated like children.

We -are- working on it.  We're communicating that as much as we are able to.  It is in the final stages of testing as of end of day today.  We're close.  Why, or how, does that make you feel like you are being treated like a child?  Being upset, I can certainly understand - and share the sentiment.

Ah, this gives me hope! *crosses fingers*

Just ignore the haters by the way.  They haven't coded or engineered a goddamn thing in their life and don't know how the corporate world is run

Ack, coding, the first day of programing class we were told to use the book to make a working calculator by the end of class.

Did it, but it was a major pain. (Visual Basic class)

Dude your telling me.
First week I had to use the book to run a program I knew nothing about ((Java based)) to make a guy, and make him run from point A) to point . Most everyone failed, it was to show us that it wasnt as easy as we thought it would be.

Again I'm not ****ing because they have bugs, I get that I'm ****ing about there PR.

[TastyLaksa]

Livemmo wrote...

well now heres what were seeing. since its been 'leaked' its more than likely going to be rushed out the door with the same bugs/problems it had a week ago and now we have buggy content. thanks! goodjob.

you people screw yourselves and then ask why. its so funny.

So you're saying Bioware is lying for having just posted that te leaked version is incomplete and they have been working on the DLC and that they are not going to rush the release?