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The M-11 Wraith is better than the Claymore.


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#1726
Swan Killer

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Yeah, see if you can headshot a a Phantom with that from about a 50 meters away! :P



#1727
DeckardWasAReplicant

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Yeah, see if you can headshot a a Phantom with that from about a 50 meters away! :P


While you are aiming for that headshot ive killed 6 enemies with the reegar

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While you are aiming for that headshot ive killed 6 enemies with the reegar

 

If you need that much time to aim for an headshot, then it isn't the High Lord problem, but someone else's :P



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Swan Killer

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While you are aiming for that headshot ive killed 6 enemies with the reegar

 

While you get close enough to kill 6 enemies with the Reegar, I've cleared out the whole map with the Claymoar.


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#1730
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Considering I haven't ever seen OP post, I can only assume he was rightfully eaten for making such a foolish thread


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#1731
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Considering I haven't ever seen OP post, I can only assume he was rightfully eaten for making such a foolish thread

 

Lol. If you haven't seen the OP, then you haven't been here long enough... :pinched:



#1732
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As one who has used both the Claymore and Wraith frequently I like both but for overall usefulness prefer the Wraith

 

now I shall report myself for continuing a necro



#1733
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I also used to think, Wraith > Claymore.

I saw the light.
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#1734
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Claymore all the way, any time. Wraith is got so ducking poor rate of fire that I want to give it a nickel every time I want to shoot. Wraith is so slow, while you fire those 2 shoots I will shoot my Claymore 3 time. Without a reload cancel....    And go to grab some ammo on Condor...       with my Juggy...     without adrenaline module.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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#1735
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I also used to think, Wraith > Claymore.

I saw the light.


All great players see the light, sooner or later ;)
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#1736
lonerenforcer9

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FTL defend your damn gun!!



#1737
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All great players see the light, sooner or later ;)

No.

#1738
FasterThanFTL

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FTL defend your damn gun!!


What's there to defend, Wraith is basically diet Claymore with 80% of damage of the Claymore, 2 shots, faster reload, much faster cool downs, better synergy with powers, better looking, ultra rare, more dps, better accuracy, more ammo, better at applying ammo effects. Overall Wraith is better because it has more things going for it but Claymore still feels great despite having so many negative points is a testament of how good a weapon it is as well.
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#1739
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Wraith is better than claymore. 

 

The one aspect where claymore beats wraith is the sound, but if I want to use a gun for its sound, I'd go with saber.


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#1740
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The one aspect where claymore beats wraith is the sound, but if I want to use a gun for it's sound, I'd go with saber.

 

Or Krysae ;)


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#1741
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Just duel wield those madafakas!

#1742
lonerenforcer9

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*No.

 

 

What's there to defend, Wraith is basically diet Claymore with 80% of damage of the Claymore, 2 shots, faster reload, much faster cool downs, better synergy with powers, better looking, ultra rare, more dps, better accuracy, more ammo, better at applying ammo effects. Overall Wraith is better because it has more things going for it but Claymore still feels great despite having so many negative points is a testament of how good a weapon it is as well.

 

 

Wraith is better than claymore. 

 

The one aspect where claymore beats wraith is the sound, but if I want to use a gun for its sound, I'd go with saber.

 

 

BSN, defend your damn High Lord or face being ONE-SHOTTED...in the face!

 

 

 

 

 

* +5 points for smeckie's one word retort



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They're both terrible sniper rifles since they don't have scopes.



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They're both terrible sniper rifles since they don't have scopes.

 

They're also crap SMG's cause of their ROF.


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Im just curious about the ROF comparison between Claymore and Wraith.

 

I've found this thread that talks about Claymore's ROF. I haven't found anything like that for Wraith.

 

In the back of my mind I have it that Claymore's ROF is bigger than Wraith's if you reload cancel properly, but I haven't any data to back this up. Anyone else got more on this?


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Im just curious about the ROF comparison between Claymore and Wraith.

I've found this thread that talks about Claymore's ROF. I haven't found anything like that for Wraith.

In the back of my mind I have it that Claymore's ROF is bigger than Wraith's if you reload cancel properly, but I haven't any data to back this up. Anyone else got more on this?


Haha hold on, am I really going to direct Alquinn to the resource library? :P

Check for cyonan sheet there.

In short, no, the wraith fires faster than a reload canceled claymore.
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#1747
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But Claymore's rate of fire is listed as 64! ;)

 

The thing with that chart is that the reload cancel times don't include the one ROF period you have to wait to initiate the reload, which means without an ROF bonus the Claymore fires a shot every 1.98s (0.94+1.04), which comes out to ~30 vs the Wraith's 48.



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But Claymore's rate of fire is listed as 64! ;)

 

The thing with that chart is that the reload cancel times don't include the one ROF period you have to wait to initiate the reload, which means without an ROF bonus the Claymore fires a shot every 1.98s (0.94+1.04), which comes out to ~30 vs the Wraith's 48.

 

I thought that didn't need to be specified to Alquinn, sorry :pinched:



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I thought that didn't need to be specified to Alquinn, sorry :pinched:

 

It probably didn't, but I thought it would be funny to mention the ROF number (which is basically just for ammo proc purposes).

 

The rest of it was for anybody who looks at the reload cancel time and can't figure out why the Claymore fires shots less frequently than the 1.04s reload cancel duration would lead you to believe.



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70 freaking pages. Why is this still such a strong debate when the Claymore is clearly the winner?


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