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[ISHYGDDT]

SavagelyEpic wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

jrm_ayun wrote...

Seriously though if looking at dps, the claymore has the higher one but that comes with higher weight. Now I wait for Gallows Pole lol.

OMG an extra 7.5% damage per second!  No way the Wraith could possibly keep up with that by having two shots.

l2aim

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Wraith is for sissly like Geth and Quarian who somehow manage to miss the first shot or unable to kill more than one target with a single shot.

I hope you realize that if you knew how to aim you could kill 2 human sized enemies for every one you kill with the Claymore.  Because if you're not trolling, that's just sad.

l2reloadcancel

l2reloadcancel the Wraith.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

A wild Reegar appears!

It uses omgroflstompelectricalflamethrower.

It's super effective!

[Black Phantom]

RedJohn wrote...

But why mention the weight?.

with a single shot you don't have anything to worry about, and I'm talking from the point of view of an Asari Adept.

If I'm going to use a character as a heavy weapon platform, I'm going to play a class that gets a whole bunch of weapon damage bonuses. They tend to be better weapon platforms than your Claymore AA.

And on the subject of the AA, she has Stasis and a Wraith headshot is a one shot kill. If you can't get a Wraith headshot with Stasis then I don't know what to say to you man.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 20 février 2013 - 08:08 .

[Original Twigman]

RedJohn wrote...

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

lol...no

[JediHarbinger]

Ashen is a better player than he is a troller.

[megabeast37215]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Weight is for girls.
Real men carry big guns.

You still have much to learn scrub a dub dub....

[BjornDaDwarf]

Claymore is, at best, the fourth or fifth best Shotgun in the game.  And that probably depends on whether you want to consider the Talon a Shotgun.

Edited, realized I actually forgot about a gun.

Modifié par BjornDaDwarf, 20 février 2013 - 08:10 .

[reioni]

FateNeverEnds wrote...

Still not as good as the Eviscerator

[Beerfish]

RedJohn wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

The only reason why you love Wraith is because its 2 shots, because they always fail the first one.

nope.avi

75% of the Claymore's damage

50% of the Claymore's weight

But why mention the weight?.

with a single shot you don't have anything to worry about, and I'm talking from the point of view of an Asari Adept.

61% cooldown allows me to do anything, 11% allows me to do anything.

You just have to learn how to manage the power usage if you are carrying a big gun , mainly if the big gun is a CLAYMOAR

So every class you play as a shooter soldier no mattter what?  Some of you dudes would be running around with -50% cooldown and say the claymore is a good adept gun because you can kill lots of stuff with it. 

[ManRightChea]

ALSO WE NEED TO STOP THIS ASSUMPTION THAT PEOPLE ON CONSOLE CANNOT RELOAD CANCEL WELL. Reload cancelling on console is perfectly viable and pretty easy overall. Anyone that cannot do it only has themselves to blame

[TJLenz]

Have I told BSN that I love it today?
Because I really do

Modifié par TJLenz, 20 février 2013 - 08:09 .

[megabeast37215]

SavagelyEpic wrote...

I am sorry for your scrubbery, peasants. We shall beseech the Lady Claymoar on behalf of your heretic souls.

The fact that you're calling it Lady Claymoar means it's a feminine weapon... just saying. It's a big fat heavy loud chick....

[Malanek]

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

Definitely not true on lots of kits.

I must check on how much is possible, i've done it with Krogan Sentinel lot of times.

I didn't ask you to provide an example of a kit that can do that (can it, by the way?), I merely pointed out that your statement wasn't entirely accurate, at least.

If a Krogan Sentinel can do it, what kit can't?

[Original Twigman]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Claymore is, at best, the third or fourth best Shotgun in the game.  And that probably depends on whether you want to consider the Talon a Shotgun.

I think i ranked it as 5th, personally. I actually put it under the pirahna... but in reality they are about equal as they both have some strong weaknesses.

So.... I agree... maybe fourth best

[Ledgend1221]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Weight is for girls.
Real men carry big guns.

You still have much to learn scrub a dub dub....

Pfft, what pansy carries light guns?
If you're going to have a shotgun for casters, you're going to do it with a Talon.

[Amusingthree93]

I remember there being old threads months ago about how the OP would ask what is your least favourite ultrarare and almost everyone would say "Wraith".

Things have changed a lot since then...

[ndw542]

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Deerber wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

you know what? I actually think you are right. A wraith can't take a ravager like a claymore does: in 2 shots, and slower with a non-infiltrator/debuffer

Claymore can 1 shot a ravager...

Definitely not true on lots of kits.

I must check on how much is possible, i've done it with Krogan Sentinel lot of times.

I didn't ask you to provide an example of a kit that can do that (can it, by the way?), I merely pointed out that your statement wasn't entirely accurate, at least.

I suspect it's possible on any character with full weapon damage passives, but as has been said above, that takes away from the variety of builds.  I love the Claymore, but I don't want to play every damned character the same.  The Wraith affords a player the flexibility to play essentially the same style as a Claymore wielder without sacrificing anything from its dedicated skillset.  

Maybe some players can have fun playing every kit with the same Claymore --> ability --> Claymore --> ability rhythm ad nauseum, but that gets boring for some of us.  I'd rather retain the flexibility to mash faces from close range and use abilities unhindered within the same match.   

[Deerber]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

A wild Reegar appears!

It uses omgroflstompelectricalflamethrower.

It's super effective!

You did not... Just go there.

Lolreegar 

[megabeast37215]

Beerfish wrote...
So every class you play as a shooter soldier no mattter what?  Some of you dudes would be running around with -50% cooldown and say the claymore is a good adept gun because you can kill lots of stuff with it. 

That's the PC way.

No individuality between classes... they're all just Claymore platforms. Then they get snarky about Geth Infiltrators and Reegars... LOL...

[Black Phantom]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Weight is for girls.
Real men carry big guns.

You still have much to learn scrub a dub dub....

Pfft, what pansy carries light guns?
If you're going to have a shotgun for casters, you're going to do it with a Talon.

I'm going to carry two guns and kill more than the Claymore user with both weapons and my powers while he cowers in the corner because he can't kill Phantoms on host.

[adi21]

This thread has grown fast, yet none of you wish to aknowledge the Raider's superiority.

[Bhatair]

I like them both.
I'll take the wraith if I need the cooldowns, if it's not an issue I'll take the claymore. Simple really.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Deerber wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

A wild Reegar appears!

It uses omgroflstompelectricalflamethrower.

It's super effective!

You did not... Just go there.

Lolreegar