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[Landon7001]

As far as "leaving it to your imagination" about shepard's fate, that truly is a load of ****. Nowehere else in the entire series is anything left to our imaginations, its all various options for definite outcomes. Mass Effect was so rich in detail. How can they take us through this intimate, personalized story with our shepard's and then just **** us over like that? Its so wrong.

[Drewton]

Sion1138 wrote...

It's not in the interest of their continuing business, it's not in the interest of the audience certainly. What in the world was the plan?

Yeah this is what bewilders me too. It's like they don't want to make money.

Landon7001 wrote...

As far as "leaving it to your imagination" about shepard's fate, that truly is a load of ****. Nowehere else in the entire series is anything left to our imaginations, its all various options for definite outcomes. Mass Effect was so rich in detail. How can they take us through this intimate, personalized story with our shepard's and then just **** us over like that? Its so wrong.

Agreed completely. It's like showing Luke and Vader in Star Wars VI crashing down on Endor after the Death Star exploded and leaving their fate open.

IT is absolutely the way to go IMO. Doesn't change the endings technically but makes them a hell of a lot better, and it allows for sequels and continuing the story.

Modifié par Drewton, 23 février 2013 - 07:44 .

[Dorrieb]

MJoshier wrote...
As a writer myself, i don't know. As a writer you usually don't go and add random chapters to your book after you've published it however you might expound on it and do a spin-off or something set with in the main plot but it would be a different book.

As a writer yourself, don't you believe that independent clauses joined by coordinating conjunctions ought to be separated by a comma?

[BearlyHere]

Sion1138 wrote...

It's the same for me, my Shepard, my character. But I've already ended that story and my character ended up in limbo, I don't know if he's dead or alive or if anyone within the universe knows what happened. Now, if I were to revisit the story, I would know that I am heading for an anti-climax.

This, combined with the apprehension I have for the Catalyst plot, is perhaps one of the primary factors that killed any interest I may have had for additional stories.

Now, I frequently see people say that I should imagine what happened, that the narrator shouldn't have to spell it out for me but I get a throbbing headache when I hear people say that. 

The fate of the main character you should imagine, but the romantic interactions, casino gambling and apartment furnishing should be in the game!? 

Yeah, talk about picking 3-10, 21, and 78 on a list of 100 things wrong with ME3, and ignoring 1 and 2. But Shep still dies or lies gasping for breath in a pile of smoldering rubble, and even MEHEM can't turn Citadel into a post game mod, because it has to be played before Cronos Station.

I've grown cynical enough about Bioware that I see this DLC as pure fan service for the fanboys/girls, but Talimancers still won't get to see her face. Thanemancers miss out because they're just chicks, and chicks aren't gamers, so the writers forgot he was a LI. Oh, and is Jacob going to spill some drinks on the Citadel with Shep and his new babymama?

I expect that to get anything other than the basics at Citadel Ikea to furnish Shep's pad, it's going to require microtransactions. That's the future of EAware, and it's not pretty.

[AlanC9]

Drewton wrote...
IT is absolutely the way to go IMO. Doesn't change the endings technically but makes them a hell of a lot better, and it allows for sequels and continuing the story.

Interesting definition of "technically" you're using there.

[MJoshier]

Dorrieb wrote...

MJoshier wrote...
As a writer myself, i don't know. As a writer you usually don't go and add random chapters to your book after you've published it however you might expound on it and do a spin-off or something set with in the main plot but it would be a different book.

As a writer yourself, don't you believe that independent clauses joined by coordinating conjunctions ought to be separated by a comma?

I'm not editing post I put on this forum for any benefit. Being a writer does not mean one is a grammar ****. I apologize for forgetting about the comma. 


edit: the censor above was not profane. 

Modifié par MJoshier, 23 février 2013 - 08:34 .

[MJoshier]

Drewton wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

It's not in the interest of their continuing business, it's not in the interest of the audience certainly. What in the world was the plan?

Yeah this is what bewilders me too. It's like they don't want to make money.

Landon7001 wrote...

As far as "leaving it to your imagination" about shepard's fate, that truly is a load of ****. Nowehere else in the entire series is anything left to our imaginations, its all various options for definite outcomes. Mass Effect was so rich in detail. How can they take us through this intimate, personalized story with our shepard's and then just **** us over like that? Its so wrong.

Agreed completely. It's like showing Luke and Vader in Star Wars VI crashing down on Endor after the Death Star exploded and leaving their fate open.

IT is absolutely the way to go IMO. Doesn't change the endings technically but makes them a hell of a lot better, and it allows for sequels and continuing the story.

I think I misled some people and didn't say what I meant. I meant that I do not agree with the ending, I do not totally hate it either. I agree with you on that they should've given a definitive answer one way or the other. I never mean to imply that they were "leaving it to your imagination" in anyway and I apologize for it. I simply meant that because of the ending, of which  I didn't agree, I went off and wrote something for myself that made sense to me. My happy ending, if you will. Once again, I apologize for the confusion. 

[Drewton]

AlanC9 wrote...

Drewton wrote...
IT is absolutely the way to go IMO. Doesn't change the endings technically but makes them a hell of a lot better, and it allows for sequels and continuing the story.

Interesting definition of "technically" you're using there.

Indeed

[wafflez]

This dlc actually looks really interesting. Depending on reviews, it may be the first mass effect 3 dlc I will actually buy.

[zigamortis]

hopefully it will still do something with the ending.

[Dorrieb]

MJoshier wrote...
Being a writer does not mean one is a grammar ****.

Yes it does. In fact, not only does a writer have to be a grammar ****, but also a grammar #*#*#* and even a grammar *#&%!. Grammar is to a writer as maths is to an engineer.

[jstme]

Dorrieb wrote...

MJoshier wrote...
Being a writer does not mean one is a grammar ****.

Yes it does. In fact, not only does a writer have to be a grammar ****, but also a grammar #*#*#* and even a grammar *#&%!. Grammar is to a writer as maths is to an engineer.

I think that you spelled *#&%! wrong.

[MJoshier]

Dorrieb wrote...

MJoshier wrote...
Being a writer does not mean one is a grammar ****.

Yes it does. In fact, not only does a writer have to be a grammar ****, but also a grammar #*#*#* and even a grammar *#&%!. Grammar is to a writer as maths is to an engineer.

Then, pray tell, why do writers use editors? To find mistakes: grammar wise, sp check, typos and etc. Also, are you telling me I'm not a writer by judging from a scentence posted on this forum because I missed a comma? I'm not perfect and I do not see how one sentence, unsastifactory to you, is bases for judging one as a writer. When a person writes something and hands that paper over to someone else to edit said paper, it is because that writer feels they may miss something in editing because it is the writer who wrote it. An editor looks at the paper with a fresh set of eyes and will find things the writer missed. So no, while grammar is obviously necessary to a writer, being overly zealous with a missed punctuation mark in one sentence is not bases for judgement. I will have to agree to disagree. Again, I will apologize for missing the comma in a previous sentence. Not one writer is perfect in their writing, grammar or otherwise. Therefore neither are you. Thank you and good day. 

[devSin]

Dorrieb wrote...

Yes it does. In fact, not only does a writer have to be a grammar ****, but also a grammar #*#*#* and even a grammar *#&%!. Grammar is to a writer as maths is to an engineer.

Writers often have terrible spelling and punctuation. This is what editors are for.

Writing does not mean the ability to compose grammatically perfect prose. It just means being able to convey an idea or story effectively using the written word.

Obviously, it needs to be coherent, but it need not be perfect.

And in this world, you have no idea if somebody is communicating in their native language, from which device they may be posting (typing on a phone is not the same as typing on a full-size keyboard), or any number of other factors that may affect what they write in a forum post.

So rather than concentrating on the form in which a person's ideas are expressed, why not attempt to understand what they're actually trying to say and then focus on responding to that? It would likely lead you toward more effective communication, and to more relevant discussion.

Modifié par devSin, 23 février 2013 - 10:33 .

[ff-leishi01]

I'm disappointed that ME3 still ends the way it does Still I'm looking forward to the DLC Especially if it gives me more time with the characters I'll just deny the end even exists!

[AlanC9]

MJoshier wrote...
Then, pray tell, why do writers use editors? To find mistakes: grammar wise, sp check, typos and etc. Also, are you telling me I'm not a writer by judging from a scentence posted on this forum because I missed a comma? I'm not perfect and I do not see how one sentence, unsastifactory to you, is bases for judging one as a writer. When a person writes something and hands that paper over to someone else to edit said paper, it is because that writer feels they may miss something in editing because it is the writer who wrote it. An editor looks at the paper with a fresh set of eyes and will find things the writer missed. So no, while grammar is obviously necessary to a writer, being overly zealous with a missed punctuation mark in one sentence is not bases for judgement. I will have to agree to disagree. Again, I will apologize for missing the comma in a previous sentence. Not one writer is perfect in their writing, grammar or otherwise. Therefore neither are you. Thank you and good day. 

The man's got a point. When I was a copyeditor I had to clean up stuff worse than this all the time. And we don't hold forum posts to the same standard that professionally published stuff is held to.

Modifié par AlanC9, 23 février 2013 - 11:57 .

[Dorrieb]

[quote]devSin wrote...
Writers often have terrible spelling and punctuation. This is what editors are for.[/quote]

That is not so. Any writer who wants to be published and sold needs to be able to use grammar correctly, the same way that a carpenter needs to be able to use hammers and saws correctly, because those are their tools. Editors help the writer by providing feedback, because the author, being too close to the material, might miss inconsistencies, self-indulgent prose, or assume that things are clear when they might not be, for example. They are not there to clean up your grammar and spelling like a schoolteacher.[/quote]

[quote]devSin wrote...
Writing does not mean the ability to compose grammatically perfect prose. It just means being able to convey an idea or story effectively using the written word.[/quote]

No, that is why there is such a thing as a ghostwriter, because simply 'being able to convey an idea or story using the written word' is not enough to make something publishable. You'll find that most books credited to celebrities, politicians, businessmen, and the like were actually written by a professional writer.

[quote]devSin wrote...
So rather than concentrating on the form in which a person's ideas are expressed, why not attempt to understand what they're actually trying to say and then focus on responding to that? It would likely lead you toward more effective communication, and to more relevant discussion.[/quote]

Sorry. What was the discussion? I seem to have got distracted.

[Aerialight]

 Apologies is this has been answered but I'm not looking through 52 pages to find the answr, does this mean no more appearance packs? Any word about that or no?

[UrgentArchengel]

Toxic White wrote...

 Apologies is this has been answered but I'm not looking through 52 pages to find the answr, does this mean no more appearance packs? Any word about that or no?

I don't have a link, but Gamble said this is the last one.  But we may get new weapons, and looks in the DLC itself.

[nrobbiec]

There definitely seems to be new casual stuff, not sure if it'll be permanent or not though.

[Hey]

Very excited for this! The characters are why I play this and it's a perfect way to say goodbye to it. I'm feeling a bit nostalgic over a game and that's a testament to Bioware. Nice job guys! It's been a good run.

[Iakus]

nrobbiec wrote...

There definitely seems to be new casual stuff, not sure if it'll be permanent or not though.

If this DLC gave Ash a new permanent casual outfit, I'd buy it for that alone

[UrgentArchengel]

With the original M-7 Lancer included, this baby is all full on Nostalgia. March 5th can't come quick enough, and it's like 9-10 days away.

[Drewton]

Dorrieb wrote...

MJoshier wrote...
Being a writer does not mean one is a grammar ****.

Yes it does. In fact, not only does a writer have to be a grammar ****, but also a grammar #*#*#* and even a grammar *#&%!. Grammar is to a writer as maths is to an engineer.

Sorry someone didn't use perfect grammar on a message board, which has exactly the same standards of a novel