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The M-11 Wraith is better than the Claymore.


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#501
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My vote goes to the Claymore.

Because I'm a casual and I only have the Wraith at I.

Statistically, though, there are good reasons to use both. Use of the Wraith will leave you exposed to more gunfire unless you're using soft cover, and it doesn't have the advantage of killing nearly every non-boss enemy in a single-shot, properly specced. Killing things in one shot, even with a lower overall DPS, still has an advantage in that it decreases the enemy's capability of damaging you, with relatively minimal risk.

Frankly, though, I find the Graal to be a personal favorite, with the Claymore either tied or slightly above the Graal. Krogan weaponry is great, with Batarian and Geth following soon after. Wraith doesn't feel as satisfying for me to use either, but that really doesn't relate to the weapon's actual effectiveness.

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saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


Console war.

Console war never changes.

#503
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cowwy wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


I concur. Fallout series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls Series.

Come at me.


I didn't play Fallout 1 and 2 until after 3. They were really hard or I just suck at them.

Morrowind and Oblivion however have brought me lots of joy, mostly from stealing everyone's sheet.

*The post above me is perfect, I missed it while I was posting :/

Modifié par BACON4BREAKFAST, 21 février 2013 - 06:16 .


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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

cowwy wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


I concur. Fallout series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls Series.

Come at me.


I didn't play Fallout 1 and 2 until after 3. They were really hard or I just suck at them.

Morrowind and Oblivion however have brought me lots of joy, mostly from stealing everyone's sheet.




My problem with the Elder Scrolls Series is that they felt waaay too easy even on the hardest difficulty. Especially Skyrim. Master difficulty on Skyrim is a freakin cakewalk compared even to Fallout 3 or NV, though I haven't tried any difficulty altering mods to be fair.

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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

cowwy wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


I concur. Fallout series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls Series.

Come at me.


I didn't play Fallout 1 and 2 until after 3. They were really hard or I just suck at them.

Morrowind and Oblivion however have brought me lots of joy, mostly from stealing everyone's sheet.




I only played Skyrim.  I'm not a big midieval high-fantasy fan.  I just kind of got bored with it after a while.
 

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^Skyrim doesnt end, you must quit.

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

^Skyrim doesnt end, you must quit.


Yeah, but wasn't their supposed to be some sort of uber dragon on a mountain I was supposed to fight or something?

Anyway, I got tired of being randomly ambushed by wildlife anytime I decided to cut through an open field.

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Wraith is badass.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

^Skyrim doesnt end, you must quit.


Yeah, but wasn't their supposed to be some sort of uber dragon on a mountain I was supposed to fight or something?

Anyway, I got tired of being randomly ambushed by wildlife anytime I decided to cut through an open field.


idk since i was level 81 having barely played any of the  main story >.<
i never even beat the game, it just keeps going anyway.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 21 février 2013 - 06:22 .


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cowwy wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

cowwy wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


I concur. Fallout series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls Series.

Come at me.


I didn't play Fallout 1 and 2 until after 3. They were really hard or I just suck at them.

Morrowind and Oblivion however have brought me lots of joy, mostly from stealing everyone's sheet.




My problem with the Elder Scrolls Series is that they felt waaay too easy even on the hardest difficulty. Especially Skyrim. Master difficulty on Skyrim is a freakin cakewalk compared even to Fallout 3 or NV, though I haven't tried any difficulty altering mods to be fair.


The appeal to me for Morrowind and Oblivion was stealing crap and doing random things not combat related (I think I never bothered finishing the main quest of Morrowind). That's why I hated Skyrim because they focused on the main campaign/combat. While there are good sidequests they don't compare to the two before (plus there wasnt anything good to steal). Fallout 3 and NV better for combat/loot type play, Morrowind/Oblivion better for stealing crap and messing around with goofy sidequests (IMO of course).

*I know Fallout has a lot of good sidequests as well, but Morrowind especially had a massive amount of interesting content.

Modifié par BACON4BREAKFAST, 21 février 2013 - 06:25 .


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21 pages already?

That's a good deal of dropped popcorn in half a day- which reminds me that I'm hungry.

Hungry for more Claymore use.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 21 février 2013 - 06:25 .


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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

The appeal to me for Morrowind and Oblivion was stealing crap and doing random things not combat related (I think I never bothered finishing the main quest of Morrowind). That's why I hated Skyrim because they focused on the main campaign/combat. While there are good sidequests they don't compare to the two before (plus there wasnt anything good to steal). Fallout 3 and NV better for combat/loot type play, Morrowind/Oblivion better for stealing crap and messing around with goofy sidequests (IMO of course).


One of the greatest quests ever is the Wang Dang Atomic Tango quest in New Vegas.

:ph34r:d

Modifié par cowwy, 21 février 2013 - 06:27 .


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Why are people still talking about the Claymore or Wraith this thread is for talking about skyrim or fallout duhh

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cowwy wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

The appeal to me for Morrowind and Oblivion was stealing crap and doing random things not combat related (I think I never bothered finishing the main quest of Morrowind). That's why I hated Skyrim because they focused on the main campaign/combat. While there are good sidequests they don't compare to the two before (plus there wasnt anything good to steal). Fallout 3 and NV better for combat/loot type play, Morrowind/Oblivion better for stealing crap and messing around with goofy sidequests (IMO of course).


One of the greatest quests ever is the Wang Dang Atomic Tango quest in New Vegas.

:ph34r:d


I gotcha with my ninja skills. I realised after I read it I made it sound like Fallout was just doing main quest and shooty everything.

Lol at Quest name. I actually never finished NV for whatever reason, maybe I'll go at it again.

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How in the hell is this thread not closed?

To become a truly legendary BSN thread, it needs to be closed.

#516
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FO1 > FNV > FO2 > FO3

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Domnuxx wrote...

How in the hell is this thread not closed?

To become a truly legendary BSN thread, it needs to be closed.

It'll be closed, don't worry.

#518
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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

cowwy wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

The appeal to me for Morrowind and Oblivion was stealing crap and doing random things not combat related (I think I never bothered finishing the main quest of Morrowind). That's why I hated Skyrim because they focused on the main campaign/combat. While there are good sidequests they don't compare to the two before (plus there wasnt anything good to steal). Fallout 3 and NV better for combat/loot type play, Morrowind/Oblivion better for stealing crap and messing around with goofy sidequests (IMO of course).


One of the greatest quests ever is the Wang Dang Atomic Tango quest in New Vegas.

:ph34r:d


I gotcha with my ninja skills. I realised after I read it I made it sound like Fallout was just doing main quest and shooty everything.

Lol at Quest name. I actually never finished NV for whatever reason, maybe I'll go at it again.


I'll admit that NV isn't nearly as good as Fallout 3, the atmosphere is not as good and there seems to be much less direction for where to go for the main questline. Also it took me like 3 different attempts before I finally beat it, just because I kept quitting and started playing something else.

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Threads....threads never changes.

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BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

cowwy wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

cowwy wrote...

saints 944 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Now this thread is about console war. Soon a divine sword of Mods will slay it.


It seems more like a parody thread about how threads go on the BSN.
That's why I don't think it's that legendary.
Also the lack of Skyrim talk.

I liked the talk about Fallout more.


I concur. Fallout series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elder Scrolls Series.

Come at me.


I didn't play Fallout 1 and 2 until after 3. They were really hard or I just suck at them.

Morrowind and Oblivion however have brought me lots of joy, mostly from stealing everyone's sheet.




My problem with the Elder Scrolls Series is that they felt waaay too easy even on the hardest difficulty. Especially Skyrim. Master difficulty on Skyrim is a freakin cakewalk compared even to Fallout 3 or NV, though I haven't tried any difficulty altering mods to be fair.


The appeal to me for Morrowind and Oblivion was stealing crap and doing random things not combat related (I think I never bothered finishing the main quest of Morrowind). That's why I hated Skyrim because they focused on the main campaign/combat. While there are good sidequests they don't compare to the two before (plus there wasnt anything good to steal). Fallout 3 and NV better for combat/loot type play, Morrowind/Oblivion better for stealing crap and messing around with goofy sidequests (IMO of course).

*I know Fallout has a lot of good sidequests as well, but Morrowind especially had a massive amount of interesting content.

In fallout I like going into a base/cave with the crappiest stuff on and comming out like a Brotherhood of steel
https://encrypted-tb...7u4klk0dUaJMgnX

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N1GHTHeR0 wrote...

Threads....threads never changes.

The Console peasents waged war to gather respect and recognition. Master Race built an empire from its lust for power and superiority. EA shaped an already successful company into an economic superpower.

But threads never changes

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 21 février 2013 - 06:37 .


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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

^Skyrim doesnt end, you must quit.


Yeah, but wasn't their supposed to be some sort of uber dragon on a mountain I was supposed to fight or something?

Anyway, I got tired of being randomly ambushed by wildlife anytime I decided to cut through an open field.


idk since i was level 81 having barely played any of the  main story >.<
i never even beat the game, it just keeps going anyway.


That's sort of the peril of those kinds of games.  I eventually just lost track of what completely interchangeable sidequest I was doing and just kept levelling up.
 

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 21 février 2013 - 06:35 .


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ISHYGDDT wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

^Skyrim doesnt end, you must quit.


Yeah, but wasn't their supposed to be some sort of uber dragon on a mountain I was supposed to fight or something?

Anyway, I got tired of being randomly ambushed by wildlife anytime I decided to cut through an open field.


idk since i was level 81 having barely played any of the  main story >.<
i never even beat the game, it just keeps going anyway.


That's sort of the peril of those kinds of games.  I eventually just lost track of what completely interchangeable sidequest I was doing and just kept levelling up.
 

I had fun the first time playing the Oasis quest in FO3. 95% of my game was side quests and blowing sh*t up with Mini-Nukes. Though, for games like FO and Elder Scrolls, I like there to be a balance between main story and side quests. FO3 kind of suffered from the "too many side quests, not enough story" thing, even though I liked the game overall.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 21 février 2013 - 06:44 .


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chipsandwich wrote...

FO1 > FNV > FO2 > FO3


Is New Vegas really that good?  3 left such a bad taste in my mouth, that I had no interest in New Vegas.  

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Conclusion:  Wraith > Claymore.

Of course Talon >> Wraith but that doesn't matter for this discussion.


Haven't finished reading the thread, but this is the only thing that matters.