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The M-11 Wraith is better than the Claymore.


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#51
dragaaan

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the wraith is pretty good and i do use it on some of my classes but as long as we have reload cancels it won't outscore a claymore :(
and of corse CLAYMOAAAAR

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Wraith is for sissly like Geth and Quarian who somehow manage to miss the first shot or unable to kill more than one target with a single shot.


*Looks at Ashen's Avi.. looks at my Avi..* Posted Image

#53
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adi21 wrote...

Sure and Raider beats both of them.
Deploying flameshield.

Flameshield is useless. The moment you forsake Lord Claymore, you are destined to burn in hell.

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Isn't the claymore the noob gun for noobs ?

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jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.


OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.

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SKhalazza wrote...

Isn't the claymore the noob gun for Gods?


Yes, yes it is ;___;

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Ashen Earth wrote...

It's hard to believe there are still so many Claymore fanboys when we have a gun that deals nearly 75% of the Claymore's damage with less than half the weight.

Unless you don't give a damn about cooldowns, the Wraith is better.

Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.


I'm a huge wraith fan and have been before people thought it was cool. I agree its better on 90% of the classes. I love the wriath:wub:

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Ramsutin wrote...

Apl_J wrote...

Oh man, this thread is gonna get hilarious when the PC folks get here


We are already here :wizard:
These console scrubs who can't reload cancel just want to be heard every once in a while.


Wait PC folks can't reload cancel? Works fine on consoles.

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My Claymore X might be generally better than my Wraith IV(PC)/II(Xbox), but there are a lot more kits I'd bring a lower level Wraith over ClayX. There are also a lot of other weapons in general I would use over ClayX depending on the kit, but respect to those that relish in the glory of the Claymoar.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.


OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.



l2aim


Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Wraith is for sissly like Geth and Quarian who somehow manage to miss the first shot or unable to kill more than one target with a single shot.


Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 20 février 2013 - 07:51 .


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jrm_ayun

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.


OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.


Umm doesn't it having the higher dps just prove that =]

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Crimson Vanguard

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Ramsutin wrote...

SKhalazza wrote...

Isn't the claymore the noob gun for Gods?


Yes, yes it is ;___;

Lord Claymore led me to victory over the Reaper on the very soil of sunny Tuchanka.

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Since I tend to use biotics or melee biotics, I find myself running the wraith. Claymore just gets *really* heavy with an omni-blade. CDs aren't everything, but I do need to fire off powers once in a while.

I do love the sweet, deadly rhythm of a finely-wielded, reload-cancelled claymore.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

ndw542 wrote...

I predict Gallows will show up and this will turn into another reload canceling thread.


Yes please.

RedJohn wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Stop right there heathen scums. You have tarnished the Lord's name. Prepare to be burnt on the stake.


I can't hear you over the sound of superior weapons murdering enemies more efficiently than the Claymore.



More efficiently?, wow it seems i woke up in a paralel universe this morning :/

PS: L2P 


Wraith and Claymore are both capable of killing anything that isn't a boss in one shot.

If you can't do that with a Wraith it's your own fault for having terrible aim. There are also plenty of other lighter weapons that make a joke of the Claymore.

L2P


Wraith can't take a Ravager as claymore do.

Aiming?, come on console peasant, you have never seen a headshot medal :innocent:



L2P

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dragaaan wrote...

the wraith is pretty good and i do use it on some of my classes but as long as we have reload cancels it won't outscore a claymore :(
and of corse CLAYMOAAAAR


I've outscored many Claymore apologists with a Wraith.

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The only reason why you love Wraith is because its 2 shots, because they always fail the first one. :P

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RedJohn wrote...

The only reason why you love Wraith is because its 2 shots, because they always fail the first one. :P



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Differences in opinion on an internet forum thread.

Will wonders never cease...

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ISHYGDDT

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SavagelyEpic wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.


OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.



l2aim


Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Wraith is for sissly like Geth and Quarian who somehow manage to miss the first shot or unable to kill more than one target with a single shot.


I hope you realize that if you knew how to aim you could kill 2 human sized enemies for every one you kill with the Claymore.  Because if you're not trolling, that's just sad.


jrm_ayun wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.


OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.


Umm doesn't it having the higher dps just prove that [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie]


DPS ceases to matter when you kill in one shot.  Claymore DPS being greater than Wraith DPS only matters vs. bosses.  If you are intelligent about enemy prioritization, you only need to kill two bosses per gold wave vs. ~20 'normal' enemies.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 20 février 2013 - 07:56 .


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Out the airlock with you.

But actually I would agree that on console the Wraith is a better gun.

However on PC the Claymore reigns supreme.

I have done the research myself, come at me:police:

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RedJohn wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

ndw542 wrote...

I predict Gallows will show up and this will turn into another reload canceling thread.


Yes please.

RedJohn wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Stop right there heathen scums. You have tarnished the Lord's name. Prepare to be burnt on the stake.


I can't hear you over the sound of superior weapons murdering enemies more efficiently than the Claymore.



More efficiently?, wow it seems i woke up in a paralel universe this morning :/

PS: L2P 


Wraith and Claymore are both capable of killing anything that isn't a boss in one shot.

If you can't do that with a Wraith it's your own fault for having terrible aim. There are also plenty of other lighter weapons that make a joke of the Claymore.

L2P


Wraith can't take a Ravager as claymore do.

Aiming?, come on console peasant, you have never seen a headshot medal :innocent:



L2P


you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

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Annomander wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ndw542 wrote...

I predict Gallows will show up and this will turn into another reload canceling thread.


Lol. Bsn is quite predictable, yep!


As I read the title to Ashen's troll thread, I thought.

" I predict the PC elitists will turn up and start bashing the peasants for their insolence."

BSN is quite predictable.


Its not like the two are mutually exclusive.  There've been plenty of combo threads.  BSN can't play out Godwin's Law, since the acronym for the National Socialist German Workers' Party is ironically cencored.  So, instead, as any given thread's length increases, the probability that it will devolve into some combination of: a platform war, RC-flamebaiting, the Great Prothean "Debate,"  Infiltrators' cheapness, or balance change whining approaches 1.  

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Wraith is a much better weapon than the Claymore IMO, which is why it is UR and the Claymore is R. Wraith at high level can compete with the Claymore's damage, is 2 shots, quick reload, and has one of the highest damage-per-shot to weight profiles in the game. The Claymore reload cancelled is a closer fight, but that still can't change its single-shot and weight properties. I love both guns, and especially love the sound of the Claymore.

In reality, what the Wraith feels like to me is the spiritual successor to the ME 2 Claymore.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 20 février 2013 - 08:05 .


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Yeah, somehow I doubt Ashen Scrub's claim. He never gets a 20 headshot medal, whereas the PC elitists are capable of getting the 20 headshots medal before the 25 kills / 25 weapon kills medals....

Plus, he plays GI, like the pansy that he is.

And Disciple888 is a much better player than Ashen is.

So is OTS.

:kissing:

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It depends on the class. Sure, on a class that depends on fast cooldowns for power spam, the lighter gun is better. But on my Batarian Soldier, the Claymore goes perfectly with Ballistic Blades.