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Announcing the final ME3 Single Player DLC - Citadel!


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Indoctrination wrote...

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I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending.


This is definitely not the case, because it involves Shepard who survives in exactly one ending. Imagine paying $15 for a DLC that you can't use because you didn't take Destroy, LOL. Also, there is no post game area. Once you finish the game, you're automatically booted back to before you assaulted the final Cerberus base.


I suggest you re-read my post and answer to each of my 5 points.  Then bend your mind just a little to see how it could easily all be possible.  If you cant,  you're stuck in a mental rut that is not of my own making but your own.  I'm telling you - at no point could this be before the ending.  

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To help you - argue against my previous post. Then we can have meaningful dialogue.


"I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending.
Consider this:
1) How can you "rekindle" a relationship if it was never lost to begin with unless they thought Shepard died?
2) How can you "re-connect" with old friends unless they thought you had died?
3) How can many of those friends even be on the citadel at any time BEFORE the final battle? Rex was making babies. Jacob was on the Crucible (along with many of the others). Miranda was tracking down her father and only on the citadel briefly. ect. ect.
4) Being able to make your own pad on the citadel sounds a lot like settling down to me.
5) A new threat? Unless it was for adding to the alliance fleet, Shepard didnt even have time for a new threat to deal with.

This takes place at the end and its a final farewell from Bioware. They may have had this planned all along. If my speculation all turns out to be true - well played Bioware, you will have redeemed yourself in my eyes. "

Modifié par DetcelferVisionary, 21 février 2013 - 06:43 .


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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

To help you - argue against my previous post. Then we can have meaningful dialogue.


"I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending. 
Consider this:
1) How can you "rekindle" a relationship if it was never lost to begin with unless they thought Shepard died?
2) How can you "re-connect" with old friends unless they thought you had died?
3) How can many of those friends could even be on the citadel at any time BEFORE the final battle? Rex was making babies. Jacob was on the Crucible (along with many of the others). Miranda was tracking down her father and only on the citadel briefly. ect. ect. 
4) Being able to make your own pad on the citadel sounds a lot like settling down to me.
5) A new threat? Unless it was for adding to the alliance fleet, Shepard didnt even have time for a new threat to deal with.

This takes place at the end and its a final farewell from Bioware. They may have had this planned all along. If my speculation all turns out to be true - well played Bioware, you will have redeemed yourself in my eyes. "



I wouldn't doubt this at all really.

Modifié par Bob Garbage, 21 février 2013 - 06:43 .


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try your luck at the Citadel’s Silver Coast Casino, blow off steam in the Armax Combat Arena, or explore and furnish Shepard’s own living quarters on the Citadel. With unique content and cinematics featuring your friends and romance interests in the Mass Effect trilogy

so...SIMS ME-edition?... yeah, so good to take time and furnish shep's quarters right before assaulting Cerberus base...have you guys already matched wallpapers with a blanket on a king-size bed? how about a mirror in the bathroom?...

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"Armax Combat Arena?"

If that is what I think it is, I will be one happy gamer...

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

I suggest you re-read my post and answer to each of my 5 points.  Then bend your mind just a little to see how it could easily all be possible.  If you cant,  you're stuck in a mental rut that is not of my own making but your own.  I'm telling you - at no point could this be before the ending.  


I'm not going to bother because you're ignoring the realities of the game by desperately playing semantics games. Like your entire assumption rests on there being some kind of hidden implication behind the word "rekindle," which is ridiculous. If you use context, it's obviously being used in an out of game sense that is directed to us, the human players. WE can revisit these characters.

Like I said, there is no post-game area and Shepard survives in only one ending. BioWare is not going to make a DLC which most saves can't even use.

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They'd better match the hamster, cause he's moving in!

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Are there any larger versions of the screenshots?

Edit: NVM found them.

Modifié par Bendigoe, 21 février 2013 - 06:50 .


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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

To help you - argue against my previous post. Then we can have meaningful dialogue.


"I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending.
Consider this:
1) How can you "rekindle" a relationship if it was never lost to begin with unless they thought Shepard died?
2) How can you "re-connect" with old friends unless they thought you had died?
3) How can many of those friends even be on the citadel at any time BEFORE the final battle? Rex was making babies. Jacob was on the Crucible (along with many of the others). Miranda was tracking down her father and only on the citadel briefly. ect. ect.
4) Being able to make your own pad on the citadel sounds a lot like settling down to me.
5) A new threat? Unless it was for adding to the alliance fleet, Shepard didnt even have time for a new threat to deal with.

This takes place at the end and its a final farewell from Bioware. They may have had this planned all along. If my speculation all turns out to be true - well played Bioware, you will have redeemed yourself in my eyes. "


I hope you're right, but I will keep my thoughts open until the DLC is actually released. :)

Modifié par ScrltFx, 21 février 2013 - 06:49 .


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Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

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****... No Indoctrination DLC... Damnit bioware.... damnit... What is the reason for a reunion of Shepard is dead?


Exactly. What is the point of a DLC supposedly filled with fan feedback, reunion with all the characters, emotions, blah blah and so on, if we know it's going to meet a horrible, depressing end?


I hear ya, but while I will probably never buy Lev and Omega, $15 for 4 gigs of content, including stuff with our LIs? Sure, why the hell not. That's half a DVD's worth. 

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ScrltFx wrote...

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

To help you - argue against my previous post. Then we can have meaningful dialogue.


"I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending.
Consider this:
1) How can you "rekindle" a relationship if it was never lost to begin with unless they thought Shepard died?
2) How can you "re-connect" with old friends unless they thought you had died?
3) How can many of those friends even be on the citadel at any time BEFORE the final battle? Rex was making babies. Jacob was on the Crucible (along with many of the others). Miranda was tracking down her father and only on the citadel briefly. ect. ect.
4) Being able to make your own pad on the citadel sounds a lot like settling down to me.
5) A new threat? Unless it was for adding to the alliance fleet, Shepard didnt even have time for a new threat to deal with.

This takes place at the end and its a final farewell from Bioware. They may have had this planned all along. If my speculation all turns out to be true - well played Bioware, you will have redeemed yourself in my eyes. "


I hope you're right, but I will keep my thoughts open until the DLC is actually released. :)


I know I'm right.  Because if I'm not this will be a huge continuity blunder on Biowares part.  I give them far too much credit to overlook what was happening through out the ME3 storyline to make such a mistake.  

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Aryck1095 V2 wrote...

"Armax Combat Arena?"

If that is what I think it is, I will be one happy gamer...


What are you thinking this is?

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...
I know I'm right.  Because if I'm not this will be a huge continuity blunder on Biowares part.  I give them far too much credit to overlook what was happening through out the ME3 storyline to make such a mistake.  

I hope you're right I really do, but I don't think it will be the case.

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

To help you - argue against my previous post. Then we can have meaningful dialogue.


"I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending.
Consider this:
1) How can you "rekindle" a relationship if it was never lost to begin with unless they thought Shepard died?
2) How can you "re-connect" with old friends unless they thought you had died?
3) How can many of those friends even be on the citadel at any time BEFORE the final battle? Rex was making babies. Jacob was on the Crucible (along with many of the others). Miranda was tracking down her father and only on the citadel briefly. ect. ect.
4) Being able to make your own pad on the citadel sounds a lot like settling down to me.
5) A new threat? Unless it was for adding to the alliance fleet, Shepard didnt even have time for a new threat to deal with.

This takes place at the end and its a final farewell from Bioware. They may have had this planned all along. If my speculation all turns out to be true - well played Bioware, you will have redeemed yourself in my eyes. "


It has already been stated that this DLC take place after the Citadel Coup attempt and before Priority Earth: London.

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

VanguardGR13 wrote...

****... No Indoctrination DLC... Damnit bioware.... damnit... What is the reason for a reunion of Shepard is dead?


Exactly. What is the point of a DLC supposedly filled with fan feedback, reunion with all the characters, emotions, blah blah and so on, if we know it's going to meet a horrible, depressing end?


I hear ya, but while I will probably never buy Lev and Omega, $15 for 4 gigs of content, including stuff with our LIs? Sure, why the hell not. That's half a DVD's worth. 


He is not talking about value/$. He is correctly claiming that it is pointless to have a "happy launch time" if the ending is still crappy. 

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

VanguardGR13 wrote...

****... No Indoctrination DLC... Damnit bioware.... damnit... What is the reason for a reunion of Shepard is dead?


Exactly. What is the point of a DLC supposedly filled with fan feedback, reunion with all the characters, emotions, blah blah and so on, if we know it's going to meet a horrible, depressing end?


I hear ya, but while I will probably never buy Lev and Omega, $15 for 4 gigs of content, including stuff with our LIs? Sure, why the hell not. That's half a DVD's worth. 


I will admit, it does sound interesting, plus Zaeed's in it, so maybe, who knows? Maybe I'l buy, depends on any new info we get on it.

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Here's hoping that Wrex and Miranda will be squadmates full-time or part-time.

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VanguardGR13 wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

VanguardGR13 wrote...

****... No Indoctrination DLC... Damnit bioware.... damnit... What is the reason for a reunion of Shepard is dead?


Exactly. What is the point of a DLC supposedly filled with fan feedback, reunion with all the characters, emotions, blah blah and so on, if we know it's going to meet a horrible, depressing end?


I hear ya, but while I will probably never buy Lev and Omega, $15 for 4 gigs of content, including stuff with our LIs? Sure, why the hell not. That's half a DVD's worth. 


He is not talking about value/$. He is correctly claiming that it is pointless to have a "happy launch time" if the ending is still crappy. 


Ah, it is good to occasionally find someone on here with common sense.

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

To help you - argue against my previous post. Then we can have meaningful dialogue.


"I'm fairly certain this comes out AFTER the ending.
Consider this:
1) How can you "rekindle" a relationship if it was never lost to begin with unless they thought Shepard died?
2) How can you "re-connect" with old friends unless they thought you had died?
3) How can many of those friends even be on the citadel at any time BEFORE the final battle? Rex was making babies. Jacob was on the Crucible (along with many of the others). Miranda was tracking down her father and only on the citadel briefly. ect. ect.
4) Being able to make your own pad on the citadel sounds a lot like settling down to me.
5) A new threat? Unless it was for adding to the alliance fleet, Shepard didnt even have time for a new threat to deal with.

This takes place at the end and its a final farewell from Bioware. They may have had this planned all along. If my speculation all turns out to be true - well played Bioware, you will have redeemed yourself in my eyes. "


While that would be really cool, I rather doubt it.

1) They could be talking about Samara-mancers or it could have romance paths that take place before the Citadel Coup, or any number of the romance rekindle times because Bioware can be very on top of all the possibilities created by player choices when they want to be. (Hanging up on the Council convos anyone?)

2) Re-connecting could be with Wrex after the whole Tuchanka incident, I certainly didn't feel like we had a lot of time to sit down and chill with him beyond the war effort.

3) I feel like if you really needed their help, your friends would come if you asked them to, and considering the whole conspiracy is against Shepard, this seems like one of those situations.

4) It does, but you also got the same thing with the Pinnacle DLC without settling down.

5) Seeing as the threat is a personal one against Shepard, I feel that it is reasonable enough for her/him to worry about it.

Again, I would love to see it happen, but it's probably not. If only because they'd have to take into account Shepard disintegrating to 2 of 3 endings, and have different models for any synthesis endings if they manage to handwave that like they did for Awakening. 

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This looks nice... but very sad about the lack of a Harbinger DLC. Thought for sure we'd get one when they added Collectors in MP. Harbinger was so underrepresented in SP. :(

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ScrltFx wrote...

I hope you're right, but I will keep my thoughts open until the DLC is actually released. :)


I'll give you an example.    When,  at any time,  did Rex have the leisure to stop making babies for the sake of Clan Urdnot?   He had an obligation to help Shepard at the very end as agreed after stoping the genophage.   So he goes back,  makes his babies and THEN...   what,  comes to the citadel to take off his battle armor  (look at downloads/citadel picture) to kick back with Shepard?   I'm not buying it.   

This only makes sense in Rex's case and many of the other friends if it happens AFTER THE END.

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Bob Garbage wrote...

They'd better match the hamster, cause he's moving in!


Oh you'd better believe that hamster's moving in if I can bring it! :D

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

ScrltFx wrote...

I hope you're right, but I will keep my thoughts open until the DLC is actually released. :)


I'll give you an example.    When,  at any time,  did Rex have the leisure to stop making babies for the sake of Clan Urdnot?   He had an obligation to help Shepard at the very end as agreed after stoping the genophage.   So he goes back,  makes his babies and THEN...   what,  comes to the citadel to take off his battle armor  (look at downloads/citadel picture) to kick back with Shepard?   I'm not buying it.   

This only makes sense in Rex's case and many of the other friends if it happens AFTER THE END.


BioWare stopped caring about coherent stories last year, it's all about the $$$ now. I wouldn't get your hopes up, even though it would be good to get Post-Ending DLC.

Modifié par Official DJ Harbinger, 21 février 2013 - 06:59 .


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Wow, sounds like Citadel will be my first bought DLC for ME3. Otherwise I would've bought all DLC but... I got pretty scarred after the ending, heh.

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...

ScrltFx wrote...

I hope you're right, but I will keep my thoughts open until the DLC is actually released. :)


I'll give you an example.    When,  at any time,  did Rex have the leisure to stop making babies for the sake of Clan Urdnot?   He had an obligation to help Shepard at the very end as agreed after stoping the genophage.   So he goes back,  makes his babies and THEN...   what,  comes to the citadel to take off his battle armor  (look at downloads/citadel picture) to kick back with Shepard?   I'm not buying it.   

This only makes sense in Rex's case and many of the other friends if it happens AFTER THE END.


And yet again you IGNORE the fact that it doesn't make sense to make a DLC that works only for ONE ENDING.