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[vonSlash]

I could care less about the speedrunning merits of both weapons, nor do I particularly care much about their comparative rarity. I'll always pick the Wraith over the Claymore, regardless of level, simply because the Wraith doesn't require animation-cancelling gimmicks to be halfway decent.

[GunWraith]

me0120 wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

My dad can beat up your dad.

^
What I read.

My father is deceased. However if he was still with us, he would indeed educate the aforementioned person's father in the manly art of fisticuffs.

[TheCandlejack]

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

Fail troll is fail right now. "I say PC is behtur bcuz i haz thread link in sig and can't back it up any furthur. lolololololololo console scrubz." Try harder.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 21 février 2013 - 08:18 .

[Saints]

Personally I don't mind either shotguns.

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

TheCandlejack wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Oh dear not this again.

Comparing difficulty between platforms is apples to oranges.

Apparently PC has it harder due to 60-120 FPS, but makes up for it with mindblowingly easy controls.

Like I said you can't compare difficulty between platforms. I've played both extensively so I believe I have more authoritaaah than you one-siders.

[Greyfrogx]

........, I don't like Bethesda games.....

[PR PistonRage]

R0binME wrote...

PR PistonRage wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It's hard to believe there are still so many Claymore fanboys when we have a gun that deals nearly 75% of the Claymore's damage with less than half the weight.

Unless you don't give a damn about cooldowns, the Wraith is better.

Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.

Got to say that I can't tell you you're wrong. Aside from it being my favourite gun right now it is more use to more characters than the Claymore. I use it on my Volus, Asari, Humans, Krogans. Hell most characters I play work with it. Plus you can kill from great distances.

Granted, my experience with the Claymore isn't as vast but as it took one game to love the Wraith, I have only had one game where I loved the Claymore and it was with a Krogan.

Reload cancel. 
That being said, both Claymoar and Wraith are great guns.

As I said, my Claymore experience isn't as vast. Since I last used it sometime last year I have mastered reload cancel soooo... well, lets just say that because of this thread I shall be dusting off my Claymore this afternoon and giving her some TLC. And the enemy hell!

Modifié par PR PistonRage, 21 février 2013 - 08:21 .

[darkpassenger2342]

i use all the weapons: i generally get the impression that the serious claymore enthusiasts use only the claymore, partially because they post that way.
posts such as " fire claymore shot" in stead of "shoot weapon"
im not building all my characters to use one gun just because its easy.
its such a contradiction, if the gun is the best, why do the best players use it?
using one gun just because its the best is absurd to me personally, but people can have fun however they want.

[Saints]

Greyfrogx wrote...

........, I don't like Bethesda games.....

We are done with that. I do though switch shotguns between characters.

[Sovereign24]

Cooldowns are overrated for the most part imo. Unless your running in the negative, I've never found too many issues running casters with heavy heapons.

I regularly run a Claymore with my SE and it works great.

Modifié par Sovereign24, 21 février 2013 - 08:24 .

[Sovereign24]

Plus lets not forget that they Claymore sounds like a boss while the Wraith sounds like a wimp.

[Knockingbr4in]

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

You clearly have the time to troll though. Funny that.

Have fun in your rampant idiocy.

[GunWraith]

TheCandlejack wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

Fail troll is fail right now. "I say PC is behtur bcuz i haz thread link in sig and can't back it up any furthur. lolololololololo console scrubz." Try harder.

I do believe your illustration of my answer lacks a certain je ne sais quoi, but why should I bother explaining something that you or anyone else can read in a matter of moments?

However, since I am nothing if not helpful, the simple fact is that there are discrepancies in the way shieldgate acts and enemy aim the higher (or lower) the frame rate. Based on observations, consoles do not appear to have these discrepancies at their locked in rate of 30 frames per second.

Ergo, while PC users have easier controls, they also face an enemy with much better aim and shieldgate does not appear to function correctly the higher you go in FPS.

Due to this, console peasants have easier enemies and a better functioning sheildgate. This means that while your controls are more difficult to score headshots with or reload cancel, you don't have to worry about getting slaughtered while you fumble around killing things.

Modifié par GunWraith, 21 février 2013 - 08:32 .

[PR PistonRage]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i use all the weapons: i generally get the impression that the serious claymore enthusiasts use only the claymore, partially because they post that way.
posts such as " fire claymore shot" in stead of "shoot weapon"
im not building all my characters to use one gun just because its easy.
its such a contradiction, if the gun is the best, why do the best players use it?
using one gun just because its the best is absurd to me personally, but people can have fun however they want.

(Off topic) So the other day I switched my Destoyers bond mate (Typhoon) for a Pheaston and this was welcomed my gasps of WTF are you doing purportions. Until I outscored them all emensely! Try it. Seriously. Don't be bound to one gun.

[GunWraith]

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

You clearly have the time to troll though. Funny that.

Have fun in your rampant idiocy.

I took the time to explain in my preceding post. Hopefully it is not worded in too difficult a fashion. Please do let me know; if I must I will try to simplify it to a level you will understand.

[Saints]

Reegar shotgun is ok though.

[GunWraith]

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Oh dear not this again.

Comparing difficulty between platforms is apples to oranges.

Apparently PC has it harder due to 60-120 FPS, but makes up for it with mindblowingly easy controls.

Like I said you can't compare difficulty between platforms. I've played both extensively so I believe I have more authoritaaah than you one-siders.

I have an aquaintance who used to play on PS3, he says PC is more difficult. I would have him post, but he doesn't like BSN for some reason.

[PR PistonRage]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i use all the weapons: i generally get the impression that the serious claymore enthusiasts use only the claymore, partially because they post that way.
posts such as " fire claymore shot" in stead of "shoot weapon"
im not building all my characters to use one gun just because its easy.
its such a contradiction, if the gun is the best, why do the best players use it?
using one gun just because its the best is absurd to me personally, but people can have fun however they want.

(Off topic) So the other day I switched my Destoyers bond mate (Typhoon) for a Pheaston and this was welcomed by gasps of WTF are you doing purportions. Until I outscored them all emensely! Try it. Seriously. Don't be bound to one gun.

[TheCandlejack]

GunWraith wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

Fail troll is fail right now. "I say PC is behtur bcuz i haz thread link in sig and can't back it up any furthur. lolololololololo console scrubz." Try harder.

I do believe your illustration of my answer lacks a certain je ne sais quoi, but why should I bother explaining something that you or anyone else can read in a matter of moments?

However, since I am nothing if not helpful, the simple fact is that there are discrepancies in the way shieldgate acts and enemy aim the higher (or lower) the frame rate. Based on observations, consoles do not appear to have these discrepancies at their locked in rate of 30 frames per second.

Ergo, while PC users have easier controls, they also face an enemy with much better aim and shieldgate does not appear to function correctly the higher you go in FPS.

Due to this, console peasants have easier enemies and a better functioning sheildgate. This means that while your controls are more difficult to score headshots with or reload cancel, you don't have to worry about getting slaughtered while you fumble around killing things.

Okay, fair enough explanation. But explain this to me, if console scrubs have it so easy compared to PC, why are there so many reports of PC players sucking balls at playing a console? It should be a breeze for them.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 21 février 2013 - 08:34 .

[GunWraith]

PR PistonRage wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i use all the weapons: i generally get the impression that the serious claymore enthusiasts use only the claymore, partially because they post that way.
posts such as " fire claymore shot" in stead of "shoot weapon"
im not building all my characters to use one gun just because its easy.
its such a contradiction, if the gun is the best, why do the best players use it?
using one gun just because its the best is absurd to me personally, but people can have fun however they want.

(Off topic) So the other day I switched my Destoyers bond mate (Typhoon) for a Pheaston and this was welcomed by gasps of WTF are you doing purportions. Until I outscored them all emensely! Try it. Seriously. Don't be bound to one gun.

Didn't you post this earlier?

[GunWraith]

TheCandlejack wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

Fail troll is fail right now. "I say PC is behtur bcuz i haz thread link in sig and can't back it up any furthur. lolololololololo console scrubz." Try harder.

I do believe your illustration of my answer lacks a certain je ne sais quoi, but why should I bother explaining something that you or anyone else can read in a matter of moments?

However, since I am nothing if not helpful, the simple fact is that there are discrepancies in the way shieldgate acts and enemy aim the higher (or lower) the frame rate. Based on observations, consoles do not appear to have these discrepancies at their locked in rate of 30 frames per second.

Ergo, while PC users have easier controls, they also face an enemy with much better aim and shieldgate does not appear to function correctly the higher you go in FPS.

Due to this, console peasants have easier enemies and a better functioning sheildgate. This means that while your controls are more difficult to score headshots with or reload cancel, you don't have to worry about getting slaughtered while you fumble around killing things.

Okay, fair enough explanation. But explain this to me, if console scrubs have it so easy compared to PC, why are there so many reports of PC players sucking balls at playing a console?

When you are born with a mouse and keyboard in your hands, nothing else functions the same.

[TheCandlejack]

GunWraith wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

TheCandlejack wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

GunWraith wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

So how exactly PC having it easy because of the controls is wrong? Please do tell.

Read the thread link in my sig. I don't have hours to explain it to you.

You'll have to do better than that.

I don't have to do anything. Trundle along in blissful obliviousness if you wish.

Fail troll is fail right now. "I say PC is behtur bcuz i haz thread link in sig and can't back it up any furthur. lolololololololo console scrubz." Try harder.

I do believe your illustration of my answer lacks a certain je ne sais quoi, but why should I bother explaining something that you or anyone else can read in a matter of moments?

However, since I am nothing if not helpful, the simple fact is that there are discrepancies in the way shieldgate acts and enemy aim the higher (or lower) the frame rate. Based on observations, consoles do not appear to have these discrepancies at their locked in rate of 30 frames per second.

Ergo, while PC users have easier controls, they also face an enemy with much better aim and shieldgate does not appear to function correctly the higher you go in FPS.

Due to this, console peasants have easier enemies and a better functioning sheildgate. This means that while your controls are more difficult to score headshots with or reload cancel, you don't have to worry about getting slaughtered while you fumble around killing things.

Okay, fair enough explanation. But explain this to me, if console scrubs have it so easy compared to PC, why are there so many reports of PC players sucking balls at playing a console?

When you are born with a mouse and keyboard in your hands, nothing else functions the same.

Sadly, that also means you're cursed to a long, hard road of virginity.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 21 février 2013 - 08:36 .

[cowwy]

I go off to play Counter Strike for like an hour and this devolves into a super cereal console war again.

[TheCandlejack]

cowwy wrote...

I go off to play Counter Strike for like an hour and this devolves into a super cereal console war again.

Well, Mr. Hardcore PC man with an FPS measurement thread on hand came back <_<

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 21 février 2013 - 08:37 .

[cowwy]

TheCandlejack wrote...

cowwy wrote...

I go off to play Counter Strike for like an hour and this devolves into a super cereal console war again.

Well, Mr. Hardcore PC man with an FPS measurement thread on hand came back <_<

Honest question, are you mad? And what are you talking about?