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Yes, I know Yahtzee well, and appreciate his style. :P
Point is, there's wisdom in that picture. Sure it's not litteral, but look at some of the games that get hyped, and hype, then are terrible?
It applies to DLC, too.

Yeah, you're right, we don't get what we want. Still I can't see getting one DLC female soldier as unreasonable though. It's baffling. 've asked for one for months. I was civil, I tried the crazy approach, I tried the emotional/passionate approach. I'unno. Still trying to wrap my head around why there were never any. 

Yes, I know Weapon platforms use consumeables, too. I fully expect it in gold and up really. But while I'm catching up to their damage/durability/etc., they're going that much ahead of me thanks to consumeables.
Are you trying to tell me that a destroyer, TSOL, or GI can't use warp rounds, and pummel a biotically primed target and enjoy the best of both worlds? They may not be able to prime, but they sure can take advantage of it, and amplify their damage output, no?

I was rooting for the female quarian sentinel idea, too. A lot of good ideas just aren't going to make it, it seems.

And please don't boil down my loss of faith to that. It's not that simple.
Just over one character? No. Not even remotely just one character, but the lack of female soldiers in DLC certainly planted a big red flag. I expected better.
There's so many reasons that I don't feel the same about Bioware as I used to. MP sprinkled a lot of straws on the camel's back, but no one straw broke the back.
SP did very little to dissuade me from the series amazingly, but it's hard to go back to it like I can in MP.

The same practices that annoy me have pretty much driven away my partner from the game which was a double whammy. She wants a lot of what I want to do. Variety, hitting like a semi-truck instead of a slow poison. Heavy weapons use, durability to be a bit reckless with. Putting up with everything just to get to this point was too much, so she quit for greener pastures. I dunno if she'll wanna come back for this DLC.

It's the alienation that's killing things, honestly.

Unbeliveable. Just freaking unbeliveable, this conviction that the entire world OWES you something.

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avenging_teabag wrote...

Yes, I know Yahtzee well, and appreciate his style. :P
Point is, there's wisdom in that picture. Sure it's not litteral, but look at some of the games that get hyped, and hype, then are terrible?
It applies to DLC, too.

Yeah, you're right, we don't get what we want. Still I can't see getting one DLC female soldier as unreasonable though. It's baffling. 've asked for one for months. I was civil, I tried the crazy approach, I tried the emotional/passionate approach. I'unno. Still trying to wrap my head around why there were never any. 

Yes, I know Weapon platforms use consumeables, too. I fully expect it in gold and up really. But while I'm catching up to their damage/durability/etc., they're going that much ahead of me thanks to consumeables.
Are you trying to tell me that a destroyer, TSOL, or GI can't use warp rounds, and pummel a biotically primed target and enjoy the best of both worlds? They may not be able to prime, but they sure can take advantage of it, and amplify their damage output, no?

I was rooting for the female quarian sentinel idea, too. A lot of good ideas just aren't going to make it, it seems.

And please don't boil down my loss of faith to that. It's not that simple.
Just over one character? No. Not even remotely just one character, but the lack of female soldiers in DLC certainly planted a big red flag. I expected better.
There's so many reasons that I don't feel the same about Bioware as I used to. MP sprinkled a lot of straws on the camel's back, but no one straw broke the back.
SP did very little to dissuade me from the series amazingly, but it's hard to go back to it like I can in MP.

The same practices that annoy me have pretty much driven away my partner from the game which was a double whammy. She wants a lot of what I want to do. Variety, hitting like a semi-truck instead of a slow poison. Heavy weapons use, durability to be a bit reckless with. Putting up with everything just to get to this point was too much, so she quit for greener pastures. I dunno if she'll wanna come back for this DLC.

It's the alienation that's killing things, honestly.

Unbeliveable. Just freaking unbeliveable, this conviction that the entire world OWES you something.


That's what we call a Feminist.

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Stardusk wrote...
That's what we call a Feminist.

You wish it was that simple.
I'm wondering if you know the meaning of the word, or how to diffirentiate between a feminist that thinks every male is out to get them, and they should be on top with someone who wants something and isn't trying to be on top.

What? I, personally can't, be selfish now and then in wanting something?

Think that I care what the genders are of the people that make these, or any characters are?
That I think it's some male-o-centric maleocracy that's oppressing the female roster?

You don't have to be a feminist to be self entitled.

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I never said you should be hyped. I merely said to wait until you have all the facts and have actually played the thing before being unhappy with it.

As Joe said, at this point it's not BioWare. At the end of the day it really does boil down to you losing faith in BioWare because they've not given you exactly what you wanted. It might have been 5 times over the course of a full year, but that is what has caused it.

What I'm saying with the Warp Rounds is that a Turian Soldier can't prime a target. You aren't exactly always going to be able to follow around a biotic and get them to prime your targets. It's infinitely more reliably for a biotic to use it, and thus a better damage increase for them.

I get the sense that getting another female Soldier and a female tank are about the only thing that matters to you to the point where not getting them is making you disappointed in the developer.

It is entirely up to you to choose what you want from a game, but I would suggest that not everything needs to be about getting a tough female character. If you let something like that get in the way of your enjoyment of what would otherwise be a great game, then I suspect you will be disappointed in most of the industry.

You don't need to give up asking for things like this, but if you don't get it then it shouldn't be the end of the world, either. The reasoning as to why they didn't do it doesn't really matter, and probably wouldn't have been to your liking anyway.


On the same token, I'm waiting until I've played it before being happy with the power sets, and classes. This set is supposed to have the most new powers ever which is staggering to me if they're actually including Earth DLC in that statement.
There's too many unknowns for me to be more than neutral about it, and I'd rather be negative so I can be wrong about it and be happy about being wrong. :P
It sure beats being positive, and being let down badly.

And yes, it's on me. It's me I'm speaking for. I'm not speaking for anyone that hasn't given me their views on it. I'm not saying the community feels this way.
I see it's me that has the problems, and I don't need it pointed out. Thing is it doesn't matter.

As for a Tsol, or anyone that's nonbiotic, you don't really have to follow a biotic around unless there's only one biotic in the group. If there's one turian soldier, and 3 asari, warp rounds would be a safe bet to get a lot of mileage. Odds are most everything you'll shoot at is primed, or doesn't matter if it's primed or not.

Getting a female Soldier, and a female tank would make me feel better, yes. I'd not have to worry about it, or keep asking for them. They are my biggest wants right now as far as characters go.
I'm willing to wait to see where the female turian lands in tankiness before I solidly judge the character aside from a snap judgement and educated guesses.
The Female Turian might be the tank I'm wanting. She might not be, though.
Heck, the Vanguard could have biotic charge, and a weapons power creating some wild hybrid vanguard/Soldier that's durable, and can fire weapons with higher than average potentcy. Could kill 2 birds with one stone! ... No pun intended. Turians... Birds... Yeah.
I'm just not going to expect her to be up to my standards. Something could go wrong. Frankly I don't know what to expect. I'm neutral on her.

Not getting a female soldier being the cause of my dissapointment? No. Solidly no. That's just a part of my dissapointment.
A sausage fest DLC (Rebellion), DLCs with 16 characters with 2 women who're asari that look identicle to the two we started with (Retaliation), and a lack of variety in powers/power mechanics/shields/barriers/health among the female roster are also dissapointments. A general lack of variety is the dissapointment.
Rebellion is what brought me here, and is probably the root if anything. That DLC shook my views of bioware's path in Mass Effect's Multiplayer to the core, and made me worry. What happened after that DLC was more salt in the wound.
The reason I cling to the idea of a female soldier, and tanky female in DLC is that odds are good that it'd finish off my gripes.
I mean we got a female Sentinel. I'm not pushing for another female sentinel. I don't fully agree with the Valkyrie's design, but I asked for a sentinel, and there she is. She's a grand character. Not exactly what I wanted, but better than never getting one at all.

And yes, my dissapointment in the gaming industry in general is a large large large can of worms I'd rather not open. The dissapointment might loosen it's grip in the future, though. I'd say this year will be a good year to help with the dissapointment. It's starting off in a way I could almost get optimistic over. :P

Not getting my way won't be the end all and be all that makes me walk away from a game series I still love.
Even though I don't like where it's been, or where it may well be going, I'm not giving up.
If I didn't love the series I wouldn't be here, and I wouldn't be pushing for something I've pushed for on the forums since rebellion came out.
I figure if I didn't care, I would've been gone long ago having given up by Earth. Then again Earth really was a spectacular DLC.

Their reasons for not creating a female soldier over the course of 5 DLCs probably wouldn't satisfly me, but they might. I won't know until I hear the reason(s). :P I don't expect them to give them though. They've got better things to do with their time, and possibly legal worries, PR problems, coupled with it. I dunno. Better silent, and safe.
I might be biased against the reasons as I've yet to hear a good reason for excluding women from a series I want to see them playable in, but that doesn't stop me from accepting a good reason. :P

I'm probably not going to ask anymore though. This is the last DLC after all. Asking likely won't help, and I doubt it'll influence ME4.
Will I still be dissapointed though? You bet. lol
Will I say as much? Probably.

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

He makes sense sometimes. You get hyped you set yourself for being let down. :P

Yes, I pick apart your suggestions because they aren't what I'm craving, wanting, or needing. They just aren't. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades as the saying goes. 
I respect your opinions, and what you say is right, but you're trying to sell me something that doesn't fit the bill, so it's just not going to work. I'm tired of settling while non-female units just don't have to.
Everything is so situational with the suggestions. I don't want astericts next to boasts about durability, damage output, etc. coz they only work in certain situations.

I gotta push for more since Bioware seems hard pressed to deliver. DLC Female Soldier. Why is that so elusive? You don't have to answer. :P

I know we need/should use consumeables, but bringing consumeables to catch up means those same consumeables can take someone that much farther. That's not helping anything.

As far as Female Turians, I'm glad we're getting them. I really am! I'm not complaining about them, themselves. It really is a victory that they're included! And a Gynoid who could have an excuse to be armored/durable, too!
I just worry about their mechanics since the female turian's said to be a vanguard. Bioware stumbled before. They may stumble again.
Honestly, I play off host a lot while my partner hosts. Vanguards aren't too off host friendly, but damned if I won't try and make it work if she's not mysteriously squishy/bugged, or something like that. Maybe even then! If I like a unit, I'll use her. Simple as that.

And then another female infiltrator. Augh. Don't we have enough of them? Can't they be utilized elsewhere? I just hope that the gynoid has some powers that make her something that stands out among the other infiltrators like the huntress, and shadow have.

Again don't get me wrong! I like who we have, and they are good units, but my point about their similarities tends to stand. Most rely on DoT damage, don't have fast acting enemy melting powers (I.E. Flamer), don't supply their gun with immense firepower for long (Something that isn't tactical cloak. Yes, we have AR, but I want another power on another character. Variety! <.<), so on. I've said it all before, though not likely all at once. It's not going to change until Bioware delivers.

I can't help being overly pessimistic about this. I had my faith in Bioware shattered. They wandered a long way from where I thought they were 9 months ago. 
It's not something that'll get pieced back together easily, and, well, this seems like Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer's last go at it. Will it happen? I can't say it's likely, but I won't say it's impossible either.
Someone has to be negative about this DLC anyhow. :P

Re: Yahtzee... Surely pleasantly surprised would be, "They probably won't add female characters, they probably won't add female characters - oh my god, forty per cent of the announced characters are female, minor victory!" I'd have thought, "where's my female soldier, where's my female soldier - oh my god, where the hell's my female soldier?" is exactly the opposite of that?

You (and Cyonan, actually!) are one of the few posters I know by name, and that's entirely due to your campaign to get more female characters in the game. It caught my attention - and after about two days of going, "I play as women, what's the problem?" I kept reading it, kept thinking about it, and you've completely convinced me. Rebellion, in particular - it had no female characters whatsoever, and I hadn't noticed. Shame on me! Think it's a bloody admirable stance you've taken, and you're bloody admirable, too - in the face of screaming, often violent opposition, which has frequently drifting into flagrant sexism, you've kept your cool, held the line, always been firm but polite, and frankly, yes! Why aren't there sturdy female classes? You've been an absolute credit to a frequently toxic board, nothing but respect for you!

But I do think it's a little ungracious to go, "Well, they're not the right kind of female classes." Don't get me wrong, I completely agree, it'd be ace to have another female soldier - there's just the vanilla human, what's the deal?! - but we've at least got what appears to be a lady infiltrator and a chargeless vanguard. That's a dedicated weapons platform (infiltrators' powers are geared to maxing weapons damage) and a kroganesque biotic tank. (And again, if this is anything like the other turians, it'll be one with insane weapon bonuses!) That's a pretty good haul, I'd have said.

Cos classes that are absolutely not power classes in any respect are few and far between. As I said, I can only think of three characters who can leave multiple powers on and sprint around weaponning it up. To clarify, those are the N7 Destroyer, the geth trooper, and the asari sentinel. That's a 1:1:1 gender split - that's actually really, really good! All three can get away with -200% cooldowns - and I know, because that's how I play all three of them. I'm trying to think of another character that can get away with a -200% cooldown, and the first one that's come to mind the N7 Demolisher. So that's one man, one gender-neutral AI, and two women. Women, actually, are slightly ahead on this, by my mental count - could be missing someone out, though.

Very few people are going to get the exact class they dreamed of.  I really want a salarian sentinel with biotic sphere, snap freeze and tech armor. It's probably not going to happen. But you say, "You're trying to sell me something that doesn't fit the bill, so it's just not going to work. I'm tired of settling while non-female units just don't have to." First off, I don't think that's true, going by the ratio of cast-and-forget classes, but I think you've got such a specific image of what you want, that you've built a very small pair of goalposts in, as I've said, exactly the way Yahtzee advised against. They've announced two visually female characters, two visually male characters, and a visually neuter character. That was a punch the air moment, for me - and if it weren't for your fantastic posts, I probably wouldn't have ever noticed!  I guess I'm just surprised you're not more jubilant is all.

Apologies if I'm coming across as a bit of a dick - by all means, call me out. I'm just... a tad bewildered. I've agreed with a lot of your posts over the last year, and I think you generally talk a lot of sense, but I'm struggling to find a way to agree with you on this one. It looks a bit like you're moving the goalposts from where I'm stood. Sorry! D:

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I wonder if that female turian vanguard will have the havoc strike as a biotic charge the way it was intended to be used from the jumpoff....if true, that will be sweet!!

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Clips7 wrote...

I wonder if that female turian vanguard will have the havoc strike as a biotic charge the way it was intended to be used from the jumpoff....if true, that will be sweet!!

She's supposed to have 3 completely new powers (nothing seen in SP or MP before).

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Constant Motion wrote...
Re: Yahtzee... Surely pleasantly surprised would be, "They probably won't add female characters, they probably won't add female characters - oh my god, forty per cent of the announced characters are female, minor victory!" I'd have thought, "where's my female soldier, where's my female soldier - oh my god, where the hell's my female soldier?" is exactly the opposite of that?

You (and Cyonan, actually!) are one of the few posters I know by name, and that's entirely due to your campaign to get more female characters in the game. It caught my attention - and after about two days of going, "I play as women, what's the problem?" I kept reading it, kept thinking about it, and you've completely convinced me. Rebellion, in particular - it had no female characters whatsoever, and I hadn't noticed. Shame on me! Think it's a bloody admirable stance you've taken, and you're bloody admirable, too - in the face of screaming, often violent opposition, which has frequently drifting into flagrant sexism, you've kept your cool, held the line, always been firm but polite, and frankly, yes! Why aren't there sturdy female classes? You've been an absolute credit to a frequently toxic board, nothing but respect for you!

But I do think it's a little ungracious to go, "Well, they're not the right kind of female classes." Don't get me wrong, I completely agree, it'd be ace to have another female soldier - there's just the vanilla human, what's the deal?! - but we've at least got what appears to be a lady infiltrator and a chargeless vanguard. That's a dedicated weapons platform (infiltrators' powers are geared to maxing weapons damage) and a kroganesque biotic tank. (And again, if this is anything like the other turians, it'll be one with insane weapon bonuses!) That's a pretty good haul, I'd have said.

Cos classes that are absolutely not power classes in any respect are few and far between. As I said, I can only think of three characters who can leave multiple powers on and sprint around weaponning it up. To clarify, those are the N7 Destroyer, the geth trooper, and the asari sentinel. That's a 1:1:1 gender split - that's actually really, really good! All three can get away with -200% cooldowns - and I know, because that's how I play all three of them. I'm trying to think of another character that can get away with a -200% cooldown, and the first one that's come to mind the N7 Demolisher. So that's one man, one gender-neutral AI, and two women. Women, actually, are slightly ahead on this, by my mental count - could be missing someone out, though.

Very few people are going to get the exact class they dreamed of.  I really want a salarian sentinel with biotic sphere, snap freeze and tech armor. It's probably not going to happen. But you say, "You're trying to sell me something that doesn't fit the bill, so it's just not going to work. I'm tired of settling while non-female units just don't have to." First off, I don't think that's true, going by the ratio of cast-and-forget classes, but I think you've got such a specific image of what you want, that you've built a very small pair of goalposts in, as I've said, exactly the way Yahtzee advised against. They've announced two visually female characters, two visually male characters, and a visually neuter character. That was a punch the air moment, for me - and if it weren't for your fantastic posts, I probably wouldn't have ever noticed!  I guess I'm just surprised you're not more jubilant is all.

Apologies if I'm coming across as a bit of a dick - by all means, call me out. I'm just... a tad bewildered. I've agreed with a lot of your posts over the last year, and I think you generally talk a lot of sense, but I'm struggling to find a way to agree with you on this one. It looks a bit like you're moving the goalposts from where I'm stood. Sorry! D:

I'll get it out of the way, and say you're not even remotely being a dick.

My reaction is mixed, honestly.
Female Turian Vanguard? 3 female vanguards! One that's likely going to be pretty durable! Oh the possibilities! Will she have a dodge? A Jet Pack? Will she have the usual Turian health/shields, and bonusees to weapons? So many things that could go -right- on this one! And likely new powers!

Gynoid? An armorey looking Edi? A durable infiltrator maybe considering Eva, and Edi? New powers? Oh, joy!

But it's counterbalanced with "... Figures, there's no new female soldier," and the possiblity that either, or both of the women could be the next Male Quarian Infiltrator, or Asari Huntress, by coming in bugged.
Their powers could be "meh" because I have no idea what they'll be! We could even be getting a cloakless infiltrator, or a chargeless vanguard, or both!
And capping it off is "No female Krogan? Crap."

So the news isn't causing much jubilation because there's too much bad news, and uncertainty.

I get what you're saying about it being ungrateful to shun a character based on class. But from my point of view, it's hard to get enthused over the 5th female infiltrator. We have a ton of female infiltrators. Could the new one possibly add something new to the infiltrator experience?

You have a point in a rarity among those who can have multiple powers active while weaponing it up, but I'm not really able to agree on the valkyrie. AF will stop working on it's own, you'll have to turn it back on, and with heavy weapon(s) it could be problematic. AF also has limited range. It's useless vs anything outside that range unless you take the speed bonus. Destroyer missile launcher, and both Geth soldier powers are essentially good at all ranges coz they're either self buffs or have long range.
It's not so much the fact that powers are toggle/long lasting, but what they -do- that matters to me, too. To hit hard the Valkyrie relies on debuffs, one of which can be dodged, the other having a very finite range. The other two characters you mention don't.

Unless you camp, something Bioware doesn't seem to like, Demolisher doesn't really get benefits since she's not always in her pylon's range. Sure she can carry any weapons, but she doesn't exactly offer those weapons any buffs unless she's within the range of her pylon.

I'm not saying it has to be the exact class I want. I'm not even being specefic about the powers of the soldier, or even the race, really. I'm just asking for a soldier, and trusting Bioware to make one that doesn't have a poor power kit.

My goalposts are small, but the way you get the ball there is not written in stone.
Durable female? As stated before, the female turian just might be the cure. So long as she's durable enough to be somewhat reckless with, all is well, I suppose. She won't be krogard tough, but could she be a good second place?
Could she have enough weapon passives, or even a weapon power that'll make her a double threat?
If she blends soldier weapon focus with vanguard toughness, mission accomplished in my book for soldier, and tough female. I'm likely to be happy.
Of course I doubt that'll happen, but hey, one never knows.

I wanna be clear. My goal posts haven't moved. I've been pushing for a DLC female soldier since Retalliation.  That's always been a part of my goal, but not my entire goal.

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Stardusk wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Yes, I know Yahtzee well, and appreciate his style. :P
Point is, there's wisdom in that picture. Sure it's not litteral, but look at some of the games that get hyped, and hype, then are terrible?
It applies to DLC, too.

Yeah, you're right, we don't get what we want. Still I can't see getting one DLC female soldier as unreasonable though. It's baffling. 've asked for one for months. I was civil, I tried the crazy approach, I tried the emotional/passionate approach. I'unno. Still trying to wrap my head around why there were never any. 

Yes, I know Weapon platforms use consumeables, too. I fully expect it in gold and up really. But while I'm catching up to their damage/durability/etc., they're going that much ahead of me thanks to consumeables.
Are you trying to tell me that a destroyer, TSOL, or GI can't use warp rounds, and pummel a biotically primed target and enjoy the best of both worlds? They may not be able to prime, but they sure can take advantage of it, and amplify their damage output, no?

I was rooting for the female quarian sentinel idea, too. A lot of good ideas just aren't going to make it, it seems.

And please don't boil down my loss of faith to that. It's not that simple.
Just over one character? No. Not even remotely just one character, but the lack of female soldiers in DLC certainly planted a big red flag. I expected better.
There's so many reasons that I don't feel the same about Bioware as I used to. MP sprinkled a lot of straws on the camel's back, but no one straw broke the back.
SP did very little to dissuade me from the series amazingly, but it's hard to go back to it like I can in MP.

The same practices that annoy me have pretty much driven away my partner from the game which was a double whammy. She wants a lot of what I want to do. Variety, hitting like a semi-truck instead of a slow poison. Heavy weapons use, durability to be a bit reckless with. Putting up with everything just to get to this point was too much, so she quit for greener pastures. I dunno if she'll wanna come back for this DLC.

It's the alienation that's killing things, honestly.

Unbeliveable. Just freaking unbeliveable, this conviction that the entire world OWES you something.


That's what we call a Feminist.

I lol'd pretty hard 

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Javo2357 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

avenging_teabag wrote...

Yes, I know Yahtzee well, and appreciate his style. :P
Point is, there's wisdom in that picture. Sure it's not litteral, but look at some of the games that get hyped, and hype, then are terrible?
It applies to DLC, too.

Yeah, you're right, we don't get what we want. Still I can't see getting one DLC female soldier as unreasonable though. It's baffling. 've asked for one for months. I was civil, I tried the crazy approach, I tried the emotional/passionate approach. I'unno. Still trying to wrap my head around why there were never any. 

Yes, I know Weapon platforms use consumeables, too. I fully expect it in gold and up really. But while I'm catching up to their damage/durability/etc., they're going that much ahead of me thanks to consumeables.
Are you trying to tell me that a destroyer, TSOL, or GI can't use warp rounds, and pummel a biotically primed target and enjoy the best of both worlds? They may not be able to prime, but they sure can take advantage of it, and amplify their damage output, no?

I was rooting for the female quarian sentinel idea, too. A lot of good ideas just aren't going to make it, it seems.

And please don't boil down my loss of faith to that. It's not that simple.
Just over one character? No. Not even remotely just one character, but the lack of female soldiers in DLC certainly planted a big red flag. I expected better.
There's so many reasons that I don't feel the same about Bioware as I used to. MP sprinkled a lot of straws on the camel's back, but no one straw broke the back.
SP did very little to dissuade me from the series amazingly, but it's hard to go back to it like I can in MP.

The same practices that annoy me have pretty much driven away my partner from the game which was a double whammy. She wants a lot of what I want to do. Variety, hitting like a semi-truck instead of a slow poison. Heavy weapons use, durability to be a bit reckless with. Putting up with everything just to get to this point was too much, so she quit for greener pastures. I dunno if she'll wanna come back for this DLC.

It's the alienation that's killing things, honestly.

Unbeliveable. Just freaking unbeliveable, this conviction that the entire world OWES you something.


That's what we call a Feminist.

I lol'd pretty hard 


Well, there is a distinctiom between a captical F-Feminst one and a lower case F one. Rebel Raven is a text book capital F one.

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Zkyire

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The JoeMan wrote...

Really Raven.  At some point you're going to have to admit that it's not them, it's you.  Bioware has bent over backwards to be as inclusionary as possible to female gamers throughout the Mass Effect series and especially so in ME3.  Yet here you still stand, pointing fingers and calling sexism at every turn.  In this case because there is no female destroyer type soldier.  There is an ample supply of female characters to choose from and more are getting added on Tuesday.  I'm sorry that you haven't been able to find ANY that you like but this is getting really old.


No kidding.

The vast majority of FPS and TPS games consist of almost entirely male characters.

Bioware are going out of their way to cater to the female players, yet you keep wanting more and more. Constantly complaining that it's never enough no matter how much they add.

You want to play a Destroyer-like character? THEN PLAY THE DESTROYER. Does it really matter if the character has pixel breasts or not? Will it play any differently?

This is entirely about you wanting more women.. just because. There's no actual reason behind it. Just because.