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[Feneckus]

valium wrote...

I can aim fairly well, but the few times a match I miss the shot with the claymore and standing there reloading with the enemy still alive is such a terrible feeling.

Heavy melee.

[Dark Tlaloc]

kipac wrote...

I like both wraith and claymore, but I think claymore is much easier to use.
I don't like that delayed feeling of wraith between shots.

I don't either, but I still prefer it to the Claymore. Were reload cancelling more efficient on the Xbox, maybe I'd change my mind, but as is, I prefer a lightweight, 2-shot shottie.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

My eyes were opened yesterday when I finally realised the Raider is better hip-fired, so I'm switching things up...

Talon > Raider > Wraith = Claymore

[Devoidparanoia]

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

kipac wrote...

I like both wraith and claymore, but I think claymore is much easier to use.
I don't like that delayed feeling of wraith between shots.

I don't either, but I still prefer it to the Claymore. Were reload cancelling more efficient on the Xbox, maybe I'd change my mind, but as is, I prefer a lightweight, 2-shot shottie.

reload canceling is a lot easier on Xbox than people think, since you have such a heavy gun, you can press a power button while its cooling down,sprint,light melee,evade,switch weapons,or cast a power. Much easier than people think, easy as holding forward and pressing A

[Dark Tlaloc]

Devoidparanoia wrote...

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

kipac wrote...

I like both wraith and claymore, but I think claymore is much easier to use.
I don't like that delayed feeling of wraith between shots.

I don't either, but I still prefer it to the Claymore. Were reload cancelling more efficient on the Xbox, maybe I'd change my mind, but as is, I prefer a lightweight, 2-shot shottie.

reload canceling is a lot easier on Xbox than people think, since you have such a heavy gun, you can press a power button while its cooling down,sprint,light melee,evade,switch weapons,or cast a power. Much easier than people think, easy as holding forward and pressing A

I actually am aware of this, but the problem is that sometimes I don't want to move in any direction to reload cancel; generally when I do that though, I roll to the side. I like the Geth for this reason; you want to reload cancel, just hop once to the side, and you're done. I'd still rather have a reload cancel that didn't involve anything moving, though.

[UnknownMercenary]

Deerber wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Michaelxdrift wrote...

screw the wraith. piranha>wraith. DPS sucks on wraith even at 10

if deeps was the only thing that mattered everybody would use the lolreegar

I would still not use the abomination 

Also, 50 pages go go go!!!

I feel less guilty about using it for an easy tick on shotgun mastery than I do about using slash powers ever.

[DieWaffenKatzen]

Oh god, Reegar isn't even a shotgun! It is basically just an amplified electroshocker. Claymore at least sounds like a weapon.

[chcknwng]

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

Devoidparanoia wrote...

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

kipac wrote...

I like both wraith and claymore, but I think claymore is much easier to use.
I don't like that delayed feeling of wraith between shots.

I don't either, but I still prefer it to the Claymore. Were reload cancelling more efficient on the Xbox, maybe I'd change my mind, but as is, I prefer a lightweight, 2-shot shottie.

reload canceling is a lot easier on Xbox than people think, since you have such a heavy gun, you can press a power button while its cooling down,sprint,light melee,evade,switch weapons,or cast a power. Much easier than people think, easy as holding forward and pressing A

I actually am aware of this, but the problem is that sometimes I don't want to move in any direction to reload cancel; generally when I do that though, I roll to the side. I like the Geth for this reason; you want to reload cancel, just hop once to the side, and you're done. I'd still rather have a reload cancel that didn't involve anything moving, though.

Did you read what he said? On consoles you can reload cancel by using powers that is in cool down. You do not need to move by doing this. I almost never use dodge or run to reload cancel unless I need to move in that direction.

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

People continue to love on the Talon in this thread... Either of the titular Shorties destroy the Talon against bosses or singular enemies, and only surpasses, hem in crowd control thanks to clip size. Don't get me wrong: I love the Talon, maybe the best pistol (more contenders for that throne lately); it is not a shotgun even if it shoots like one

[Devoidparanoia]

DieWaffenKatzen wrote...

Oh god, Reegar isn't even a shotgun! It is basically just an amplified electroshocker. Claymore at least sounds like a weapon.

BBBBBBFFFFHHSSSSSFFFFSHZZZZZZZZZZHSSS, "dahell was that?" "Oh the quarian over there has a reegar"

[UnknownMercenary]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

People continue to love on the Talon in this thread... Either of the titular Shorties destroy the Talon against bosses or singular enemies, and only surpasses, hem in crowd control thanks to clip size. Don't get me wrong: I love the Talon, maybe the best pistol (more contenders for that throne lately); it is not a shotgun even if it shoots like one

it's good when I care about weight/don't want to burn shotgun amps

[Happy Shepard]

AIU Katana FTW

Also, why is this thread still alive? Somebody should nerf this topic's Repair Matrix.

Modifié par Happy Shepard, 12 mars 2013 - 03:54 .

[Devoidparanoia]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

People continue to love on the Talon in this thread... Either of the titular Shorties destroy the Talon against bosses or singular enemies, and only surpasses, hem in crowd control thanks to clip size. Don't get me wrong: I love the Talon, maybe the best pistol (more contenders for that throne lately); it is not a shotgun even if it shoots like one

it's good when I care about weight/don't want to burn shotgun amps

talon is better for cacasters
come on guys, page 50?

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

Best caster weapon
Claymore>Executioner>Talon

[ISHYGDDT]

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Best caster weapon
Javelin>Claymore>Executioner>Talon

Fixed

[Devoidparanoia]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Best caster weapon
Spitfire>Javelin>Claymore>Executioner>Talon

Fixed

Super fixed

[RaptorSolutions]

b00g13man wrote...

My eyes were opened yesterday when I finally realised the Raider is better hip-fired, so I'm switching things up...

Talon > Raider > Wraith = Claymore

Pretty much. I noticed you can actually get very small pellet spread from hipfiring the Raider. Smart choke + HM accuracy bonuses = medium range shotgun.

[Devoidparanoia]

RaptorSolutions wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

My eyes were opened yesterday when I finally realised the Raider is better hip-fired, so I'm switching things up...

Talon > Raider > Wraith = Claymore

Pretty much. I noticed you can actually get very small pellet spread from hipfiring the Raider. Smart choke + HM accuracy bonuses = medium range shotgun.

i must test this

[UnknownMercenary]

I never bother "aiming" with the Raider or Piranha.

Still prefer the Claymore though. Ol' reliable.

[RoundedPlanet88]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

I never bother "aiming" with the Raider or Piranha.

Still prefer the Claymore though. Ol' reliable.

did you ever try them on a turian with marksman active?

[UnknownMercenary]

yes

and I still hipfire the Raider and Piranha with Marksman on

in fact I just finished a Plat match with a Piranha/Hurricane TSol

[ISHYGDDT]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

People continue to love on the Talon in this thread... Either of the titular Shorties destroy the Talon against bosses or singular enemies, and only surpasses, hem in crowd control thanks to clip size. Don't get me wrong: I love the Talon, maybe the best pistol (more contenders for that throne lately); it is not a shotgun even if it shoots like one

Can't believe I missed this.  This is simply not true.  

With decent equipment the Talon can one-shot most foot soldiers on Gold (you need to get headshots) additionally, naked it has somewhat lower sustained DPS to the Claymore and Wraith but unlike those two, it gets a 1.5x multiplier to shield and barrier damage (which makes up 1/3-1/2 of Boss health) can equip a more damaging mod (40% vs. 25%) and can increase it's clip size (thus increasing sustained DPS) all of which lead to it actually being better vs. Bosses than either of those two weapons.

There is only one aspect in which the Claymore/Wraith are better than the Talon and that is the fact that they can use a smartchoke while the Talon requires hard cover (or a scope) to get a relatively high level of accuracy.

[UnknownMercenary]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

People continue to love on the Talon in this thread... Either of the titular Shorties destroy the Talon against bosses or singular enemies, and only surpasses, hem in crowd control thanks to clip size. Don't get me wrong: I love the Talon, maybe the best pistol (more contenders for that throne lately); it is not a shotgun even if it shoots like one

Can't believe I missed this.  This is simply not true.  

With decent equipment the Talon can one-shot most foot soldiers on Gold (you need to get headshots) additionally, naked it has somewhat lower sustained DPS to the Claymore and Wraith but unlike those two, it gets a 1.5x multiplier to shield and barrier damage (which makes up 1/3-1/2 of Boss health) can equip a more damaging mod (40% vs. 25%) and can increase it's clip size (thus increasing sustained DPS) all of which lead to it actually being better vs. Bosses than either of those two weapons.

There is only one aspect in which the Claymore/Wraith are better than the Talon and that is the fact that they can use a smartchoke while the Talon requires hard cover (or a scope) to get a relatively high level of accuracy.

Ssh.... let people continue to think the Talon sucks

[USIncorp0]

Devoidparanoia wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

BACON4BREAKFAST wrote...

Best caster weapon
Harrier>Spitfire>Javelin>Claymore>Executioner>Talon

Fixed

Super fixed

Fixed for IRL.

[Commander Castillo]

If I had the wraith at level 5 or above I would use it over the Claymore but sadly mine is still at 1. I've also been missing a bit more for some reason.