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The M-11 Wraith is better than the Claymore.


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Annomander wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Maybe, but can a Wraith take down an unshielded Atlas in a single shot?


(has this been asked already? tl/dr)


We already lol'd at ashen for not being able to take down an atlas in a single cast of flamer.


Undoctored video proof or gtfo...:blush:

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Don't you walk away, Ashen Earth. You started this war, plunged BSN into chaos; and now the empire is gonna put you down.


And restore the peace!

Underlined area is where you misquoted slightly, dare ye not misquote Michael Hogan.

Anyway, Wraith wins on caster classes because the wraith being less than half the weight more than makes up for the ~8% DPS lost over not choosing the Claymoar.
Also the straight DPS argument is sorta putting aside the fact that the Wraith is more accurate, and is more likely to land all of its pellets than the Claymoar, thus more likely to achieve its theoretical DPS.

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

When is the last time u saw a Krogan bash something dead with a Wraith?

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www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par ManRightChea, 20 février 2013 - 10:40 .


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Major Durza wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Don't you walk away, Ashen Earth. You started this war, plunged BSN into chaos; and now the empire is gonna put you down.


And restore the peace!

Underlined area is where you misquoted slightly, dare ye not misquote Michael Hogan.

Anyway, Wraith wins on caster classes because the wraith being less than half the weight more than makes up for the ~8% DPS lost over not choosing the Claymoar.
Also the straight DPS argument is sorta putting aside the fact that the Wraith is more accurate, and is more likely to land all of its pellets than the Claymoar, thus more likely to achieve its theoretical DPS.


OUT THE AIRLOCK DURZA.

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UnknownMercenary wrote...

Annomander wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Maybe, but can a Wraith take down an unshielded Atlas in a single shot?


(has this been asked already? tl/dr)


We already lol'd at ashen for not being able to take down an atlas in a single cast of flamer.


Hmm.. what if... with a full damage spec GI, Warp IV, primed by a biotic power, prox mine, tac scan and recon mine?

Don't forget the +800%dmg from thermal clips, that's the key.

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Wraith > Claymore

Agreed.

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Hey look, something we agree on. :P Wraith is lighter, reloads faster, has better accuracy and has two shots instead of one. Wraith is the best shotgun imho.

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Flaming Snake wrote...

Wraith > Claymore

Agreed.


The airlock is that way. Please show yourself out.

Modifié par BurningLiquor, 20 février 2013 - 10:49 .


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Does a Krogan with hipster glasses exist?

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Invader Nemesis wrote...

Hey look, something we agree on. :P Wraith is lighter, reloads faster, has better accuracy and has two shots instead of one. Wraith is the best shotgun imho.

wraith>claymore.ok

but not the best shotgun;)

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Ash has been saying this since...well ever pretty much. I remember him extemporizing on the virtues of the Wraith back when most of the BSN thought it sucked for some weird reason.

Flaming Snake wrote...

Wraith > Claymore

Agreed.


I'm more interested in your body than your opinion to be quite honest. :innocent:

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Cheylus wrote...

Does a Krogan with hipster glasses exist?

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Lol @ platform wars in this thread. I own a 360 and a PC.

Strengths of both, weaknesses of neither :)

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Cheylus wrote...

Does a Krogan with hipster glasses exist?

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That pic hurts my eyes, CV.

Also, that Krogan deserves a Claymore shot the face.

Modifié par BurningLiquor, 20 février 2013 - 10:50 .


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Nothing says "I'm a console scrub" better than "Wraith > Claymore".

The Wraith is not even close to being on the Claymore's league.

Fact 1 : The Claymore does a lot more damage

Fact 2 : A reload canceled Claymore fires almost as fast as a Wraith

Fact 3 : You can hide the Claymore's reload with every single power in the game. Then your efficiency goes through the roof because you're pretty much always dealing damage. You typically have to reload only once before the cooldown's up. Or not at all if you have grenades. Do this with a Wraith. Oh wait, you can't.

Fact 4 : A Claymore can OHK Ravagers. Really useful when you just happen to bump into one. With a Wraith, that Ravager will have time to fire before it's dead. Also a lot easier to OHK Phantoms. And with a Drell/Batarian Adept, you can OHK Brutes. Yeah, Brutes. B)

Fact 5 : The Claymore doesn't have an awkward fire delay

Fact 6 : The Wraith is for girls. The Claymore is for men. 

Fact 7 : Cooldowns are overrated. If you care that much about them, use an Arc Pistol.

Fact 8 : Why do I bother arguing with scrubs ? :blink: There's a reason why every single Wraith apologist are on xbox.

Modifié par Feneckus, 20 février 2013 - 10:49 .


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ManRightChea wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

When is the last time u saw a Krogan bash something dead with a Wraith?

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www.youtube.com/watch


Clearly that was an eviscerator, and the Wraith is even more badass than that.
So... win.

Also where SP makes Shepard out to be a lot less badass, he was running away from a few Ravagers, while Grunt solos them with an Eviscerator and melee without an omniblade.

They are meant for different tasks, Wraith is better on casters.  However, if the class's powers are crap, then the Claymoar makes the class viable.

The claymoar really does make any class efficient, but there is a point where a class would be more efficient if it was able to cast more.  In this case, the powers make up for the ~8% weapon DPS that the class loses switching from Claymoar to Wraith.

Modifié par Major Durza, 20 février 2013 - 10:53 .


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BurningLiquor wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Cheylus wrote...

Does a Krogan with hipster glasses exist?


That pic hurts my eyes, CV.


Only your eyes?

My brain is sending my hands error 404 signals.

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This looks fun. Better get my pop corn.
Almost as entertaining as a silvair thread.

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Eckswhyzed wrote...

Lol @ platform wars in this thread. I own a 360 and a PC.

Strengths of both, weaknesses of neither :)


Don't pretend like you play ME3 on XBox. You crushed my dreams when you gave up on that after what, one afternoon?

I'll treasure those three hours for the rest of my life though. Or at least until I find something better to do with my time.

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Feneckus wrote...

Nothing says "I'm a console scrub" better than "Wraith > Claymore".

The Wraith is not even close to being on the Claymore's league.

Fact 1 : The Claymore does a lot more damage

Fact 2 : A reload canceled Claymore fires almost as fast as a Wraith

Fact 3 : You can hide the Claymore's reload with every single power in the game. Then your efficiency goes through the roof because you're pretty much always dealing damage. You typically have to reload only once before the cooldown's up. Or not at all if you have grenades. Do this with a Wraith. Oh wait, you can't.

Fact 4 : A Claymore can OHK Ravagers. Really useful when you just happen to bump into one. With a Wraith, that Ravager will have time to fire before it's dead. Also a lot easier to OHK Phantoms. And with a Drell/Batarian Adept, you can OHK Brutes. Yeah, Brutes. B)

Fact 5 : The Claymore doesn't have an awkward fire delay

Fact 6 : The Wraith is for girls. The Claymore is for men. 

Fact 7 : Cooldowns are overrated. If you care that much about them, use an Arc Pistol.

Fact 8 : Why do I bother arguing with scrubs ? :blink: There's a reason why every single Wraith apologist are on xbox.


i bet you were sweating before posting that. prepare your anus

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_only1biggs_ wrote...

i bet you were sweating before posting that. 


I did have a mini heart attack when I read the thread.

I mean, I'd expect Ashen Earth to believe the Wraith is better, he's a scrub. But seeing so many people agree with him was WTF worthy.

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holdenagincourt wrote...

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Lol @ platform wars in this thread. I own a 360 and a PC.

Strengths of both, weaknesses of neither :)


Don't pretend like you play ME3 on XBox. You crushed my dreams when you gave up on that after what, one afternoon?

I'll treasure those three hours for the rest of my life though. Or at least until I find something better to do with my time.


That's why I only said own ;)

I have both M+K and dual sticks skillz:devil:

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ManRightChea wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

When is the last time u saw a Krogan bash something dead with a Wraith?

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www.youtube.com/watch

He fired 3 shots and almost got killed. Wrex fired one shot and kicked the crap out of Ravager sacs.

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Feneckus wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

i bet you were sweating before posting that. 


I did have a mini heart attack when I read the thread.

I mean, I'd expect Ashen Earth to believe the Wraith is better, he's a scrub. But seeing so many people agree with him was WTF worthy.


Think of it like how a caveman thinks a big rock is a more effective weapon than a firearm. The pro-Wraith side can see all of the advantages it has, the pro-Claymore side can only see *smash!*. 

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Feneckus wrote...



Fact 6 : The Wraith is for girls. The Claymore is for men. 



Okay. :happy: