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[horacethegrey]

Aside from the announcement of the game in December and some sporadic updates, there hasn't been much promotional media regarding DA3.

Meanwhile, here's CDProjekt, who's been releasing a bunch of candid interviews about The Witcher 3 through Game Informer. So far they've released screenshots, revealed a number of game features and teased on the story. All in all, they've managed to satisfy the curiosity of Witcher fans like myself.

But wait a minute, I'm a Dragon Age fan as well. So where are the news? Where are the screenshots? Where be the interviews? Come on Bioware, you want us to buy your game, keeo us informed.

[Daralii]

Oh boy, another Bioware v CDProjekt thread, this will go places.

[Wulfram]

I guess they decided that ramping up the hype early on previous games hadn't done them much good.

And maybe they think that they need to make a particularly positive first impression, since DA2 wasn't recieved so well.

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 février 2013 - 11:35 .

[MichaelStuart]

It is possible that they don't have worth showing.
Which after all this time is likely not a good sign.

But I'm speculating.

[horacethegrey]

Daralii wrote...

Oh boy, another Bioware v CDProjekt thread, this will go places.

That was not my intention I assure you.

But be that as it may, CDProjekt has gotten the ball rolling with their promotion of The Witcher 3. But Bioware has been strangely silent. I figured they ought to dole out the news soon since their main competition is now being active.

[ElitePinecone]

The devs have said they want to show actual gameplay and assets, rather than relying on developer interviews to reveal information about the game.

After the perception that both DA2 and ME3 promised things before launch then didn't deliver, or perhaps generated false expectations with vague or hype-filled developer interviews, I can see why they want to adjust the marketing strategy for DA3.

What's also possible is that Bioware can't (or don't want to) speak about DA3's presence on next-gen consoles, since they've only recently been announced or haven't been announced at all yet, and we'll all need to wait until the platforms officially exist before they can talk about which games are on them.

[Althix]

don't you have something better to do?

find a job, a boy or girl or even both. we will know when we know.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

horacethegrey wrote...

I figured they ought to dole out the news soon since their main competition is now being active.

Wouldnt call it much of a competition, more like a Demi god whipping a blind kid, I mean CDProject Red put all of Bioware's recent games to shame with just their second game, imagine what they have in store with their third. 

[AlexJK]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

Wouldnt call it much of a competition, more like a Demi god whipping a blind kid, I mean CDProject Red put all of Bioware's recent games to shame with just their second game, imagine what they have in store with their third. 

Oh, give up already. Go and talk about TW somewhere else if it's that awesome.

Modifié par AlexJK, 21 février 2013 - 11:57 .

[Paul E Dangerously]

Can we just make a Witcher sub-board or something, because seriously. Or better yet, direct everyone to the thread that exists in the off topic board.

[Face of Evil]

I'm surprised that they're even bothering to make Dragon Age 3, since we will apparently reach the crowning pinnacle of human achievement with the release of The Witcher 3.

Since life has become unending, interminable drudgery broken up only by the release of each Witcher title, perhaps we should be talking about mass suicide pacts instead? Personally, I don't see any further point in living.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 21 février 2013 - 12:07 .

[ManiacG]

Face of Evil wrote...

I'm surprised that they're even bothering to make Dragon Age 3, since we will apparently reach the crowning pinnacle of human achievement with the release of The Witcher 3.

Since life has become unending, interminable drudgery broken up only by the release of each Witcher title, perhaps we should be talking about mass suicide pacts instead? Personally, I don't see any further point in living.

well theres always Cyberpunk...and knowing them its gonna be epic ;p

[obZen DF]

Silence before the inevitable storm my brothers and sisters. Patience. Zen.

[Navasha]

The answer is simple. Technically, the game hasn't been "officially" announced. Other than letting people know that DA3 is in development, the actual marketing campaign hasn't started yet.

It is like knowing that The Hobbit movie was being filmed, but it was still years away from when you start to see trailers for its release.

They said they will make the "official" announcement about the game some time in the Spring. Then you can expect the full set of interviews, periodic tidbit releases, etc.

[Sxplicit]

Face of Evil wrote...

I'm surprised that they're even bothering to make Dragon Age 3, since we will apparently reach the crowning pinnacle of human achievement with the release of The Witcher 3.

Since life has become unending, interminable drudgery broken up only by the release of each Witcher title, perhaps we should be talking about mass suicide pacts instead? Personally, I don't see any further point in living.

Hahaha no i like TW 1 but didnt even bother with TW 2 it looks soo boring and wont bother with any boring TW 3 either...
Ive had it with playing an ugly old guy who runs after young girls and also  whos  old ass i must watch the entire game.

Modifié par Sxplicit, 21 février 2013 - 01:23 .

[t1striker]

sxplicit sorry but thats the dumbest thing I've ever read.

On topic i believe bioware didn't show much of the first dragon age till it was close to release also so maybe a good sign. Or there just wanting to make a real good first impression.

[Fast Jimmy]

t1striker wrote...

On topic i believe bioware didn't show much of the first dragon age till it was close to release also so maybe a good sign. Or there just wanting to make a real good first impression.

Dragon Age: Origins was first announced and shown teasers in 2004. It did not come out until 2009. They had more information out five years before their game was released than DA3 does nine months before its release.

If DA3 really does have a release date of Holiday 2013, that means the game will likely go Gold (meaning all work except DLC will be complete) roughly three months before that.

That means the game has to be DONE by August/September. Yet Bioware feels they don't have anything to show us yet? Five/six months before the game has to be done in a 2 1/2, 3 year dev cycle?

That's... a little scary.

EDIT:

Also, seeing Tweets from developers who are saying they are just now making their first bits of content is cool... until you think that they have to have ALL content done in 5/6/7 months from now. Is that enough time? I'd be curious to know how much of DA2's dev cycle was spent on developing content. 

Not to say all content is just now being developed for DA3... but at the same time, I would have expected everyone who was going to be making actual content (not engine or system work, but actual in-game content) to already be in full swing...? But that may be my ignorance talking.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 21 février 2013 - 02:30 .

[drake heath]

They probably weren't going to announce it that early but had to for some reason I forgot, so they wont show any content until later this year, maybe at E3 or something.

[mousestalker]

@FastJimmy, I think DAO is why they aren't saying much. With DAO they blew deadline after deadline. Since games do not make projected release dates on a regular basis, it makes a great deal of sense not to say anything until you are reasonably sure when the game will be released to release details.

With DAO they had a great game that was released long past the inital projections. With DA2 they had a decent game that released on time. I'm hoping with DAI they are taking the time on the game and not crunching to release per some overly optimistic schedule.,

[Iakus]

drake heath wrote...

They probably weren't going to announce it that early but had to for some reason I forgot, so they wont show any content until later this year, maybe at E3 or something.

The retirement of the Doctors moved up the announccement of DA3, I believe.

Also, the backlash against DA2 and ME3 liekly has them playing this more low-key.  They're not going to show anything until they can back up thier claims with actual content.No exageration, no misinterpretation.  If they say something's in the game, they want to be able to back it up with examples.

We're probably not going to get any concrete information until spring.  Maybe in time for the Workld of Thedas book, if I had to guess.

[Fast Jimmy]

mousestalker wrote...

@FastJimmy, I think DAO is why they aren't saying much. With DAO they blew deadline after deadline. Since games do not make projected release dates on a regular basis, it makes a great deal of sense not to say anything until you are reasonably sure when the game will be released to release details.

With DAO they had a great game that was released long past the inital projections. With DA2 they had a decent game that released on time. I'm hoping with DAI they are taking the time on the game and not crunching to release per some overly optimistic schedule.,

I understand the desire to keep quiet, especially with people filing complaints with the Better Business Bureau here in the States saying that developers lied or misled players with descriptions and promises pre-release of ME3. So I'm sure Bioware is tip-toeing through the tulips about what information is released.

When Bioware first announced DA:I and said they would have more information in the Spring, I didn't have a problem. It was only when they later stated a Fall/Holiday 2013 release that I really began to scratch my head. 

Again, I know why it is happening and I know why they want to keep quiet... its just a little disconcerting at this point. I feel like it is going to be the DA2 demo all over again - released to a lot of vocal complaints, with people assuming that their fears were going to not be present in the finished product, but finding that the final product was EXACTLY like what they had feared. Likely because by the time people actually got to see the game, it was far too late in the game to give any sort of meaningful feedback.

I would have thought that, if anything, Bioware would want more feedback not just of past games, but the game in actual development while they still have time to course-correct.

[ElitePinecone]

Fast Jimmy wrote...
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I'd imagine fans being concerned is quite unnecessary, especially when we know literally almost nothing about how they make games, how they're making DA3 in this specific case, their plans for DA3's reveal or how far along the game is in development.

Mike just tweeted yesterday that the game is shaping up nicely. At this point with next to nothing actually revealed, I have no idea what there is to panic about - an absence of information doesn't indicate an absence of progress. 

At the very least maybe wait until the game is closer to release before worrying that it's substandard, incomplete or otherwise compromised

(After all, Mike and Mark did say they want consumers to have accurate information about DA3, this time, before buying it, so that nobody can accuse them of being deceptive to increase sales.)

[Fast Jimmy]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...
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I'd imagine fans being concerned is quite unnecessary, especially when we know literally almost nothing about how they make games, how they're making DA3 in this specific case, their plans for DA3's reveal or how far along the game is in development.

Mike just tweeted yesterday that the game is shaping up nicely. At this point with next to nothing actually revealed, I have no idea what there is to panic about - an absence of information doesn't indicate an absence of progress. 

At the very least maybe wait until the game is closer to release before worrying that it's substandard, incomplete or otherwise compromised

(After all, Mike and Mark did say they want consumers to have accurate information about DA3, this time, before buying it, so that nobody can accuse them of being deceptive to increase sales.)

LOL No offense, but I don't buy into the "don't worry about things until its too late to fix them" mentality. 

Not to say I'm overtly WORRIED about DA3. I just find it a little disconcerting that they feel the game isn't ready to show to anyone yet. 

Think about it this way... how long does it take them to make a DLC that is only a few hours worth of content, with almost all of the same, exact mechancis and systems intact? A few months, it would seem if the trends of the past few years can be taken for their worth. Granted, that's not the full team working on it at that point, but still... creating content isn't an insubstantial effort. 

Am I saying "sound the fire alarms! DA3 is going to tank!"? Of course not. I just really hope that changing engines and having to rebuild all of the tools from the ground up with Frostbite 2 didn't take up a huge chunk of the devs time and are now actually creating actual in-game content in a window as small as DA2 had.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 21 février 2013 - 02:59 .

[Sith Grey Warden]

Didn't they say that the announcement of DA3's existence was because some important people had left Bioware, and they needed to reassure everyone they were still continuing? I seem to remember Laidlaw making a post about that. Anyway, I find the lack of information encouraging. It shows a shift in their strategy from the super-special-awesome-mega-hype campaign of DA2 and ME3, and I hope it means they'll let the game speak more for itself.

[ElitePinecone]

The decision to delay revealing DA3 could be entirely unrelated to the development of the game, though. Nobody's ever suggested, as far as I know, that the game isn't ready to show off publicly.

It strikes me as much a marketing and publishing question as a development one, if not far more so. If EA thinks they'll get more bang for their buck by announcing at PAX or E3 rather than via a blog post or trailer posted online, then they'll do that. If they've had to keep quiet about new consoles because Sony and Microsoft haven't announced them yet, then of course we'd get nothing until the platforms were revealed. If there's some exclusivity deal with one of the console publishers that requires showing off DA3 only when the new console is revealed, then they'll wait for that announcement to reveal it.

Like a dev (Blair?) said, they only get one chance for a big first impression.