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My wife is 16 years my senor. We've been married 23 years and she's old, overwieght and no where near a beauty queen and has never given me children due to a medical condition we discovered after 2 years in.  I still love her with all my heart. She has cancer and I'll care for her and clean bed sores every day if needed.  THAT is romance, THAT is love.

Don't be shallow and don't use hyperboly as examples.


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a testament to the human spirit and the highest ideal of romantic love here!

Give this man a round of applause!
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Remember, a single counter-example is enough to disprove a claim that "All A is B".

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Dup3r wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Dup3r wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Pokemario wrote...

I loved Tali's romance scene. Some talimancers complained about Tali's face. When the Turian says "I already have (seen who the Quarian truly is,he doesn't need to see her face)",he explained what I am trying to tell everyone since ME3 came out: we romanced Tali for her personality,surely not for her face.


But if her face looks like Goofy then you would UNDO your "romance".  The face matters.


don't be shallow.


Just the facts.  I deal with reality, not gauzy, hazy fantasy.  If you removed her mask and saw some spider-like face, a dog face, a horse face, a pig face...the deal would be off.  OR if her tight bod had been some lumpy bumpy round thing there would be no question.  No one would be "romancing" her.  Admit it.  Accept it. 


My wife is 16 years my senor. We've been married 23 years and she's old, overwieght and no where near a beauty queen and has never given me children due to a medical condition we discovered after 2 years in.  I still love her with all my heart. She has cancer and I'll care for her and clean bed sores every day if needed.  THAT is romance, THAT is love.

Don't be shallow and don't use hyperboly as examples.


I'm so sorry to hear she has cancer. As a ex-sufferer myself, I can understand what she's going through.

Give her my best, although it does sounds like she's in good hands.  B)

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I just wanted to thank Bioware for this DLC and mention that I clearly noticed the effort that went into this last hooray.
Its the kind of goodbye Shepard and all the characters I've grown to love deserve.  (Still sad that its over though..) 

Thanks! :)

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anyone sit laughing for a few hours at

Shepard
Grunt
Shepard
Wrex
Commaaaaaander Shepard
Shepard Shepard Shepard
Wrex Grunt
Shepard
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepard
Shepard Shepard
Commaaaander Shepard
Shepard Shepard Shepard Shepard Shepard

Omg why does something so simple never get old?

Ok just me?

i should go

Modifié par krul2k, 21 mars 2013 - 04:36 .


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I would have rather paid the 15 bucks for a proper ending, for some real closure, for the endings we were promised. The extended cut dlc did nothing to make things better in my opinion as it still left massive plot holes and questions. The citadel dlc was fun to play but over all it was simply a fan service fluff piece to try to get back in the good graces of those upset with the ending. They over hyped this game and flat out lied so much that I had to look at the label again to make sure it said Bioware and not Lionhead Studios. I mean seriously. After all of this they are trying to get everyone pumped up for a Mass Effect 4 or whatever they decide to call it? After literally destroying a trilogy that was just about perfect until the ending?

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Make ME4 an ending for ME3:D - plot holes for entire game.
And make it like CItadel:))
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Joke.( and a bit of truth)

But seriously - If ME4 will be made CItadel like - Ill be happy

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Kryptoniangamer wrote...

I would have rather paid the 15 bucks for a proper ending, for some real closure, for the endings we were promised. The extended cut dlc did nothing to make things better in my opinion as it still left massive plot holes and questions. The citadel dlc was fun to play but over all it was simply a fan service fluff piece to try to get back in the good graces of those upset with the ending. They over hyped this game and flat out lied so much that I had to look at the label again to make sure it said Bioware and not Lionhead Studios. I mean seriously. After all of this they are trying to get everyone pumped up for a Mass Effect 4 or whatever they decide to call it? After literally destroying a trilogy that was just about perfect until the ending?


Waaaah

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Kryptoniangamer wrote...

They over hyped this game and flat out lied so much that I had to look at the label again to make sure it said Bioware and not Lionhead Studios. I mean seriously. After all of this they are trying to get everyone pumped up for a Mass Effect 4 or whatever they decide to call it? After literally destroying a trilogy that was just about perfect until the ending?

To say you're exaggerating would be an understatement.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

Kryptoniangamer wrote...

They over hyped this game and flat out lied so much that I had to look at the label again to make sure it said Bioware and not Lionhead Studios. I mean seriously. After all of this they are trying to get everyone pumped up for a Mass Effect 4 or whatever they decide to call it? After literally destroying a trilogy that was just about perfect until the ending?

To say you're exaggerating would be an understatement.


The underlined part is the only bit he exaggerated.

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SilJeff wrote...

Waaaah


Well look at you being all grown up.

Nice.

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plnero wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Kryptoniangamer wrote...

They over hyped this game and flat out lied so much that I had to look at the label again to make sure it said Bioware and not Lionhead Studios. I mean seriously. After all of this they are trying to get everyone pumped up for a Mass Effect 4 or whatever they decide to call it? After literally destroying a trilogy that was just about perfect until the ending?

To say you're exaggerating would be an understatement.


The underlined part is the only bit he exaggerated.


He's right about the false advertising, but ME3 was not over hyped. It got the marketing a trilogy finale deserves. Though I suppose its subject, I don't think ME3's marketing was particularly intense or over the top, and if it was over hyped, that was largely the fans' fault. Expectations far exceeding realistic standards.

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False advertising? Such as?

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I don't fully understand why so many people need to complain over and over about the game content and the content released for the game. This trilogy is amazing. My favorite trilogy by far. I would even say they are my favorite games period. The ending may not have been what everyone was looking for, but I doubt it was easy to come up with an ending for this series. I am more than happy with what they did with this trilogy and how it evolved from the first title. If you really have so many issues and so much to sit and complain about, then stop playing the game. Sell it, trade it, give it away, just stop making a fuss over something you can't change. If it really bothers you that much, GET RID OF THE GAME AND STOP GIVING BIOWARE MONEY. To end, I really, really don't see at all how ME3 was 'falsely' advertised.

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dubArtillery wrote...

I don't fully understand why so many people need to complain over and over about the game content and the content released for the game. This trilogy is amazing. My favorite trilogy by far. I would even say they are my favorite games period. The ending may not have been what everyone was looking for, but I doubt it was easy to come up with an ending for this series. I am more than happy with what they did with this trilogy and how it evolved from the first title. If you really have so many issues and so much to sit and complain about, then stop playing the game. Sell it, trade it, give it away, just stop making a fuss over something you can't change. If it really bothers you that much, GET RID OF THE GAME AND STOP GIVING BIOWARE MONEY. To end, I really, really don't see at all how ME3 was 'falsely' advertised.


Well said. The story had to end somewhere. Don't get me wrong I'd have preferred to see Shep retiring to Risa and then coming back at some point but everything moves on!

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@John Spartan248

It certainly isn't the best ending, and I'm sure there was a lot of ideas brought to the table when they were producing the game. However, this is the ending that was chosen lol. I'd love to see the Mass Effect universe grow and pump out a few more games before it becomes a memory, but I'm glad the Shepard story came to an end, regardless of how unsatisfying the original ending was haha. The biggest problem with the ending is that everyone got so attached to the trilogy, and to Shepard. With the amount of character customization and RP elements available in the game, you start to associate with Shepard, and because of that, I can totally understand how you would start formulating ideas of how you would want your personal Shepards story to end. However, the story, is still linear and was not written by you, the gamer. I'm totally just ranting at this point. I'm just working and terribly bored because I sit in front of a bunch of monitors and stare at them all day, so ranting slightly helps pass the time. I will stop now. Just to clarify, totally not ranting at you Mr. Spartan248. Just in general lol.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

False advertising? Such as?


The endings. I enjoyed them, for my part, but there's no denying the promise, the advertised statements was "there won't be abc endings", when abc endings was exactly what happened. It was done about as diplomatically as they could without making seperate freaking games for varied endings, but that doesn't absolve this blatant untruth.

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It's really, really good!

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daftPirate wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

False advertising? Such as?


The endings. I enjoyed them, for my part, but there's no denying the promise, the advertised statements was "there won't be abc endings", when abc endings was exactly what happened. It was done about as diplomatically as they could without making seperate freaking games for varied endings, but that doesn't absolve this blatant untruth.

It wasn't a case of ABC endings. There are 7 different endings even without EC, depending on your choices throughout the trilogy in the form of war assets. True, the differences are minimal and sometimes barely noticable, but they are there. The thing is, when BioWare said "there won't be ABC endings", you expected more than what you got, but that's entirely your fault. BioWare told the truth, but a lot of people interpreted it in their own way.

It's amazing how so many people don't realize this.

EDIT: It's a classic advertising trick, giving vague info and letting people to make of it whatever they want or hope for in their heads. But it's not lying.

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 23 mars 2013 - 12:02 .


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That is 100% perspective. I've seen the video, and am aware of the subtle differences. That doesn't, in my opinion, satisfy the criteria of a 'different ending'. Like I said, my expectations were met; in fact I didn't know about the abc quote til I'd already finished the game. Saying these tiny cinematic differences are different endings is what I'd call a cop out.

edit: It isn't any better to call it a trick instead of a lie. Deciet is deceit is deceit.

Modifié par daftPirate, 23 mars 2013 - 12:07 .


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daftPirate wrote...

That is 100% perspective. I've seen the video, and am aware of the subtle differences. That doesn't, in my opinion, satisfy the criteria of a 'different ending'. Like I said, my expectations were met; in fact I didn't know about the abc quote til I'd already finished the game. Saying these tiny cinematic differences are different endings is what I'd call a cop out.

edit: It isn't any better to call it a trick instead of a lie. Deciet is deceit is deceit.

Very wrong and naive way of thinking. I'm really sorry if I'm being offensive, but it's the truth.

As small as the differences are, they are still differences. That's not a matter of opinion, that's a fact. If I'm 180 cm tall and you are 181 cm tall, we are of very similar, but still different height.

The endings depend on more than your last choice, so tehnically they are not ABC endings. That's just another fact.

BioWare said 100% truth, people are the ones who expanded on it and chose to make false assumptions. Like saying that Omega is their biggest ME3 DLC yet. It can mean many things, including just the disc size. But people tend to blow it out of porportions and think that it's 8+ hours long or something. Again, not BioWare's fault.

There was no lying, no decieving. It was just vague information, a very often used marketing trick in the world today.

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Well, you are exactly right, technically. But when things have to be justified with 'tecnically', they lose their spirit. While I see what you're getting at, I don't think it's naivety. Naive is expecting vastly different endings, the sort of thing that really would have required another game or two or three. Cynical, which, if you don't mind, I'd label yourself, is expecting/realizing that that is beyond the scope of Bioware's ability, or like you said Omega being the largest DLC at its release was just as likely in its file size as actual content.

I like to think I walk the middle ground. Accepting that the likelihood of the hugely varied endings everyone imagined was small, but rejecting a PR justification claiming that ABC endings are not what was delivered.

You can't use the word trick without there being deception. It's just implicit.

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Finally, all round well made DLC from audio tracks to story. And Sheppard is more human like this time.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

That is 100% perspective. I've seen the video, and am aware of the subtle differences. That doesn't, in my opinion, satisfy the criteria of a 'different ending'. Like I said, my expectations were met; in fact I didn't know about the abc quote til I'd already finished the game. Saying these tiny cinematic differences are different endings is what I'd call a cop out.

edit: It isn't any better to call it a trick instead of a lie. Deciet is deceit is deceit.

Very wrong and naive way of thinking. I'm really sorry if I'm being offensive, but it's the truth.

As small as the differences are, they are still differences. That's not a matter of opinion, that's a fact. If I'm 180 cm tall and you are 181 cm tall, we are of very similar, but still different height.

The endings depend on more than your last choice, so tehnically they are not ABC endings. That's just another fact.

BioWare said 100% truth, people are the ones who expanded on it and chose to make false assumptions. Like saying that Omega is their biggest ME3 DLC yet. It can mean many things, including just the disc size. But people tend to blow it out of porportions and think that it's 8+ hours long or something. Again, not BioWare's fault.

There was no lying, no decieving. It was just vague information, a very often used marketing trick in the world today.


The endings were not A, B, C, but they were Destroy, Control, Synthesis. Don't you see the similarity?

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Loaderini wrote...

The endings were not A, B, C, but they were Destroy, Control, Synthesis. Don't you see the similarity?

Not each of those is available without high enough EMS, and when they available there are different variations of them. First, there are different impacts of the blast (state of Earth and state of Normandy crew), depending on your entire playthrough, not just the final choice as ABC thing would imply. And with EC, each of those endings have several versions of the epilogue that show the consequences of your decisions. All together, there is a fair number of different endings, even though some of them are very similar.

So, no I don't see any similarity with typical ABC endings.

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

Loaderini wrote...

The endings were not A, B, C, but they were Destroy, Control, Synthesis. Don't you see the similarity?

Not each of those is available without high enough EMS, and when they available there are different variations of them. First, there are different impacts of the blast (state of Earth and state of Normandy crew), depending on your entire playthrough, not just the final choice as ABC thing would imply. And with EC, each of those endings have several versions of the epilogue that show the consequences of your decisions. All together, there is a fair number of different endings, even though some of them are very similar.

So, no I don't see any similarity with typical ABC endings.


Saving Big Ben is not my idea of a high EMS destroy ending.

Anyway, ranting about the endings is not going to change anything anymore.  All we can do now is create our own with what we have. PC gamers have MEHEM, I have the Citadel.