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The M-11 Wraith is better than the Claymore.


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It depends on the level you have. My Wraith II is no match for my Claymore X, but if I had a higher level Wraith, I would definitely use it more.

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GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Who cares what the console peasants think? They are playing noob school at 30FPS whilst we have to deal with harder AI at 60FPS.

When you console schmucks get a chance to see what a Platinum Marauder burst or Possessed Captain burst does to you at 60FPS, you will wet yourselves.

Console players are better.



Haha, come with some evidence. We've got proof now that the AI difficulty is scaling with FPS. If you would like to be illuminated to how you are wrong, feel free to peruse the link in my sig.


I think your easy mode controls makes up for the omgwtfbbq harder AI you guys are facing. From every video footages I've seen, and only the RNG God knows how many videos I've watched, I didn't see that much of a difference. Plus, I tried the PC version months ago and found myself to have quite an easy time because mouse & keyboard is so much better than a controller.


Negative peasant, bring proof or I will ignore your anecdotal evidence.


Maybe you should try and get proof yourself like I did instead of spouting bullsh!t. I'm certainly not gonna try to help you with that attitude of yours.


Click the link in my sig if you want proof. Big huge thread full of it.


As far as I know those values are PC exclusive, so you can't tell if it works the same with consoles versions as we cannot mod files like on PC.

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ISHYGDDT

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Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Who cares what the console peasants think? They are playing noob school at 30FPS whilst we have to deal with harder AI at 60FPS.

When you console schmucks get a chance to see what a Platinum Marauder burst or Possessed Captain burst does to you at 60FPS, you will wet yourselves.

Console players are better.



Haha, come with some evidence. We've got proof now that the AI difficulty is scaling with FPS. If you would like to be illuminated to how you are wrong, feel free to peruse the link in my sig.


I think your easy mode controls makes up for the omgwtfbbq harder AI you guys are facing. From every video footages I've seen, and only the RNG God knows how many videos I've watched, I didn't see that much of a difference. Plus, I tried the PC version months ago and found myself to have quite an easy time because mouse & keyboard is so much better than a controller.


Negative peasant, bring proof or I will ignore your anecdotal evidence.


Maybe you should try and get proof yourself like I did instead of spouting bullsh!t. I'm certainly not gonna try to help you with that attitude of yours.


Click the link in my sig if you want proof. Big huge thread full of it.


As far as I know those values are PC exclusive, so you can't tell if it works the same with consoles versions as we cannot mod files like on PC.


Denial: it's not just a river in Egypt.

Seriously though, these comparisons are borderline meaningless anyway.  The difference in control scheme is huge.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 21 février 2013 - 05:19 .


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holycrap 20 pages lmao, i guess i need to give this a browse.

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Original Stikman wrote...

RedJohn wrote...


you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer


Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...


lol...no


With the claaaic damage specced gi of course

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To sorta end this console war, coming from someone who has played the game on XBox and PC I can say that the game is many times better on PC than XBox. That's why I only play XBox for the weekend challenges now.

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I don't even have those guns! >.<

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ScarletN7 wrote...

I don't even have those guns! >.<

lol

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Oh mah lordy this is still going on.

All I know is when I play the xbox version now I feel like I'm drunk and I'm not i swear, srsly.

Also to repeat myself again for those who haven't seen, due to the gameplay mechanics of both versions...

Wraith bettar 4 teh console
Claymore bettar 4 teh comp00ter

I've done teh research myself
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ISHYGDDT

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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Wraith bettar 4 teh console
Claymore bettar 4 teh comp00ter


What's that have to do with anything? :blink:

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Knockingbr4in

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Who cares what the console peasants think? They are playing noob school at 30FPS whilst we have to deal with harder AI at 60FPS.

When you console schmucks get a chance to see what a Platinum Marauder burst or Possessed Captain burst does to you at 60FPS, you will wet yourselves.

Console players are better.



Haha, come with some evidence. We've got proof now that the AI difficulty is scaling with FPS. If you would like to be illuminated to how you are wrong, feel free to peruse the link in my sig.


I think your easy mode controls makes up for the omgwtfbbq harder AI you guys are facing. From every video footages I've seen, and only the RNG God knows how many videos I've watched, I didn't see that much of a difference. Plus, I tried the PC version months ago and found myself to have quite an easy time because mouse & keyboard is so much better than a controller.


Negative peasant, bring proof or I will ignore your anecdotal evidence.


Maybe you should try and get proof yourself like I did instead of spouting bullsh!t. I'm certainly not gonna try to help you with that attitude of yours.


Click the link in my sig if you want proof. Big huge thread full of it.


As far as I know those values are PC exclusive, so you can't tell if it works the same with consoles versions as we cannot mod files like on PC.


Denial: it's not just a river in Egypt.

Seriously though, these comparisons are borderline meaningless anyway.  The difference in control scheme is huge.


Which was my point to begin with anyway.

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Tried both on Platinum - Wraith X and Claymore X. I don't really like either of them that much, but I would much rather use the Claymore on a GI or a grenade class due to cooldown synergy.

Then again, best guns for GI are Hurricane, Talon and
Spoiler


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Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

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It's like a giant slapfight in dis thread.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Wraith bettar 4 teh console
Claymore bettar 4 teh comp00ter


What's that have to do with anything? :blink:


Reload cancelling can't be done as well on xbox, even if you are teh bestest. 
I used the claymore a lot on console, but it wasn't until I switched to PC that I really liked it and it passed the Wraith as my favorite shotty. Most of the people who prefer the wraith are on console and most of the people who prefer the Claymore are on PC from what I've seen.

I don't know numbers and whatnot but from my experience and what looks like the collective experience this is the conclusion I have come to.

*Also does someone want to tell me if this thread is worth going through? Is it fun goofy stuff or console war madtime?

Modifié par BACON4BREAKFAST, 21 février 2013 - 05:53 .


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Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.

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darkpassenger2342

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I have shunned my claymore because of the BSN.

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ISHYGDDT

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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Wraith bettar 4 teh console
Claymore bettar 4 teh comp00ter


What's that have to do with anything? :blink:


Reload cancelling can't be done as well on xbox, even if you are teh bestest. 
I used the claymore a lot on console, but it wasn't until I switched to PC that I really liked it and it passed the Wraith as my favorite shotty. Most of the people who prefer the wraith are on console and most of the people who prefer the Claymore are on PC from what I've seen.

I don't know numbers and whatnot but from my experience and what looks like the collective experience this is the conclusion I have come to.

*Also does someone want to tell me if this thread is worth going through? Is it fun goofy stuff or console war madtime?


Some of it is fun stuff,  I think the last 5 pages are sort of supercereal console warz though.

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

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Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

Kill all the Elves. Skyrim belongs to the Nords.

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Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.

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longgamma wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

RedJohn wrote...


you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer


Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...


lol...no


With the claaaic damage specced gi of course


lol, people still responding to this?

What part of "non-infiltrator/debuffer" do people not understand???

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saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


I concur. Fallout series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls Series.

Come at me.

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Original Stikman wrote...

longgamma wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

RedJohn wrote...


you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer


Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...


lol...no


With the claaaic damage specced gi of course


lol, people still responding to this?

What part of "non-infiltrator/debuffer" do people not understand???


Well since you brought it back a Krogan Sentinel can absolutely one shot a Ravager without incendiary ammo. All it needs is a Shotgun Amp and Drill Rounds III.

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chipsandwich wrote...

Tried both on Platinum - Wraith X and Claymore X. I don't really like either of them that much, but I would much rather use the Claymore on a GI or a grenade class due to cooldown synergy.

Then again, best guns for GI are Hurricane, Talon and

Spoiler


But the Typhoon sucks stop using it on weapons classes. I bet you're a filthy scrub who uses rail amps and appropriate ammo consumables as well. :sick: