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[Aladisa]

Well not sure this is verified but if you keep up with Greywardens .com.It may be that the delayed is in the console patch.Being as it is stated the console patch and RTO are connected if i read that correctly.

[Aladisa]

http://greywardens.com/feed/ article here if any1 is interested

[leeboi2]

jennamarae wrote...

Cybercat999 wrote...

They do seem to get shorter each time, dont they?

That they do. It's like there's a contest going on for shortest thread about RTO.

I won that one by miles, i had 7 replies then it got locked (Y) Good stuff. 1 of them replies was me and none of the others were serious, they all just said "incoming lock" and stuff like that

Modifié par leeboi2, 11 janvier 2010 - 12:38 .

[Ginasue]

I will wait until it's release. Wouldn't be looking at any P copy of it at all. I don't like P's never have and never will.

But an interesting note for some of you maybe. I use to have a hacker, a bonefided Hacker help me with my mod all the time.

[DragonRageGT]

Ginasue wrote...

I will wait until it's release. Wouldn't be looking at any P copy of it at all. I don't like P's never have and never will.
But an interesting note for some of you maybe. I use to have a hacker, a bonefided Hacker help me with my mod all the time.

While I really respect everyone's option, I still insist that P's are those who make CD's or DVD's of something and sell them for profit and believe me, there are lots of them.

Modifié par RageGT, 11 janvier 2010 - 05:55 .

[addiction21]

Ginasue wrote...

I will wait until it's release. Wouldn't be looking at any P copy of it at all. I don't like P's never have and never will.
But an interesting note for some of you maybe. I use to have a hacker, a bonefided Hacker help me with my mod all the time.

My name is P and I do not like you either

I am suprised this has not been locked yet since it is nothing but a snide remark in a long line of them made by the OP. 
Warlord seems to want it locked as well. I see he is continuing his crusade of how the mods do everything wrong and are horribly unrespectfull people even after several times being told this is not the place and where to take his grievances too. (hint hint warlord its not here and like I said you are not solving anything you are as much of the problem as those you attack)  You have been assualting them for days now and claim they are partaking in some sort of facist sensoring of these forums yet if that was true you yourself would have been banned and all your posts deleted.
The attacks, slander, snide and sarcastic remarks do nothing but get yet another thread locked.  It is astounding to see those that are most against threads getting locked are mostly the ones that contribute to that making it happen.
Non of these things will get BW to release RtO faster or be more willing to talk with the community.

RESPECT it is a two way street. You do not deserve it if you are not willing to give it.

[Ginasue]

Rage, yes they are the ones who sell them for profit, but I feel that I need to support the people who did all the hard work in making the game to begin with. I play on Facebook, a few games. Now I will support the makers of some of those game, with buying a few bucks or Godfather points to help them along.

I have seen many spots where you could get around them and get free points or something here and there, and I stay away from those.

It was also just like Windows 7. I was a Beta Tester for it. When it came time, I removed the beta verision, went out and brought Windows 7.



I use to also a long time ago test for Altari, If I tested a game, gave them the feed back,when it was time, Brought the game.



Also remember this I was on the CEP Team for NWN, which ment I got the CEP to test long before others got to see it. Since I had to download it, and then put it in my mod. I had to be very careful of who also from my Mod got to test along with me. We would test then I would let Barry know what we found wrong so he could pass it on to fix it, and if it was a conflict between CEP and Bioware, that they could also be aware and fix it.

Think about it then, I could have Ped the CEP out to others long before CEP was released, but I wouldn't do that.

[BrianWilly]

nevermind.

Modifié par BrianWilly, 11 janvier 2010 - 01:57 .

[jennamarae]

leeboi2 wrote...

I won that one by miles, i had 7 replies then it got locked (Y) Good stuff. 1 of them replies was me and none of the others were serious, they all just said "incoming lock" and stuff like that

We have a winner then! Cookies for you!

[Dennis Carpenter]

@RageGT thats a nice spin you put on something illegal to justify it for yourself but viewing the facts (downloading and playing an illegal copy of a protected product) illegal is still illegal no matter how you spin it and yes the best defense in arguing is to throw dirt at the other person to take the focus off of the real issue software piracy. I dont pre-judge anyone merely look at the facts. And no I am not a saint by any means but do try to do the right thing as much as possible and stay out of court or jail.



But that is just my opinion and hopefully Bioware can find the perpetrator and have some legal recourse.

[Sloth Of Doom]

addiction21 wrote...


I am suprised this has not been locked yet since it is nothing but a snide remark in a long line of them made by the OP. 
Warlord seems to want it locked as well. I see he is continuing his crusade of how the mods do everything wrong and are horribly unrespectfull people even after several times being told this is not the place and where to take his grievances too. (hint hint warlord its not here and like I said you are not solving anything you are as much of the problem as those you attack)  You have been assualting them for days now and claim they are partaking in some sort of facist sensoring of these forums yet if that was true you yourself would have been banned and all your posts deleted.
The attacks, slander, snide and sarcastic remarks do nothing but get yet another thread locked.  It is astounding to see those that are most against threads getting locked are mostly the ones that contribute to that making it happen.
Non of these things will get BW to release RtO faster or be more willing to talk with the community.

RESPECT it is a two way street. You do not deserve it if you are not willing to give it.

After reading the first couple of pages of this thread I was going to write something similar, but you seem to have beaten me to it.

Speaking of beatings;  It is nice to see so many of the the people who only whine and troll in one thread.

[jennamarae]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

[Speaking of beatings;  It is nice to see so many of the the people who only whine and troll in one thread.

Ahem..

[T1l]

Despite me having an account to a certain site which has this particular DLC for download, I'm not going near it. I intend to buy the DLC when (if?) it's released and it would be pretty easy for Bioware to stick in a small piece of code on the end of the official Return to Ostagar that would make your save file unusable if you'd previously been using a p!rated version. Not that I honestly think they'd do that - but I don't want to risk it.

I've got better things I need to do, anyway, rather than lose sleep over 1 hour of gameplay.

What I do find interesting is that people who have been playing RtO haven’t been reporting any “quality” issues at all. It’s solid. Finished. Done. So… the real question now is; why did Bioware pull it at the last minute and why did they tell a white lie to the community?

I'm guessing it was a marketing decision of some kind.

[T1l]

jennamarae wrote...

Ahem..

That's a tea-pot, not a kettle.

[DragonRageGT]

IBTL

Bio-Boy 3000 wrote...

Alistair: "Here I thought we were getting along so well! I was even going to name one of my children after you - the grumpy one!"

Re-EDIT: Might name him "The Rage" one! =)

Modifié par RageGT, 11 janvier 2010 - 05:56 .

[T1l]

RageGT wrote...

...as long as I'm not making CD's of it and selling it of course!...

That's exactly correct. You're not profiteering. They will take no legal action. At all. Zero.

[Silensfurtim]

This DLC fiasco has really gone bad. I mean, if **** happens like this then it will also happen in the future DLC.

Im really excited about the release though. Not because of the new content, but what the community's reaction will be. With all the thousands of whiny/complaint posts, several locked threads, numerous delays and false promises, and for a 15 minute DLC (ok fine, 1 hour DLC then) with rehashed content, and even news of pirated RtO, Bioware needs to release a very high quality, very satisfying, and very worthwhile Return to Ostagar. Because if not, hells gonna break lose. Everybody's gonna be disappointed and angry because of the amount of time they focused for the anticipation of a mediocre RtO.

PS: Is my post, thread lock-worthy enough? 

Modifié par Silensfurtim, 11 janvier 2010 - 05:24 .

[jennamarae]

T1l wrote...
That's a tea-pot, not a kettle.

Picky.

[TastyLaksa]

Valkeyr wrote...

TastyLaksa wrote...

I'm a bit curious if bioware will ever reveal what the bug was that caused the delay at a last minute. The curiosity is killing me

They won't. For there is no bug. Mark my words, When Rt:O will be released, no one at BW will say what bug caused it to be delayed for WEEKS when it was hours away from release. I can't really say what I think that, but it's the elephant in the room that's just calling for attention.

Now the following is just a guess but I believe they're trying to add content to RT:O before its live.
First RT:O is announced with a $5 price tag and one hour gameplay. People complain.
The price tag goes down to $3 but delayed a week or two, less people complain.
Then a few hours before release, its delayed for what may be a month and the price is back to $5. a lot more people complain.


I think they're trying to add something that will justify the $5 price tag without having anyone complain.
With ME2 almost released, and the dragon age expansion this year (maybe in 2 months if its not delayed) putting out a disappointing DLC may hurt sales in the long run.  Delayed it a few weeks will cause 2 things

1) They have more time to make it better, increasing customer satisification and putting a higher price tag on it .
2) If the product is bad or not of the quality fans expected, It still will be released after ME2 so day one ME2 sales won't be hurt by disgruntled fans.


/flame shield on

If they really delayed it to add more content then it's rather smart as a business decision. But what are the chances content is being added?

[TastyLaksa]

SoulOfAeons wrote...

To tell you honestly i really don't mind the wait, as long as it gets released and we can enjoy it and share our experiences on here with friends and strangers alike that makes up for the lost time all by itself. Also i find it's great that Bioware has employees who spend some time on here talking with us, i mean heck even David Gaider of all people. I'm in the middle of reading the books and i'm enjoying every minute. Mr Gaider you've made another fan of your books and i hope you write some more in the future since i'm hooked to the lore of Dragon Age.

I for one think Mr Gaider should stick to his day job  

[Dennis Carpenter]

RageGT wrote...


EDIT: Dennis, I'm referring to the one whom I quoted first, not you! Avoiding misundertanding. And some of his friends comments as well.

Thanks no offense taken and no misunderstanding, I just wonder why discussions of this nature even take place. Yes I have been in jail (for minor offenses) and have even lived on the street as a younger man so I am not perfect but in my early computer days I lived on limewire and such downloading everything I could get my hands on. Then it became illegal ot do that and since then I have downloaded nothing that wasn't legal or allowed by the person who created it. So knowing that act is in itself illegal why do it? It cant be to save a lousy $5 bucks and it cant be because you are so hooked on the game you just have to have it or have it first (given that maybe some psychological help might be needed). Dont flame me it is just an example and not directed at anyone in particular,so taking those two examples out of the equation why do it?????????  And why does everyone get so defensive about something illegal.??????

Anyone answereing either of those would be interesting for me hope to see some intelligent explanations

Thanks everyone.

[T1l]

TastyLaksa wrote...

If they really delayed it to add more content then it's rather smart as a business decision. But what are the chances content is being added?

Zero? The DLC is done. People are playing it. It's completed. They're not going to waste man-hours adding arbitrary content when they don't have to. Bioware is sitting on it for a reason, likely a marketing one. They need to launch RoT when it's going to be most profitable.

[TastyLaksa]

Spectre 117 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

EricXIII wrote...
The lock decision you took was wrong from the begining..I dont think that more then 10 people were discussing the whole pirate sybject,so unless you wanted us to shut our mouths about the RtO delay you should warn/ban the guys that were breaking the rules.By closing it you shuted the mouths of those that truly wanted to discuss the matter of the delay and not of the pirated client of RtO

I'm not "shutting the mouth" of anyone. Your being here is proof of that. I closed the thread since warnings don't seem to last longer than the page they're on -- and the people who do continue to break forum rules by discussing pirated software will indeed be banned. In this case it's a situation of one bad apple spoiling the barrel. As it is, you're free to continue discussing the delay, aren't you?

I actually agree with what you guys did.I mean if you (Bioware) would have release that dlc with a major game crashing error people would have complained a lot more.But im curious about this dlc,how long is it?

The DLC is 1hr played by first timer and 15 minutes played by developers as stated in a post long time ago. Or you can think of it this way. Warden's keep was $7, they priced RTO at $5 to reflect "value for money" so it probably plays around the length of warden's keep.