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[TheProtheans]

Jadebaby wrote...


So I think people are overreacting about the next dlc. Yes they didn't come out and say "ending dlc".. But it *is* the fabled Citadel dlc and their is a lot of downtime R&R involved.

So are people overlooking the "conspiracy" that's targeting Shepard?

But are people just overreacting too soon?

No, you're still on the hype train.

[Steelcan]

Michael Bay isn't exactly a master story teller.

[Jadebaby]

Steelcan wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

So what you have is more romance so they can get separated at the end? Exactly what everyone wanted! I love Bioware, they always know how to twist the dagger.

Dunno if you heard, but Shepard survives Destroy, if you're willing to accept that.

Prove it. The breath scene does not prove they survived the event. The best analogy I can come up with is that Shepard climbed Mount Everest. Just because they are still alive at the peak, doesn't mean they have survived the challenge.

. Can you name a work of fiction where so e one dies after inhaling?

I don't have too, the way the scene left me feeling speaks for itself. What they should have done was shown the breath scene but have them in a hospital bed or something, it's stupid. And I'm an optimist.

It comes back to suspension of disbelief. I suspended it for the magic elevator, I suspended it for the Catalyst and all his bs. I suspended it for the magic "you die" ray that shoots out in Destroy. I can't suspend it again for Shepard to have survived all the trauma they endured in the final 30 minutes.

Yes, they took a breath, but that only indicates they are alive. Doesn't mean they survive. They are still vunerable to all kinds of exposure and are completely alone in an area of the Citadel no one has ever been before. Odds don't look good to me.

Remember that Shepard could barely walk before being blown up in Destroy. Do you really think that they could now suddenly pull themselves up and walk away?

[Jadebaby]

krukow wrote...

The video file is called "Shepard_Alive" you retard.

No ****, because generally speaking, you have to be alive to take a breath. But that still doesn't mean they survived.

Way to miss the point completely. The irony of your insult should be burning about now.

Turning to game files is stupid in the first place.

[Steelcan]

Yep. It defies all reason and logic, but I don't think he's dead.

[DeinonSlayer]

Jadebaby wrote...

I don't have too, the way the scene left me feeling speaks for itself. What they should have done was shown the breath scene but have them in a hospital bed or something, it's stupid. And I'm an optimist.

It comes back to suspension of disbelief. I suspended it for the magic elevator, I suspended it for the Catalyst and all his bs. I suspended it for the magic "you die" ray that shoots out in Destroy. I can't suspend it again for Shepard to have survived all the trauma they endured in the final 30 minutes.

Yes, they took a breath, but that only indicates they are alive. Doesn't mean they survive. They are still vunerable to all kinds of exposure and are completely alone in an area of the Citadel no one has ever been before. Odds don't look good to me.

Remember that Shepard could barely walk before being blown up in Destroy. Do you really think that they could now suddenly pull themselves up and walk away?

This same Shepard still has the energy to sprint in the Synthesis ending. Shepard's location isn't a big secret. You were at the base of the Presidium Tower, where the Crucible docked. Everything after shooting the tube is headcanon. I say Bailey went to the tower to try to open the arms, wasn't able to do so, but was able to lock in on Shepard's omnitool transponder. That would put medical assistance mere minutes away.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 21 février 2013 - 11:14 .

[DetcelferVisionary]

YO DAWG! I heard you wanted a home on the citadel, so I'll give it to you pre-ending so I can blow it up later. BWHAHAhahaaaaa

[Jadebaby]

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

YO DAWG! I heard you wanted a home on the citadel, so I'll give it to you pre-ending so I can blow it up later. BWHAHAhahaaaaa

i loled.

[Cobretti ftw]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

So what you have is more romance so they can get separated at the end? Exactly what everyone wanted! I love Bioware, they always know how to twist the dagger.

Dunno if you heard, but Shepard survives Destroy, if you're willing to accept that.

Prove it. The breath scene does not prove they survived the event. The best analogy I can come up with is that Shepard climbed Mount Everest. Just because they are still alive at the peak, doesn't mean they have survived the challenge.

. Can you name a work of fiction where so e one dies after inhaling?

"The Rock" with Nicholas Cage, Ed Harris and Sean Connery. 

hahaha lol OWNED

Modifié par Cobretti ftw, 21 février 2013 - 11:18 .

[CronoDragoon]

Jadebaby wrote...

Remember that Shepard could barely walk before being blown up in Destroy. Do you really think that they could now suddenly pull themselves up and walk away?

You can't argue this logic, guys. Shepard is absolutely, unequivocally dead, and I'm sure Jade would agree that it would therefore be stupid to have something like a reunion scene or post-ending DLC.

[Cobretti ftw]

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

YO DAWG! I heard you wanted a home on the citadel, so I'll give it to you pre-ending so I can blow it up later. BWHAHAhahaaaaa

LMAO

[krukow]

Jadebaby wrote...

krukow wrote...

The video file is called "Shepard_Alive" you retard.

No ****, because generally speaking, you have to be alive to take a breath. But that still doesn't mean they survived.

Way to miss the point completely. The irony of your insult should be burning about now.

Turning to game files is stupid in the first place.

Yes it does. Scenes are shown for a reason. The writers are giving you new information. They are telling you something. It wasn't random. The narrative point of that scene was that Shepard survived the ending. He's still alive. That's why the scene was shown.

However, you completely missed the point, so I go to the filename to demonstrate the intent of the scene. Not my interpretation, the actual intent. It is stupid that I have to do this, but then again, so are you. So I guess it's fitting...

[F4H bandicoot]

Steelcan wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

So what you have is more romance so they can get separated at the end? Exactly what everyone wanted! I love Bioware, they always know how to twist the dagger.

Dunno if you heard, but Shepard survives Destroy, if you're willing to accept that.

Prove it. The breath scene does not prove they survived the event. The best analogy I can come up with is that Shepard climbed Mount Everest. Just because they are still alive at the peak, doesn't mean they have survived the challenge.

. Can you name a work of fiction where so e one dies after inhaling?

The Grey with Liam Neeson IIRC

[DetcelferVisionary]

krukow wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

krukow wrote...

The video file is called "Shepard_Alive" you retard.

No ****, because generally speaking, you have to be alive to take a breath. But that still doesn't mean they survived.

Way to miss the point completely. The irony of your insult should be burning about now.

Turning to game files is stupid in the first place.

Yes it does. Scenes are shown for a reason. The writers are giving you new information. They are telling you something. It wasn't random. The narrative point of that scene was that Shepard survived the ending. He's still alive. That's why the scene was shown.

However, you completely missed the point, so I go to the filename to demonstrate the intent of the scene. Not my interpretation, the actual intent. It is stupid that I have to do this, but then again, so are you. So I guess it's fitting...

Him taking a breath of air creates no substance to anything.   I think thats the problem many people have with it.  It doesnt all together turn me off,  and I wish they did more - but I can live with it.   Is it a great way to wrap up?   Absolutely not.   Is it acceptable...  regrettably yes.   Everything else about that ending to me is dandy after you factor in leviathan and the EC.

[Jadebaby]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

Remember that Shepard could barely walk before being blown up in Destroy. Do you really think that they could now suddenly pull themselves up and walk away?

You can't argue this logic, guys. Shepard is absolutely, unequivocally dead, and I'm sure Jade would agree that it would therefore be stupid to have something like a reunion scene or post-ending DLC.

Yes, I agree.

[MegaSovereign]

Jade, isn't the burden of proof on your back since you are claiming that Shepard died off-screen?

[Jadebaby]

krukow wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

krukow wrote...

The video file is called "Shepard_Alive" you retard.

No ****, because generally speaking, you have to be alive to take a breath. But that still doesn't mean they survived.

Way to miss the point completely. The irony of your insult should be burning about now.

Turning to game files is stupid in the first place.

Yes it does. Scenes are shown for a reason. The writers are giving you new information. They are telling you something. It wasn't random. The narrative point of that scene was that Shepard survived the ending. He's still alive. That's why the scene was shown.

However, you completely missed the point, so I go to the filename to demonstrate the intent of the scene. Not my interpretation, the actual intent. It is stupid that I have to do this, but then again, so are you. So I guess it's fitting...

The only thing that scene showed me was that Shepard survived the explosion, does that mean they survive to live on and have blue babies? NO.

As my favourite ME parody ending video says "and if you did enough you might even live for a few excruciating more seconds." It's so true. That's exactly how I felt on my first playthrough.

Their intent in the scene is completely irrelevant to the way the scene makes you feel. If I'm left feeling this way then their intent failed, and I refuse to accept the scene simply based on what their intentions were.

The first Scream movie was meant to be a comedy. So says the Director even, do people laugh at it because that was the director's intention?

The fact you have to even turn to insults says enough about the kind of person you are.

[Jadebaby]

The-Biotic-God wrote...

Jade, isn't the burden of proof on your back since you are claiming that Shepard died off-screen?

But the claim isn't baseless, it's based off of the preceeding scenes which lead me to that belief. The breath scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. BioWare's should have stuck to their guns and killed Shepard in every ending like they were planning too. As a result, we have another lackluster ending scene.

[MegaSovereign]

Jadebaby wrote...

The-Biotic-God wrote...

Jade, isn't the burden of proof on your back since you are claiming that Shepard died off-screen?

But the claim isn't baseless, it's based off of the preceeding scenes which lead me to that belief. The breath scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. BioWare's should have stuck to their guns and killed Shepard in every ending like they were planning too. As a result, we have another lackluster ending scene.

If Shepard got up from the rubble it wouldn't have made the scene any less unrealistic by your standard.

And according to you Bioware are sticking to their guns since you believe that Shepard died.

[Untold]

Jadebaby wrote...

Prove it. The breath scene does not
prove they survived the event. The best analogy I can come up with is
that Shepard climbed Mount Everest. Just because they are still alive at
the peak, doesn't mean they have survived the challenge.

DeinonSlayer wrote...
"The Rock" with Nicholas Cage, Ed Harris and Sean Connery. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

Actually, I think that was more of a gargling death rather than an inhale. lol Unless you mean that poor sap at the beginning.

Modifié par Untold, 22 février 2013 - 12:12 .

[inversevideo]

The-Biotic-God wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

The-Biotic-God wrote...

Jade, isn't the burden of proof on your back since you are claiming that Shepard died off-screen?

But the claim isn't baseless, it's based off of the preceeding scenes which lead me to that belief. The breath scene shouldn't have happened in the first place. BioWare's should have stuck to their guns and killed Shepard in every ending like they were planning too. As a result, we have another lackluster ending scene.

If Shepard got up from the rubble it wouldn't have made the scene any less unrealistic by your standard.

And according to you Bioware are sticking to their guns since you believe that Shepard died.

With much respect Vol-clan, what we have know is a cliff hanger, where our plucky heroine is left in dire straits.
No one is looking for Shepard. She will die, if not from her wounds then from starvation.  

Having Shepard get up is better, it harkens back to ME1 with Shepard emerging triuphantly from the rubble. That ending would have given the finale a different 'tone'.

But, it is what it is. Water under the bridge. 

[crimzontearz]

we can only wait

[inversevideo]

Oh, and might I add, there is no reason to insult Jade.
You may not agree with her but she has always remained classy in her discussions.

I would argue that of all the theories put forth, her Puzzle Theory turned out to be the most accurate.

While nothing changes the endings, each DLC, even the EC, has added a new piece to the ME saga. We learned about Leviathan. We took back Omega. We will soon learn a bit more about the Citadel and it's politics.

So cut the lady some slack. Cut each other some slack and bring the name calling and vitriol to an end. Let's enjoy the coming DLC and celebrate the end of this decades best SF saga.

[EarthboundNess]

DetcelferVisionary wrote...

YO DAWG! I heard you wanted a home on the citadel, so I'll give it to you pre-ending so I can blow it up later. BWHAHAhahaaaaa

Thanks, you have successfully prevented any enjoyment I may have possibly had from that sequence.

[Wayning_Star]

note: Shep doesn't make it up there, Shep is on the ground unconscious. The breath scene in destroy is Shep surviving. That's the perk for choosing destroy. Shepard lives. But, that's it, no get well soon slides.

I don't know why Bioware did it that way, I suppose to leave wiggle room for other choosers?

Beats me, and really I don't need to know.