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[RedJohn]

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

[SavagelyEpic]

Ashen Earth wrote...

dragaaan wrote...

the wraith is pretty good and i do use it on some of my classes but as long as we have reload cancels it won't outscore a claymore
and of corse CLAYMOAAAAR

I've outscored many Claymore apologists with a Wraith.

And I've outscored many a geth Wraith apologist with the grace of Lady Claymoar.

[TJLenz]

What sort of heresy is going on in this thread?


This whole thread is just one big...

Modifié par TJLenz, 23 décembre 2013 - 08:53 .

[Black Phantom]

RedJohn wrote...

The only reason why you love Wraith is because its 2 shots, because they always fail the first one.

nope.avi

75% of the Claymore's damage

50% of the Claymore's weight

[Ledgend1221]

Weight is for girls.
Real men carry big guns.

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

Seeing as how on PC you can RC the Exalted one and fire it pretty much at the exact same rate as the Wraith....

I disagree, infidel.

[SavagelyEpic]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.

OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.

l2aim

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Wraith is for sissly like Geth and Quarian who somehow manage to miss the first shot or unable to kill more than one target with a single shot.

I hope you realize that if you knew how to aim you could kill 2 human sized enemies for every one you kill with the Claymore.  Because if you're not trolling, that's just sad.

l2reloadcancel

[Deerber]

ndw542 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Deerber wrote...

ndw542 wrote...

I predict Gallows will show up and this will turn into another reload canceling thread.

Lol. Bsn is quite predictable, yep!

As I read the title to Ashen's troll thread, I thought.

" I predict the PC elitists will turn up and start bashing the peasants for their insolence."

BSN is quite predictable.

Its not like the two are mutually exclusive.  There've been plenty of combo threads.  BSN can't play out Godwin's Law, since the acronym for the National Socialist German Workers' Party is ironically cencored.  So, instead, as any given thread's length increases, the probability that it will devolve into some combination of: a platform war, RC-flamebaiting, the Great Prothean "Debate,"  Infiltrators' cheapness, or balance change whining approaches 1.  

... From above :innocent:

[Crimson Vanguard]

Can the Wraith ****ing do this?

[SavagelyEpic]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Weight is for girls.
Real men carry big guns.

[SKhalazza]

Anyway Javelin > Claymore
/thread

[Deerber]

RedJohn wrote...

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

Definitely not true on lots of kits.

[dragaaan]

Ashen Earth wrote...

dragaaan wrote...

the wraith is pretty good and i do use it on some of my classes but as long as we have reload cancels it won't outscore a claymore
and of corse CLAYMOAAAAR

I've outscored many Claymore apologists with a Wraith.

that is not what i meant, i meant if the same player is using both guns and is somewhat good at reload canceling then he will never be better with the wraith..

but if you somewhat rely on powers the wraith is a perfect choice

[Black Phantom]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Seeing as how on PC you can RC the Exalted one and fire it pretty much at the exact same rate as the Wraith....

I disagree, infidel.

>Implying it can't be done on consoles too

It's still inferior, scrub.

[RedJohn]

Ashen Earth wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

The only reason why you love Wraith is because its 2 shots, because they always fail the first one.

nope.avi

75% of the Claymore's damage

50% of the Claymore's weight

But why mention the weight?.

with a single shot you don't have anything to worry about, and I'm talking from the point of view of an Asari Adept.

61% cooldown allows me to do anything, 11% allows me to do anything.

You just have to learn how to manage the power usage if you are carrying a big gun , mainly if the big gun is a CLAYMOAR

[megabeast37215]

Original Stikman wrote...

Thanks for saying it. This is just one of the many threads that need to start taking the claymore down a notch. Totally overhyped.

This.

I love both weapons... but overall, the Wraith is a better weapon no questions asked.

The beauty of the Wraith is you still have that OSK power, and you can actually... you know... play the kit by using its powers and weapon, instead of turning it into a Claymore weapons platform with garbage cooldowns/limited power use. Wraith also affords the ability to use a sidearm.

I actually stopped using the Wraith b/c it's too damn good now. It was finding its way onto like half my kits.

Wraith also has greater range/tighter spread.

Claymore has better 'feel'... for sure.

[RedJohn]

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

Definitely not true on lots of kits.

I must check on how much is possible, i've done it with Krogan Sentinel lot of times.

Modifié par RedJohn, 20 février 2013 - 08:01 .

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Seeing as how on PC you can RC the Exalted one and fire it pretty much at the exact same rate as the Wraith....

I disagree, infidel.

>Implying it can't be done on consoles too

It's still inferior, scrub.

You must have missed my other post.

Wraith is better on console
Claymore is better on PC

nuff said:police:

*this can be seen as most xbox players say wraith and most PC players say claymore

Modifié par BACON4BREAKFAST, 20 février 2013 - 08:03 .

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Seeing as how on PC you can RC the Exalted one and fire it pretty much at the exact same rate as the Wraith....

I disagree, infidel.

>Implying it can't be done on consoles too

It's still inferior, scrub.

Just gonna stop ya right there. We can disagree, but I am no scrub. Each weapon has its place, and we exalt the Claymore because non-scrubs like yourself can use it on any kit to devastating effect despite its drawbacks. It is called skill, which you have plenty of. Maybe try to use it sometime.

[RedJohn]

Well, thanks Ashen, BSN today needed this thread.

I know he likes more the claymore, he was just bored like me and he made this thread to have some fun, anyway, now I have to go

See you later guys.



Claymore 4 life yo.

[SavagelyEpic]

I am sorry for your scrubbery, peasants. We shall beseech the Lady Claymoar on behalf of your heretic souls.

[Deerber]

RedJohn wrote...

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

Definitely not true on lots of kits.

I must check on how much is possible, i've done it with Krogan Sentinel lot of times.

I didn't ask you to provide an example of a kit that can do that (can it, by the way?), I merely pointed out that your statement wasn't entirely accurate, at least.

[BridgeBurner]

Why are we still debating this, we all know that Ashen is a scrub, he can't even kill an unshielded atlas in one cast of flamer.

Disciple888 + OTS for Lady and Lord of ecksbawcksdom.

[megabeast37215]

Annomander wrote...

And Disciple888 is a much better player than Ashen is.

So is OTS.

Disciple is a GI crutch user... and OTS... LOL...

Not trying to kiss Ashens ass, but the truth is the truth...

[oXTheReverendXo]

Nerf the Scimitar.