KiddDaBeauty wrote...
Looking forward to a long list of possibilities that may or may not be mostly overanalysed pieces of far-reaching! ^^ If I've done anything in this thread, it's raise a thousand questions where there really isn't room for many.
Alright, here goes.
So we know the Primeval Thaig predates the First Blight and all other Thaigs themselves. It's 10,000 years old, pointing to Dwarves having existed for eons before the Memories recorded the First Thaig. We also know that the Primeval Thaig is not the only one out there, as the codex tells us of an Orzammar King's order to seal away all records of the PTs that were discovered by a tainted Dwarf's rantings and findings. Logistically, no Dwarf would be able to travel from Orzammar to Kirkwall and back again and survive.
We can deduce that the Primeval Thaig we explored is not the only one. This is supported by the lyrium idol's ability to bypass the necessary soul requirement to make Golems -- as seen in DAII -- and the presence of Golems in the Primeval Thaig itself. Why do I mention this? Well, Caridin never says he built the Anvil. He just accredits his rise to Paragon status to the Anvil, and even his journal says that the dreams and visions the Ancestors gave him led him to the Anvil. So we can assume that the Primeval Thaig near Orzammar made use of the Anvil of the Void.
And why call it the Anvil of the Void? The Void is a name given to the abyss that the wicked explore in the Fade upon death. It's the Thedosian equivalent of Hell. Well, if the Dwarves were once Mages -- and the Nexus Golem's comments point to this, what with the "We were once more then we are" line -- perhaps they used the term "Void" for something else. But it could just as easily be a name prescribed to it by today's Dwarves in reference to it being amidst a sea of Darkspawn -- an endless void, if you will.
Now, the age of the Primeval Thaigs would allow the Darkspawn the necessary time to build up their numbers to be able to assault the Deep Roads and Tevinter, which the Chantry's version does not.
It's known that the very first Darkspawn encountered were Genlocks. We know this from Shaper Czibor's account of how the Darkspawn were "beasts in our own image, with no more intelligence then tezpadam" (deepstalkers). This further supports how the PT may have been responsible for the emergence of the Darkspawn.
Then we have the Profane, a name the Rock Wraiths ascribe to themselves. Let's examine the codex on that:
We who are forgotten, remember,
We clawed at rock until our fingers bled,
We cried out for justice, but were unheard.
Our children wept in hunger,
And so we feasted upon the gods.
Here we wait, in aeons of silence.
We few, we profane.—Found scrawled on a wall in the lost Revann Thaig by explorer Faruma Helmi, 5:10 Exalted. Unknown author.
This indicates that the Dwarves were trapped somewhere, crying out for help as they starved and tried to freed themselves. It's possible that the Darkspawn -- when they first emerged -- caused the PT Dwarves to be lost in their own Thaig and unable to flee. They wanted help, they wanted food, they wanted salvation. And so they prayed to the gods.
But the gods would not answer. So they ate the gods. It seems that they ate lyrium, pointing to them worshipping it. This worship is something we'd see Bartrand do and it's implied that Meredith and House Valdasine did the same.
And so, for their crimes and the lack of an answer, they consider themselves to be profane. They are outside the fane (temple), held in contempt by the gods.
And what of the Thaig itself? The Veil there is thin, which happens when there is much death or workings of magic. Or both. And we regularly fight Demons throughout, as opposed to Darkspawn. Again, this points to something weird afoot. We know the Lyrium Idol thins the Veil by its very presence, but is this a trait of all red lyrium everywhere? I do not know.
Whatever the cause of the thin Veil in the PT, we know that it has allowed Demons passage into those forlorn crypts. Such Demons prey upon the needs of the Profane, some even possessing them. The Hunger Demon was drawn to there by way of their desire to feast upon the lyrium. And it seems that their hunger gives him power, else why would he defend them so as if they were his own people?
Now for the lyrium idol itself. It causes madness in those that touch it -- save for plot-protected Hawke and Sandal who's.... out there -- and causes the people to remark upon a "song". Bartrand says he needs to hear it for just a minute. His desire to re-hear it is akin to the Mother's mad desire to hear the Song again. And who sings? The Old Gods/Archdemons. The Stone also sings, as does normal lyrium to Dwarves and Spirits.
And what else does it do? It has a strange whispering noise. Not just any whispering noise, but the same one that you hear when the Darkspawn emerge from the Wilds at Ostagar. The same one you hear when you become a Warden. And the same one you hear when you become a Reaver.
What's the common factor between the Darkspawn, Wardens, and Reavers? Dragons.
Bartrand says that it refers to itself as an idol and wants to be worshipped, and that Meredith will not do this. And he apparently "feeds it". What does he feed it? Lyrium? People?
And as said earlier, it allows those to bypass the need for souls for Golems. If Bartrand was feeding it people, this could account for why. And when it thinned the Veil, it allowed an Ethereal Golem to come through.
And finally -- in the sense that it's the last thing that I can recall, not that it's the last thing to be true -- we have the fact that the Darkspawn actively avoid entering the Primeval Thaigs but will defend it to the death. Curious, no?
And as an aside, Malvernis the Pestilent One carries with him abilities similar to the Darkspawn. He taints, he corrupts, he destroys. And the Dwarves were the ones who found him, bound him, carried him to the surface, and stood vigil.
And what do they call such a task? "The sacred duty that cannot be forsworn". Hmmm, where have we heard that before? The Grey Wardens.
Also, the Gangue Shade talks about the Stone bearing a corruption as old as balance. Now, it's really just referring to bad rocks rather then Darkspawn, but isn't it strange that the bad rocks form into a Demon?
There's more to my theories on the PT being the source of the Darkspawn, undoubtedly. But it requires a careful examination of Dwarven lore. And by careful, I mean "go mad from the revelation".
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 23 février 2013 - 03:19 .
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