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[ShinAnubisXIII]

Amazing... Bioware must be hell-bent on reaching the Earth's core. After the nosedive, that ME3 is imo, they just keep drilling. Leviathan, Omega and now Citadel. Seems legit that Shepard wants to chill in a casino in the middle of a war while the Reapers slowly taking over the galaxy. Or has another Pinnacle Station'esque experience. It's not that (s)he could point his/her gun at one of the millions of Reaper troops sitting at our doorstep. Well, at least I can keep ME1 and 2 in good memory...

[archangel1996]

alsonamedbort wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

https://twitter.com/...673435458617346

That whole conversation upsets me.

Regardless of opening up the whole "majority/minority" can of worms, I don't really get why "listening to fan feedback" has to translate to "implement all fan feedback."  Sure there's a lot of people out there requesting new endings but there are countless threads and complaints about wanting more time with ME2 squad and romance options.  This is certainly a nod to fans.

I agree, implementing all feedback is unrealistic. And yes, incorporating some feedback is better than none. I guess to me, I would have a list of priorities. Personally (I know I don't speak for everyone), I rank ending and or post-ending content as higher than spending more time with ME2 squad members.

And that's totally fine.  Everyone has their own priorities as to what they like/dislike in a game.  I just don't see a reason to go tweeting at BioWare's people with glib, snarky comments like "oh I thought you listened to feedback, but nevermind."

because they listened to the ones they like, i will not go there saying things to them, i understand why there is people who does

[O Dubhghaill]

Semantics, perhaps, but as someone with a legal background let me say this; it does not have to be post-ending DLC to have an affect post-ending. Saying it 'is not post ending DLC' just means the DLC will not all take place post ending, or begin post-ending. Ambiguous, yes, but not definitive either way. If I were to guess, I'd say there is an element of this DLC which occurs post-ending. The 'goodbye' scenes in London would need changing were this not to be the case, given that all 'previous squad members' are involved in this expansion, and all are said goodbye to here - Then we have the deaths of Thane and Mordin, which occur, obviously, pre-ending. Are either of those in the shots we have seen? For someone like me, who has kept everyone alive (bar those two and the Virmire 'loser'), cured the genophage, and sued for Geth/Quarian peace, do we not deserve the big fat reward of having all our buddies over for a beer? Would Shepard really be sitting there in his ciatdel apartment smiling so soon after the death of Thane?

[Kel Riever]

Actually, I shouldn't get so worked up about Merizan or Gamle posted nonsense. I think Priestly posts stuff that is ridiculous, but you know what the difference is? Chris Priestly does his job as a moderator. And he does a pretty good one.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 21 février 2013 - 07:43 .

[alsonamedbort]

Kel Riever wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

Why does BioWare just have to be willfully stupid about certain things?

I mean, it is one thing to be stubborn. Even to be such an ass that you refuse to do things even when people who buy your stuff ask for it in droves. Or to pick out only the parts you want to do. But you read these BioWare tweets and wonder, "Really? You have a job? Doing what, pushing paper and tweeting stuff you were told to? Oh, right, yes, sure those are original thoughts you have there...."

Yes, it shows up in the endings and the stories. And that's why you look at this self-promoting DLC and laugh. Sure, does it add some things people were asking for? Yes, you know, squaddies. But it so gloriously misses all the important things that are wrong about Mass Effect. Show some stunning self face punching on BioWare's part.

And people wonder why come back here and post if it is so disliked. Because at this point it is hilarious! It is so worth making fun of. It literally brings me daily happiness to come here and watch the flopping and flailing and fanhurt that really, for me, has come to represent what the new BioWare is all about. Was that an EA decision? To move from quality rpg products to emo, misunderstood game designers who do bad work? I'm sure we can speculate.

Oh he mad.

  No you goof.  He laughin.  Speshially at the fool blind!

If you say so.

[clarkusdarkus]

Sales for omega and leviathan were crap for an AAA, add this dlc to the list....not a smart move by merizan as instantly you lose sales by saying what she did, at least get maximum sales first then have your arrogance.

[alsonamedbort]

archangel1996 wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

https://twitter.com/...673435458617346

That whole conversation upsets me.

Regardless of opening up the whole "majority/minority" can of worms, I don't really get why "listening to fan feedback" has to translate to "implement all fan feedback."  Sure there's a lot of people out there requesting new endings but there are countless threads and complaints about wanting more time with ME2 squad and romance options.  This is certainly a nod to fans.

I agree, implementing all feedback is unrealistic. And yes, incorporating some feedback is better than none. I guess to me, I would have a list of priorities. Personally (I know I don't speak for everyone), I rank ending and or post-ending content as higher than spending more time with ME2 squad members.

And that's totally fine.  Everyone has their own priorities as to what they like/dislike in a game.  I just don't see a reason to go tweeting at BioWare's people with glib, snarky comments like "oh I thought you listened to feedback, but nevermind."

because they listened to the ones they like, i will not go there saying things to them, i understand why there is people who does

And your evidence of that is what, exactly?

[Mogsam_]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

Codename_Code wrote...

Merizan is lying ( about no post-ending). Come on guys, there is DECORATION involved in the middle of a war. Obviously there is something pre-ending and then decorations for everybody post ending, unlees this is some nonsense "harbinger not shooting" style, Shepard, why kill when you can bet and drink, you are going to die anyways. I hope pre-ending involves shepard discovering the true nature of space bieber before he shows up.

You also collected models and fish ("decorations") during the war and while preparing for Collectors, or did you forget?.

I never bothered with the models or fish since there was never many reasons to bother going to your cabin anyway. 

If it changes nothing then there's no point in it. 

[MegaSovereign]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

https://twitter.com/...673435458617346

That whole conversation upsets me. 

At least Clevernoob is asking for numbers.

Haven't seen one of BioWare's staff pull the "majority" card quite like that before.

Well they have the numbers. Romance DLC was not something I was expecting but after putting some thought into it I can see how there would be more demand for that. If the goal was to please as many people as possible then that would be the safest bet since any extra romance content is considered good romance content in the eyes of the fans, whereas post-ending DLC could still be received negatively by the community if it doesn't meet people's expectations.

[Kel Riever]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

Why does BioWare just have to be willfully stupid about certain things?

I mean, it is one thing to be stubborn. Even to be such an ass that you refuse to do things even when people who buy your stuff ask for it in droves. Or to pick out only the parts you want to do. But you read these BioWare tweets and wonder, "Really? You have a job? Doing what, pushing paper and tweeting stuff you were told to? Oh, right, yes, sure those are original thoughts you have there...."

Yes, it shows up in the endings and the stories. And that's why you look at this self-promoting DLC and laugh. Sure, does it add some things people were asking for? Yes, you know, squaddies. But it so gloriously misses all the important things that are wrong about Mass Effect. Show some stunning self face punching on BioWare's part.

And people wonder why come back here and post if it is so disliked. Because at this point it is hilarious! It is so worth making fun of. It literally brings me daily happiness to come here and watch the flopping and flailing and fanhurt that really, for me, has come to represent what the new BioWare is all about. Was that an EA decision? To move from quality rpg products to emo, misunderstood game designers who do bad work? I'm sure we can speculate.

Oh he mad.

  No you goof.  He laughin.  Speshially at the fool blind!

If you say so.

I do.

[archangel1996]

alsonamedbort wrote...

And your evidence of that is what, exactly?

You saw one of them defending the ending? And i don't mean the Art BS
You saw the selling of the DLC after EC?
i hope they know they screwed things up, they know that it's too late to fix things

Modifié par archangel1996, 21 février 2013 - 07:47 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

i liked the ending and i liked the dlc ending.

the only thing i didnt like was the pacing of the omega dlc and the lack of new enemy types (Dragoon, Bomber) And the way nyreen kind of went out clumsily


I've never seen a requested ending fix that wasnt generic and meaningless and missing the point of the reapers.  The reapers arent geth, cerberus, or collectors, they're bigger and badder than us.  Getting the hysperion period statue AND the quarians doesnt mean now we can beat harbinger and his fleet of unstoppable cthulhu's.


most people dont even realise the difference between the baby reapers you fight on rannoch, tuchunka, and london, and the actual real reapers that are unstoppable and impossible to kill.

Pretty sure theres a point where they explain that reaper shielding is impervious to dreadnaught fire and people just DIDNT want to listen because they wanted COOL GENERIC WAR BATLE WHERE GOODGUYS WIN WIN WIN WIN



I think its hilarious how most people's suggested ending changes are just the destroy ending but  "The geth dont die"   real meaningful suggestion there guys.  (in high ems they dont state that the geth die anymore, isnt that good enough?)

Modifié par Doctor_Jackstraw, 21 février 2013 - 07:51 .

[rowan93]

Hmm I'm not sure about this. On the one hand more character interaction is great, hopefully Grunt turns up. On the other I'm not a massive fan of the romances. Then the casino sounds cool, but eh i'm not sure about it. There seems to be a lot of content which is really good though. I need to hear more about the mission and see if its interesting enough really.

[mcgreggers99]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Sales for omega and leviathan were crap for an AAA, add this dlc to the list....not a smart move by merizan as instantly you lose sales by saying what she did, at least get maximum sales first then have your arrogance.

Link please?

To my knowledge they haven't released hard numbers about the sales of DLC. I actually have heard the opposite, that they sold quite well.

[Iakus]

CaptainCommander wrote...

I love her reply to the Zonker. It explains why we haven't gotten post-ending DLC because in their channels and her twitter (seriously?)  they haven't gotten any.
How far up ones own arse do people have to be until the world seems like its all their vision?

Wait, seriously? 

I've glanced at the tTwitter feeds from time to time, and that is patently untrue!

[FAButzke]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

https://twitter.com/...673435458617346

That whole conversation upsets me. 

At least Clevernoob is asking for numbers.

Clevernoob should be quite mad he made all those videos for nothing, no? hehehe

[Liamv2]

Ah people are complaining it is not a ending DLC how "unexpected"

[NeonFlux117]

Mcfly616 wrote...

"Waaaaah Bioware doesn't listen!!!!"



I guess some people think the world revolves around them.


A great many people have asked for additional romance with their L.I.'s and have been begging and pleading for more time with the ME2 cast.


You're either blind or in complete and utter denial if you think they didn't take feedback into account when creating this DLC. (Most likely the latter)

I agree. Look what they've done. 


Zaeed is confrimed. Wrex. Miranda. Garrus. Mabye even Jack and Samara. I'm more than pleased. And I despise the endings still. But this is enough. And this is just the begining what is this 'conspiracy' and what are the top secret council files- catalyst or Harby, or Shepards Past? Who knows. Also, who are those military elite dudes in the photo's? 

At the very least this DLC is enticing and interesting. And huge!! 4 GB. Leviathan was pretty big and that was 2. 

[Fawx9]

mcgreggers99 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Sales for omega and leviathan were crap for an AAA, add this dlc to the list....not a smart move by merizan as instantly you lose sales by saying what she did, at least get maximum sales first then have your arrogance.

Link please?

To my knowledge they haven't released hard numbers about the sales of DLC. I actually have heard the opposite, that they sold quite well.

The Xbox Live DLC list is the only real thing we have to go by. And honestly it's still ait too soon. But I don't remember either being more than middle of the road(Omega might have been quite low)

[XxBrokenBonezxX]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

https://twitter.com/...673435458617346

That whole conversation upsets me.

It wouldn't be as angering if Jessica didn't have a "holier than thou" attitude towards everyone who dares say anything.

[LazyTechGuy]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

https://twitter.com/...673435458617346

That whole conversation upsets me. 

At least Clevernoob is asking for numbers.

what a kick in the quad.

- we did not like the ending
- you are not the majority
- how many were the majority
- that is classified.

i am mildly upset right now.

Your secret numbers were not as big as the other group's secret numbers.  

Cheers.

[Liamv2]

Mcfly616 wrote...

"Waaaaah Bioware doesn't listen!!!!"



I guess some people think the world revolves around them.


A great many people have asked for additional romance with their L.I.'s and have been begging and pleading for more time with the ME2 cast.


You're either blind or in complete and utter denial if you think they didn't take feedback into account when creating this DLC. (Most likely the latter)

QFT

[Lyria]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

protognosis wrote...

Wow. Not every piece of content is for everyone....
Did she really just say that?
I guess the "minority" of people wanting ending content just need to stick with head cannon.

I may buy this. Depends on if the new MP weapons will make an appearance in SP. The chance to party up with Zaeed for one last big guddamn heroic mission is almost worth the price of admission.

same thing is true for my money.

Im getting the feeling that the "majority" of people are annoyed with how Bioware has squandered the goodwill its developed with them by selling unpolished products.

I'm 50/50 on buying this. As much as I think Jessica is awesome that whole twitter thread and "majority" comment annoy me.


Im going to wait on purchasing the dlc until a review comes in. Im still burned on my Omega DLC purchase.

[shepskisaac]

At this point, even I'm tired of ending complainers who simply refuse to accept that Citadel DLC will not be post-ending/Indoctrination/whatever. Thankfully it will be over in less than 2 weeks.