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Juliette_Tabris

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What are various examples of Circle research that a mage would allow the mage to leave with an escort? I've already thought of herbology, alchemy, and perhaps shapeshifting research but I'd like to hear others' thoughts. :)

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I'm pretty sure shapeshifting's illegal, actually.

As for stuff that would be allowed, you'd probably be allowed to leave with an escort if you wanted to acquire rare materials or a rare text from another Circle. And since just about any research could require those when it gets arcane enough, the answer to your question is probably "anything really advanced."

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In general, the Circle allows herbology, alchemy, practicing and study of the sanctioned schools of Magic, research into creatures that pertain to the arcane (only reason I can think of why a Mage had some dragonlings in the Circle that we fight in DAO), and other stuff.

Mostly, it's just magic that they research.

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

I'm pretty sure shapeshifting's illegal, actually.


It is.

As for stuff that would be allowed, you'd probably be allowed to leave with an escort if you wanted to acquire rare materials or a rare text from another Circle.


This is stuff that would actually require the Mage to have a good reputation in the Circle and have permission from the KC and FE.

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Linguistics! Or, probably more accurately, lost ancient elvhen artifacts. Unless you count a Grey Warden as an 'escort' (which you probably shouldn't, seeing as Finn apparently never returns to Kinloch Hold).

De-golemization (Wynne's trip to Tevinter with Shale, per the epilogue anyway. Not sure how it goes in Asunder.)

Training apprentices to kill darkspawn. (There's a road encounter in Origins that has one senior and several junior allied mages facing down a bunch of darkspawn with no templar in sight. As lore goes, it's only a random encounter and probably shouldn't carry too much weight.)

There's Mage Wilhelm, but I think that's less "allowed out to do his own research" and more "war hero, personal friend of King Maric and has a freaking pet golem" that let him break all the rules he did.

Is spying on the Warden-Commander research? Although I'm not sure if Ambassador Cera is a mage or a Tranquil, honestly.

In some DAO epilogues, Circle Mage Connor Guerrin is allowed to undertake a formal study of the Fade in Tevinter. Whether or not he has an escort isn't mentioned.

I'd have to comb codices for mage authors writing about field work for anything else.

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mousestalker

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I think some of it has to do with the who and the when. In other words research is allowed on a case by case basis.

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mousestalker wrote...

I think some of it has to do with the who and the when. In other words research is allowed on a case by case basis.


I agree with this. I reckon the mage has to prove him/herself to be trustworthy enough to be let out of the Tower for research or other purposes. Can you imagine Anders being permitted to go anywhere after all his escape attempts? You can't screw the system and then expect it to do you favours.

But provided the mage is acceptable, what research would be allowed might depend. I don't know if an elven mage, particularly one captured from the Dalish, might ever be permitted to study things related to their heritage.

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Corker wrote...

Training apprentices to kill darkspawn. (There's a road encounter in Origins that has one senior and several junior allied mages facing down a bunch of darkspawn with no templar in sight. As lore goes, it's only a random encounter and probably shouldn't carry too much weight.)


The Senior mage mentions that they are heading to Redcliffe, which (I'd presume) means they are simply fulfilling the terms of the treaty the Circle has with the Grey Wardens.

Corker wrote...

There's Mage Wilhelm, but I think that's less "allowed out to do his own research" and more "war hero, personal friend of King Maric and has a freaking pet golem" that let him break all the rules he did.


Windhelm was also allowed to live outside the Circle with his wife, and raise his own children (which is illegal for a Circle mage), so he likely had a royal boon that allowed him his freedom from the Circle (since, as you pointed out, he was a war hero for Moira and Maric during the Orlesian occupation).

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Is spying on the Warden-Commander research? Although I'm not sure if Ambassador Cera is a mage or a Tranquil, honestly.


I never got the impression that Ambassador Cera was a spy. If anyone wanted to spy on my Warden-Commander from the Circle turned Arl of Amaranthine, I'd presume it would be the templars or the Chantry.

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Oh, not a spy in the bardic sense or anything. But she's a member of an external organization embedded in a different one, and I'm sure the Circle/the templars would appreciate whatever information she could glean from that. To target special shiny magic items to sell to the Wardens if nothing else.

Mostly, I wasn't sure if OP was interested in "things mages research" or "reasons a mage might be out of the Tower alone" or the strict intersection between the two, so I was stretching to find a reason to mention Cera to cover all those bases.