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[clone wars]

Saito404 wrote...

So, it means no Alternate Appearance Pack 2? <_<

maybe

[Drewton]

GoldenPersona wrote...


What is very irritating is that BSN has been filled with topics and posts about people wanting a romance DLC and closure with their favorite characters. Bioware delivers EXACTLY what those topics were asking for, and now people have the gall to turn their heads and say "I didn't want that, why did you do that, you don't listen!!!"

Because you know that we all wanted that?

[dreamgazer]

GoldenPersona wrote...

What is very irritating is that BSN has been filled with topics and posts about people wanting a romance DLC and closure with their favorite characters. Bioware delivers EXACTLY what those topics were asking for, and now people have the gall to turn their heads and say "I didn't want that, why did you do that, you don't listen!!!"

Well, they're likely not the same people.  The BSN well and truly isn't a hivemind.

Also, they might have wanted these things under different circumstances. 

[Drewton]

dreamgazer wrote...

GoldenPersona wrote...

What is very irritating is that BSN has been filled with topics and posts about people wanting a romance DLC and closure with their favorite characters. Bioware delivers EXACTLY what those topics were asking for, and now people have the gall to turn their heads and say "I didn't want that, why did you do that, you don't listen!!!"

Well, they're likely not the same people.  The BSN well and truly isn't a hivemind.

Also, they might have wanted these things under different circumstances. 

Yeah, if you think BSN is a hivemind you obviously don't know it.

People who have wanted IT like myself have been driven out.

Modifié par Drewton, 22 février 2013 - 03:57 .

[humes spork]

GoldenPersona wrote...

This topic is the perfect example of BSN, and possibly the core Mass Effect fanbase. The topic starts out with people praising it and being excited for about 15 pages of it, and then it slowly creeps down into negativity, and now we're all back to hating the game.

Well, I hate to go negative here, but this DLC and this thread have been excellent litmus tests for people who actually do care about plausibility, narrative consistency, drama, and story coherence, and those who just latched onto those things as a vehicle for simply hating on the game because they just didn't like it for whatever reason. That's not intended as a complaint registered about the game or this DLC on my part, of course -- merely the "mercurial" nature of the community.

Personally, I'm totally unsurprised the former category is not remotely the size those of the latter would have us believe. I'm glad some of the latter category are getting what they personally wanted all along, and that's reason enough to forgive BW, but on the other hand would it have killed some of those folks to just stick to their own complaints instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater?

[Archonsg]

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

BearlyHere wrote...

Codename_Code wrote...

The formal wear and smiles for everybody in the first picture is indicative that the war is over. This looks like a clear-cut happy celebration, I mean, wrex is all dress up for gods sake, if this is not post-ending bioware did a really sadistic and cruel scene, happy romance scenes coliding with the original bitter sweet and anxious romance scenes, and dot get me started with the decoration stuff just when shepard is about to hunt illusive mans head.

If this is no post-ending, is plain nonsense.

Even though it's supposed to take place before London, I wonder if there's a way to play it after MEHEM. That would almost fix the game. It would be interesting to see how many people ignore London altogether and play this like a post ending mod.

Its not post-ending.   Period.  Yes its lame.  Yes,  Bioware didnt fully listen.   Time to move on.   I suggest poking fun at their expense.

Oh, I intend to, poke fun at it that is.
However to be fair, at tbis point my jibes are based on *what is said* of the DLC, as opposed to what is actually in it.
For which, there is youtube.
I still intend to reserve final judgement till I see actual gameplay and the contents of the DLC before truly mocking it.

[phillip100]

It's going to be cool that we get to use our ME2 squadmates again.

[KevShep]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

15 bucks ...1200 points

and what we do, is wasting time on the citadel, while people die in the war.

This^ it makes no sense to be having a grand time when so many are diying. I really hope this is a post ME3 story.

[Asch Lavigne]

KevShep wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

15 bucks ...1200 points

and what we do, is wasting time on the citadel, while people die in the war.

This^ it makes no sense to be having a grand time when so many are diying. I really hope this is a post ME3 story.

It isn't post game

It isn't anymore silly than doing sidequests while tracking down Saren or taking down the Collectors.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 22 février 2013 - 04:14 .

[AlanC9]

LandoN7 wrote...


The idea of the Citadel dlc taking place during the ending is too absurd for words.

Who said anything about the DLC happening during the ending?

[The Love Runner]

So the Citadel DLC is basically the Mass Effect version of Ocean's Eleven.

Time to get Wrex into the box.

[AlanC9]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

It isn't anymore silly than doing sidequests while tracking down Saren or taking down the Collectors.

Or hanging out at Purgatory. We've had the crew taking shore leave every time we docked at the Citadel.

[DetcelferVisionary]

GoldenPersona wrote...

What is very irritating is that BSN has been filled with topics and posts about people wanting a romance DLC and closure with their favorite characters. Bioware delivers EXACTLY what those topics were asking for, and now people have the gall to turn their heads and say "I didn't want that, why did you do that, you don't listen!!!" Sounds like my sister during her senior high days. I also have a niece that likes to do that and she's only 3 >___>

This only proves the point that people just don't know what they want and they can't be happy. It's fine if you don't like this DLC. I personally didn't want just a romance DLC. I wanted a DLC related to the Keepers actually, but to say Bioware never listened is stupidity at its worst.

As for a Shepard Pimp Pad...what's so bad about that? You aren't forced to do it. It sacrifices the emergency of war, the reality of being at war so you can't enjoy R&R.....what? Are we really worried about that? Jee, and here I thought I was playing a game and was supposed to have fun or something. It'd be like complaining in Persona 4 that I wanted to hang out with my friend and solve his emotional struggles because someone is stuck in the TV world that needs rescuing.

1)  DLC and closure in your first paragraph quoted above?  Dont make me laugh.  This isnt closure.  Its not happening post-ending.  This is fluff romance.  There is already a climax to the relationship just prior to defeating Cerberus.   We didnt NEED more relationship extensions OTHER THAN the few characters that were left out.  But it is,  what it is and most of those people have accepted you cant make the entire cast live or run the course you want them to.   What purpose does tacking on more fluff to the relationships serve at this point if its not AFTER the events of the ending.  None.  There cant be closure because we know very little about what happens to those characters.   Its up to our own imaginations for now.

2)  I'm a perfectly happy person.   I can also be invested emotionally into the story and give a damn how the Bioware desides to go out.   I bought a product, I'm entitled to an opinion and you're entitled to yours.  Throwing something out for the public requires you DEAL WITH the CONSEQUENCES.  They are big kids,  they can handle it.  The question is are you?

3)  Shepards PIMP pad flies in the face of Shepards objectives to save the galaxy.   It flies in the face of Anderson who is currently fighting a never ending battle waiting on Shepards results.  Imagine the holographic phone call he makes to Shepard in his new pad asking how progress is going while hes busy transmitting from a collapsed city.  STUPID.   How does Javik stand to let Shepard lazy about when he is the Avatar of Vengeance who once said he would destroy anyone who stands in his way.   Shepard doing nothing sounds like standing in his way.   How are ALL these characters at the Citadel at any point in time in the ME3 storyline make ANY sense?   Rex was suppose to be making babies.   Miranda was suppose to be tracking down her sister and father.   Jacob was off building the crucible.  They all stopped for a hay-day?  You ****g kidding me?  STUPID.  How often does the US Military get get to leisure about when on the job?  Now imagine the galaxy is as stake and every day matters.   I can understand taking a breather,  but taking the time at that moment to get yourself a house,  go make some blue babies with Liara,  chill at a casino...   you have got to be drinking the COOL-AID of bEAware.  

Modifié par DetcelferVisionary, 22 février 2013 - 04:21 .

[WRXtacy]

How could it be post ending dlc if the citadel is almost destroyed? In the screen shots it looks unscathed.

[KevShep]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

15 bucks ...1200 points

and what we do, is wasting time on the citadel, while people die in the war.

This^ it makes no sense to be having a grand time when so many are diying. I really hope this is a post ME3 story.

It isn't post game

It isn't anymore silly than doing sidequests while tracking down Saren or taking down the Collectors.

If its not post ending DLC then Iam not buying it. I have yet to buy any DLC's for ME3 for this reason.

[DetcelferVisionary]

WRXtacy wrote...

How could it be post ending dlc if the citadel is almost destroyed? In the screen shots it looks unscathed.

Its not post-ending.

[edisnooM]

Well I'm slightly underwhelmed at the prospect of this DLC, I realize it was a fools hope to hold out for "something" to fix the series for me, but there we have it. At least they seem to be listening to some people as to what should be in the game, so they're not totally deaf to the fans yet, if slightly selective in their hearing.

I do find it a bit silly given the sombre note of the game forced on the player, and the constant "Everyone's dying" "War is hell!" messages flung about, that we would take time to play Quasar, do a few rounds of Arena battles, and do some interior decorating. I mean if it's after the coup than Mordin and Thane have just died, perfect time to pick out drapes.

Also I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already (I haven't read all 40 pages), but from the description of the plot I wonder if it's the cut Cerberus missions on the Citadel that were in the leaked script, if so it's another case of cut content being re-purposed for later sale.

[alsonamedbort]

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

GoldenPersona wrote...

What is very irritating is that BSN has been filled with topics and posts about people wanting a romance DLC and closure with their favorite characters. Bioware delivers EXACTLY what those topics were asking for, and now people have the gall to turn their heads and say "I didn't want that, why did you do that, you don't listen!!!" Sounds like my sister during her senior high days. I also have a niece that likes to do that and she's only 3 >___>

This only proves the point that people just don't know what they want and they can't be happy. It's fine if you don't like this DLC. I personally didn't want just a romance DLC. I wanted a DLC related to the Keepers actually, but to say Bioware never listened is stupidity at its worst.

As for a Shepard Pimp Pad...what's so bad about that? You aren't forced to do it. It sacrifices the emergency of war, the reality of being at war so you can't enjoy R&R.....what? Are we really worried about that? Jee, and here I thought I was playing a game and was supposed to have fun or something. It'd be like complaining in Persona 4 that I wanted to hang out with my friend and solve his emotional struggles because someone is stuck in the TV world that needs rescuing.

1)  DLC and closure in your first paragraph quoted above?  Dont make me laugh.  This isnt closure.  Its not happening post-ending.  This is fluff romance.  There is already a climax to the relationship just prior to defeating Cerberus.   We didnt NEED more relationship extensions OTHER THAN the few characters that were left out.  But it is,  what it is and most of those people have accepted you cant make the entire cast live or run the course you want them to.   What purpose does tacking on more fluff to the relationships serve at this point if its not AFTER the events of the ending.  None.  There cant be closure because we know very little about what happens to those characters.   Its up to our own imaginations for now.

2)  I'm a perfectly happy person.   I can also be invested emotionally into the story and give a damn how the Bioware desides to go out.   I bought a product, I'm entitled to an opinion and you're entitled to yours.  Throwing something out for the public requires you DEAL WITH the CONSEQUENCES.  They are big kids,  they can handle it.  The question is are you?

3)  Shepards PIMP pad flies in the face of Shepards objectives to save the galaxy.   It flies in the face of Anderson who is currently fighting a never ending battle waiting on Shepards results.  Imagine the holographic phone call he makes to Shepard in his new pad asking how progress is going while hes busy transmitting from a collapsed city.  STUPID.   How does Javik stand to let Shepard lazy about when he is the Avatar of Vengeance who once said he would destroy anyone who stands in his way.   Shepard doing nothing sounds like standing in his way.   How are ALL these characters at the Citadel at any point in time in the ME3 storyline make ANY sense?   Rex was suppose to be making babies.   Miranda was suppose to be tracking down her sister and father.   Jacob was off building the crucible.  They all stopped for a hay-day?  You ****g kidding me?  STUPID.  How often does the US Military get get to leisure about when on the job?  Now imagine the galaxy is as stake and every day matters.   I can understand taking a breather,  but taking the time at that moment to get yourself a house,  go make some blue babies with Liara,  chill at a casino...   you have got to be drinking the COOL-AID of bEAware.  

I didn't realize you had played the entire DLC already and therefore know how it all plays out.  Can you send me a copy?

[Mopbucket2]

Wow, there's a whole lot of rage about a DLC that no one has played. Get a grip people. Stop raging about crap that's in only in your imagination. I mean, at least wait until the DLC is out before you judge.

Even then, it's still a game. It's not real life. If only people could get this indignant or involved about the troubles going on in the real world.

[KevShep]

edisnooM wrote...

I do find it a bit silly given the sombre note of the game forced on the player, and the constant "Everyone's dying" "War is hell!" messages flung about, that we would take time to play Quasar, do a few rounds of Arena battles, and do some interior decorating. I mean if it's after the coup than Mordin and Thane have just died, perfect time to pick out drapes.
.

This^ it makes no sense to have a DLC right in the middle of the BIGGEST WAR EVER and shep is decorating.

dont get me wrong I like customisation but I want instead is a way to fix that massive mistake of an ending or by continuing it in a post ending DLC.

[Archonsg]

MisterJB wrote...

Drewton wrote...
people thought LOTR ending went on too long.

What? I remember being absolutely livid back in 2003 that they had cut the devastation of the Shire.

Bingo.
I think he meant the plebeian masses, who have never read the books, not just The Hobbit and three Lord of the Rings books but Simarilion and Children of Hurin. You can't call yourself a "fan" of Middle Earth otherwise.

[DetcelferVisionary]

alsonamedbort wrote...

I didn't realize you had played the entire DLC already and therefore know how it all plays out.  Can you send me a copy?

You're apparently a little slow on the uptake.   So I'll help you out.  We know its not post-ending DLC.  We know how the story ends.  We now have DLC aka Leviathan that explains parts of the ending.   HOW is this supposed to be DLC thats going to be a great finally.  This Space Opera ends with PLAYER HOUSING.  This same house BTW as we all know - explodes.  Its about as important at this juncture as the romance in the Titanic.  Why does it matter,  the boat sinks?  The trumpets turned into a gazoo.

Modifié par DetcelferVisionary, 22 février 2013 - 04:35 .

[AlanC9]

Wait, what? The apartment is bundled along with a whole mission, isn't it?I seem to recall something about a conspiracy, anyway.

Modifié par AlanC9, 22 février 2013 - 04:39 .

[alsonamedbort]

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

I didn't realize you had played the entire DLC already and therefore know how it all plays out.  Can you send me a copy?

You're apparently a little slow on the uptake.   So I'll help you out.

[******]

We know its not post-ending DLC.  We know how the story ends.  We now have DLC aka Leviathan that explains parts of the ending.   HOW is this supposed to be DLC thats going to be a great finally.  This Space Opera ends with PLAYER HOUSING.  This same house BTW as we all know - explodes.  Its about as important at this juncture as the romance in the Titanic.  Why does it matter,  the boat sinks?  The trumpets turned into a gazoo.

Like I said:  you haven't played it.  There's no context for how any of these elements are incorporated into the game.  If DLC that doesn't affect the ending doesn't appeal to you then fine, but honestly there's such a small amount of info about this DLC that it's way too early to make broad sweeping statements about how terrible it is.

[Reap_ii]

seriously, Bioware, i cant wrap my head around these strange ideas for this DLC. the only thing that is for certain is that many of the ideas, even if they are optional, would just be better if left out. old squadmates is the ONLY thing that makes sense. and to me not worth $15, especially knowing there will be no essential changes to the ending(s). to each his own and all that, but i predict this dlc will be the worst selling of all ME dlc's.